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No. 10
from pogi
Old Aug 13, 2008, 02:42 AM

Default Re: Nevada State College
Originally Posted by deefromlv View Post
Only a couple more weeks to go!!! I am so over school. I've heard the same thing from alot of recent grads who tested. They all say study Saunders for content and Kaplan for test taking strategies so that is what I'm doing too. Most say ATI, Hesi, and medspub are nothing like the actual NCLEX so I'm wondering why in the world we have to use them. I am hoping to test in the middle of september so I'll be able to give a first hand opinion then. I've heard alot of good things about USN from their recent grads. I had an opportunity to go there but I'm really poor so it was a state school for me.

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Good luck with everything, Dee! I read your pros and cons post and I have had similar experiences with my school, especially the ever-changing syllabus and structure. It is so frustrating having things switched up at the drop of a dime...totally throws me off. The professors always say, "Take it all in stride, nurses need to learn to be flexible!" Geez...
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No. 11
from deefromlv
Old Aug 13, 2008, 09:24 PM

Default Re: Nevada State College
Originally Posted by NVplates2005 View Post
Hey thanks for posting DeefrmLV!!! helpful insights, thanks for inside scoop ... have a few questions for u though:

Just this past spring '08, NSC only accepted 20+ something students for regular term, w/c they should've accepted about 40, is it? the cutoff GPA was 3.5 and above, plus the teas results of course... Anyone who has below 3.5 received rejection letters. I suspect they would be doing the same thing for future semesters... why? well, budget cuts frankly, but they wouldn't admit this. Anyway.....

I really don't know what's up with the regular track. I didn't know about the gpa or cut off. The accelerated track is like its own little world. Different instructors, different class times, different clinicals. Maybe the are making the requirements more stringent for the regular track because of the poor showing on NCLEX from that group. As for budget cuts I'm sure they will make some but I hear they are going ahead with the new nursing building so who knows?????

You said, NSC does not prepare students for the NCLEX. Well, since NSC has had "provisional accreditation" from the state FOR A WHILE NOW... aren't they in danger of possibly losing that accreditation? I'm sure no one stays provisional that long, there is a time frame... they need to get those scores UP... isn't NSC's best interest to "prepare" their students to do well on NCLEX? at least score 80% and above?? ---- Instead of risking NSC to have to close their nursing program by the state? ... doesn't NSC admin/ faculty KNOW this?

The BON actually came to talk to us about the licensure process recently and said NSC was not in danger of losing it's provisional status. They said basically all programs have "growing pains" and that NSC is no exception. We've had audits done of the curriculum by outside experts who reported recommendations back to the BON and as long as NSC continues to work towards correcting problems we won't lose BON approval. They also said there is no time frame and that they realize NSC may take longer than others to make full approval because of staff turnover, budgeting constraints, etc. It was a very positive meeting.

Oh, yes.. is there a new dean of the school of nursing? just curious... maybe the new dean would see the "light" ---->> instead of making all these ridiculous changes and being a LOT more picky w/ accepting their students... what they really NEED to DO IS, they need to emphasize REVIEWING their students more effectively so NSC can stay in business... after all, don't they have the new liberal arts bldg next to the dawson bldg now?

I agree that they need to spend more time with us in class reviewing NCLEX style questions. I think we can stand to lose one or two group projects to go over more questions.


You also said that the ATI books/reviewer are harder than the NCLEX... if that's the case, shouldn't the NCLEX be a breeze to NSC students? As far as I know, CSN, UNLV, NSC and other private schools take the same NCLEX, right? or there's different levels to it? I dunno.... thanks again for the inside scoop... goodluck on ur NCLEX. Do u plan to stay in NV or move to a different state?.... just wonderin.
It's not always effective to study just one review source even if its harder. I know alot of students complained that the ATI questions didn't accurately reflect the type and difficulty level of the NCLEX. We all take the same test. And the ATI focuses on content only, no test taking strategy. Many of those I've asked said you need both. So even if you pass the ATI exams, because they are not reflective of what the NCLEX really asks, you still can fail the actual test. And yes, I plan to stay in Nevada for awhile.


