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Sep 21, 2008, 11:36 PM
 Re: Nevada State College Originally Posted by NVplates2005  I originally posted the comment you're commenting on... here's the thing, if you check the NV state board of nursing website, it will state that in SOUTHERN NV, there are ONLY 2 schools that have FULL ACCREDITATION (nursing programs NATIONALLY recognized in the United States)... namely, UNLV and CSN !! ... OTHER schools are recognized AS teaching schools but their nursing programs are ONLY recognized in the STATE OF NV (this is what "provisional" means).... . . If you scroll down NV board of nursing page, it will say that, if you graduate from " NV provisional schools " and want to work out of state, you need to contact those states BEFORE you can assume you can work there and pay their fees to get THEIR licenses. If you read my previous comment again, I did mention that I had a friend who graduated from NSC, pass the NV nclex and she was able to work in TX. . . . I guess she called the TX board of nursing ahead of time and was TOLD she can "practice" there. "Provisional Accreditation" means just that -->> You are technically just licensed to practice in the state of NV. . . . "other states" don't need to hire you ---> for now, there are "other states" who will accept them, but who's to say that they will in 2 to 5 years?? . . . when their priority will be is, to hire people from their OWN states and from other states who graduated from "fully accredited schools".... shady economy is a good indicator of this.
I mean, there is a reason WHY the other schools around here are labeled "provisional accreditation" -->> their graduates can't make the 80% and up requirement on their NCLEX results to qualify for the "FULL accreditation" ..... it's NOT the same thing, it's not even close, there are people who are applying to these schools and thinking they can work anywhere, in reality, you have to CHECK first w/ other states, IF they'll EVEN recognize your license .. ..... kris.
you are 100% right kris... other states may accept provisonal license at this time and that can change at any time.. one day or month they may accept this license and the next day they would not.
it is very "iffy" and a day to day decision of the BON of the state you are applying.. i have heard.. that it depends on how many grads they have from the state you are applying , if they have enough and their is no shortage,, they will not accept provosional license...
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Sep 22, 2008, 03:20 PM
Re: Nevada State College
So far I haven't heard of any of the NSC grads being turned down for licensure by other states. Word like that travels quickly at the school. As for the provisional status I think they are taking some positive steps to be fully accredited. The BON came to visit us and basically said if NSC follows their recommendations for improvement then they will get their accreditation. The accelerated class is doing really well with pass rates it's just the regular track that was having problems and bringing the average down. I guess the decreased class size and harder gpa requirements are how they are addressing this. There was also some turnover of instructors so I'm sure that had something to do with the continuity of teaching.
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Sep 22, 2008, 05:54 PM
Re: Nevada State College Originally Posted by NVplates2005 I originally posted the comment you're commenting on... here's the thing, if you check the NV state board of nursing website, it will state that in SOUTHERN NV, there are ONLY 2 schools that have FULL ACCREDITATION (nursing programs NATIONALLY recognized in the United States)... namely, UNLV and CSN !! ... OTHER schools are recognized AS teaching schools but their nursing programs are ONLY recognized in the STATE OF NV (this is what "provisional" means).... . . If you scroll down NV board of nursing page, it will say that, if you graduate from " NV provisional schools " and want to work out of state, you need to contact those states BEFORE you can assume you can work there and pay their fees to get THEIR licenses. If you read my previous comment again, I did mention that I had a friend who graduated from NSC, pass the NV nclex and she was able to work in TX. . . . I guess she called the TX board of nursing ahead of time and was TOLD she can "practice" there. "Provisional Accreditation" means just that -->> You are technically just licensed to practice in the state of NV. . . . "other states" don't need to hire you ---> for now, there are "other states" who will accept them, but who's to say that they will in 2 to 5 years?? . . . when their priority will be is, to hire people from their OWN states and from other states who graduated from "fully accredited schools".... shady economy is a good indicator of this.
I mean, there is a reason WHY the other schools around here are labeled "provisional accreditation" -->> their graduates can't make the 80% and up requirement on their NCLEX results to qualify for the "FULL accreditation" ..... it's NOT the same thing, it's not even close, there are people who are applying to these schools and thinking they can work anywhere, in reality, you have to CHECK first w/ other states, IF they'll EVEN recognize your license .. ..... kris.