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No. 12
from deefromlv
Old Aug 13, 2008, 09:31 PM

Default Re: Nevada State College
Originally Posted by NVplates2005 View Post
By the way, Deefromlv..... NSC is provisional and technically, u can only practice in nevada. But, there are OTHER states that'll allow u to practice there, are u interested in that? ..... 'coz I've heard that around vegas, hospitals here r not very friendly to new grads, I'm not sure up northern nevada though, since I don't know anyone from there. Maybe they're friendly to "new nurses"??? ..... A friend of mine graduated last year from NSC and she was able to work in TX. She took the nclex here, passed it, got a NV license and was able to get a license in TX (after filling out all the paperwork & paying the fees, of course).
Really? I've found that the hospitals I've been at have been pretty good with new grads. Sometimes you have to wait until they start a new grad orientation program but other places will start you right away. I've had one offer already. The critical care job I am interviewing for right after I graduate is the one I really want. I didn't really look hard. Both came out of my clinical experiences. And so far I haven't heard of any of the NSC grads having trouble getting licensure in other states. Many of my classmates are from California and will be heading back there. A previous grad was even accepted to Duke U NP program and is practicing there while going to school.

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No. 13
from deefromlv
Old Aug 13, 2008, 09:39 PM

Default Re: Nevada State College
Originally Posted by pogi View Post
Good luck with everything, Dee! I read your pros and cons post and I have had similar experiences with my school, especially the ever-changing syllabus and structure. It is so frustrating having things switched up at the drop of a dime...totally throws me off. The professors always say, "Take it all in stride, nurses need to learn to be flexible!" Geez...
I love that! It sounds like your instructors and my instructors got together over a beer and said "OK, what do we say to them to justify our complete lack of planning?" Oh, well, it's almost over! Glad to hear that other programs share some of the same pains.

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No. 14
from pepperoni
Old Sep 18, 2008, 06:12 PM

Default Re: Nevada State College
Originally Posted by NVplates2005 View Post
Just this past spring '08, NSC only accepted 20+ something students for regular term, w/c they should've accepted about 40, is it? the cutoff GPA was 3.5 and above, plus the teas results of course... Anyone who has below 3.5 received rejection letters. I suspect they would be doing the same thing for future semesters... why? well, budget cuts frankly, but they wouldn't admit this. Anyway.....
There are so many different things floating around about this!

I keep hearing that the last semester, they accepted about 20 people, and the lowest GPA was a 3.2. The advisor said they chose not to accept 40 students because a few semesters back, they were accepting all the way to a 3.0, and like half of the students had failed out of the program!! So this past semester they only went to a 3.2 and only 1 person failed out that semester. Makes sense to me...
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No. 15
from NVhike
Old Sep 20, 2008, 01:25 AM
Updated Sep 20, 2008 at 02:00 AM by NVhike

Default Re: Nevada State College
Originally Posted by pepperoni View Post
There are so many different things floating around about this!

I keep hearing that the last semester, they accepted about 20 people, and the lowest GPA was a 3.2. The advisor said they chose not to accept 40 students because a few semesters back, they were accepting all the way to a 3.0, and like half of the students had failed out of the program!! So this past semester they only went to a 3.2 and only 1 person failed out that semester. Makes sense to me...
Hey pepperoni....

Yes, NSC only accepted around 20+ something people for the REGULAR PROGRAM for spring '08... anyone who had a GPA lower than 3.5 were given rejection letters. The TEAS results were only used as a tie breaker between people who have the same GPA's (I'm not quite sure how that works). The selection process is generally as follows: The 3.2 GPA you're talking about ONLY applies to the ACCELERATED program... meaning if you have that GPA, you have a chance for the accelerated program BUT NOT the regular program (since they HAVE MORE applicants to it, NSC REQUIRES A HIGHER GPA) . . . I know this for a fact, 'coz I had around 3.2 last year and the NSC advisor TOLD me that I needed to upgrade my GPA near or around 3.5 at least!. . . . Think of it this way, if you qualify to apply to both, if you have less than 3.5 and more towards a 3.0 GPA ... then JUST APPLY for the accelerated. . . they wouldn't even look @ your application for the regular program, I guess for some people that makes sense or not? ----->> In ANY case, it's getting TOUGHER every year, NSC does NOT have to fill up 40 spots for the regular program and 56 spots for the accelerated program, IN THE PAST, THEY HAD TO... now, it's a completely different ballgame . . . kris.
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No. 16
from lynzmaj
Old Sep 21, 2008, 03:32 PM