NSC does have national accredidation by CCNE (same as UNR) http://www.aacn.nche.edu/CCNE/report...ullName=Nevada
New schools go through growing pains to get their pass rates up. One big reason is because at first not many people knew about the program. They were admitting people that should have never been there in the first place because the pool of applicants wasn't large enough. Their pass rates as of now have increased dramatically as far as I know.
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Sep 22, 2008, 10:17 PM
Re: Nevada State College
[quote=lynzmaj;3127961]NSC does have national accredidation by CCNE (same as UNR) http://www.aacn.nche.edu/CCNE/report...ullName=Nevada
New schools go through growing pains to get their pass rates up. One big reason is because at first not many people knew about the program. They were admitting people To lynzmaj and other folks: I am not bashing "provisional accredited schools" at all, I think they're a good idea, since, they open up "options" for people. I certainly DID NOT come up with these "rules of accreditation"...... these "rules" have ALWAYS existed (even BEFORE I moved to NV). The NV state board of nursing has nothing to "hide" from anyone, if you just CHECK their website. . . "provisional accreditation is NOT the same as full". I commend CCNE and other organizations like it that try to monitor quality and prevent fraud in the nursing practice. Yes, it is a good organization that should continue it's mission and so forth. . . however, it is NOT a substitute for NV state board of Nursing and NLNAC (National League for Nursing Accreditation Commission). Meaning, a school can have 10 accreditations from OTHER organizations, but what really matters is the accreditation from the BOARD OF NURSING and I guess NLNAC?? Here's WHY: NV state board of nursing issues, decides and mandates the nursing profession in the state of NV. They pretty much have the POWER to close any NV nursing school (it hasn't happened yet), decides who's in and who's out. They are in charge of setting the tone for ALL practicing nurses in nevada. As far as they're concern, they're GOD, ok?? Just kidding!! . . . . . NV state board of nursing is the accreditation that ALL nursing schools in nevada needs (full or provisional)... IT pretty much TRUMPS ALL KINDS OF ACCREDITATION --->>> because it is WHERE all the "other states" board of nursing LOOK AT (you know, the people who decide whether to issue you, THEIR licenses??).... if you graduated from a school that has "provisional accreditation", they can refuse you THEIR license if they wanted to... even if you've been a "good citizen/boy or girl scout" with no convictions or terrorists connections. The mere FACT that you received your nursing education/clinical training from a "provisional accredited school" ONLY recognized in the state of NV. . . . is a GOOD enough reason to refuse you THEIR license. I find it INTERESTING that in the CCNE website you posted, IT ONLY has 3 or 4 schools accredited by CCNE, namely: NSC, Touro, UNR and UNLV (I think theirs starts in october?? --- I went to their website)...... what happened to the other NV nursing schools?? how come they're NOT on CCNE's list?? ---->> I guess they didn't think that CCNE's accreditation is "NOT important enough to be ON???" .... . . . like I said, NV state board of nursing, pretty much trumps all accreditation .... Kris. | | No. 26 |
Sep 25, 2008, 12:44 AM
Re: Nevada State College Originally Posted by NVplates2005 Hey pepperoni....
Yes, NSC only accepted around 20+ something people for the REGULAR PROGRAM for spring '08... anyone who had a GPA lower than 3.5 were given rejection letters.
In ANY case, it's getting TOUGHER every year, NSC does NOT have to fill up 40 spots for the regular program and 56 spots for the accelerated program, IN THE PAST, THEY HAD TO... now, it's a completely different ballgame . . . kris.
Yeah, I got my letter today, and I applied with a 3.21 (if the deadline had been a few weeks later, I would have gotten my second summer school grades in, and applied with a 3.31... dang!) but anyway, I didn't make it in, but I AM ranked #3 on the alternate list.
But I agree, it is getting tougher, I realized that today. Like I said about them accepting to a 3.2, and then I was denied, proves that they are getting tougher. That's not necessarily a bad thing for the school, I REALLY want them to have FULL accredidation by the time I graduate, so I can go anywhere! 
In the meantime, fingers crossed that 3 people deny admission between now and January 1...  | | No. 27 |
Sep 25, 2008, 12:47 AM
Re: Nevada State College
Also, I heard that NSC's NCLEX pass rates are up in the 80's for regular track now, and that they need something like 3 consecutive graduating classes to pass with 80% or higher to get their full accredidation. Something like that.
I really don't see them not fulfilling their accredidation requirements, there is too much on the line, don't you think? With the nursing shortage and state funding and all of that... I'll bet they get themselves together and pull through for full accredidation.
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