Default Re: Nevada State College
Originally Posted by NVplates2005 View Post
By the way, Deefromlv..... NSC is provisional and technically, u can only practice in nevada. But, there are OTHER states that'll allow u to practice there, are u interested in that? ..... 'coz I've heard that around vegas, hospitals here r not very friendly to new grads, I'm not sure up northern nevada though, since I don't know anyone from there. Maybe they're friendly to "new nurses"??? ..... A friend of mine graduated last year from NSC and she was able to work in TX. She took the nclex here, passed it, got a NV license and was able to get a license in TX (after filling out all the paperwork & paying the fees, of course).

That is not true. I graduated from NSC last year and I work in TX. I did not get my license in NV first- I applied in TX. Rumors are just that...rumors.
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No. 17
from pogi
Old Sep 21, 2008, 03:51 PM

Default Re: Nevada State College
Originally Posted by lynzmaj View Post
That is not true. I graduated from NSC last year and I work in TX. I did not get my license in NV first- I applied in TX. Rumors are just that...rumors.

lynzmaj is right. Many of my classmates are going back to work in their home states after graduation. When a school is not accredited, it restricts you from pursuing a graduate degree, not from working in other states.
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No. 18
from NVhike
Old Sep 21, 2008, 04:59 PM
Updated Sep 21, 2008 at 05:13 PM by NVhike

Default Re: Nevada State College
Originally Posted by lynzmaj View Post
That is not true. I graduated from NSC last year and I work in TX. I did not get my license in NV first- I applied in TX. Rumors are just that...rumors.
I originally posted the comment you're commenting on... here's the thing, if you check the NV state board of nursing website, it will state that in SOUTHERN NV, there are ONLY 2 schools that have FULL ACCREDITATION (nursing programs NATIONALLY recognized in the United States)... namely, UNLV and CSN !! ... OTHER schools are recognized AS teaching schools but their nursing programs are ONLY recognized in the STATE OF NV (this is what "provisional" means).... . . If you scroll down NV board of nursing page, it will say that, if you graduate from " NV provisional schools " and want to work out of state, you need to contact those states BEFORE you can assume you can work there and pay their fees to get THEIR licenses. If you read my previous comment again, I did mention that I had a friend who graduated from NSC, pass the NV nclex and she was able to work in TX. . . . I guess she called the TX board of nursing ahead of time and was TOLD she can "practice" there. "Provisional Accreditation" means just that -->> You are technically just licensed to practice in the state of NV. . . . "other states" don't need to hire you ---> for now, there are "other states" who will accept them, but who's to say that they will in 2 to 5 years?? . . . when their priority will be is, to hire people from their OWN states and from other states who graduated from "fully accredited schools".... shady economy is a good indicator of this.

I mean, there is a reason WHY the other schools around here are labeled "provisional accreditation" -->> their graduates can't make the 80% and up requirement on their NCLEX results to qualify for the "FULL accreditation" ..... it's NOT the same thing, it's not even close, there are people who are applying to these schools and thinking they can work anywhere, in reality, you have to CHECK first w/ other states, IF they'll EVEN recognize your license .. ..... kris.











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No. 19
from NVhike
Old Sep 21, 2008, 06:40 PM

Default Re: Nevada State College
Originally Posted by lynzmaj View Post
That is not true. I graduated from NSC last year and I work in TX. I did not get my license in NV first- I applied in TX. Rumors are just that...rumors.

Maybe, what I should have said is this. . . . WILL OTHER states even recognize the school where one went to and the clinical training they received from these "provisional accredited schools"?? ... 'coz that's the bottom line isn't it??

"Provisional accreditation" just irks some people off. For now, there are states who hire people who graduate from them (I also hope it stays that way, believe me).... kris.










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