Abusing staff nurses to do "presentation"-- can they do this to us?! - page 2

by 3rdwing 9,279 Views | 14 Comments

Hi all! I work on a 12 hr. dayshift neuro floor as staff nurse in a fast paced large acute hospital. Lately we have more critical patients with less staff- everyone agree? I am so stressed with patient care and being charge... Read More


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    A huge part of learning is that the environment has to be a conducive one! How can trying to squeeze a 45 min class in the middle of a busy work day be a good environment to do so. There are so many other ways to get the information out without disrupting all the floor nurses routines and patient care. We just have the educators hand out learning modules ..you read and take a small test and sign that you read it..easy! You all need to express your concerns about this but come up with several viable alternatives. That way you will be seen as willing to learn and grow professionally but you want it to be done in a way that works for you. You will not be seen as whining if you stay on topic and do not get into no breaks and other complaints..STAY ON THE TOPIC. You can also suggest A TRAIL PERIOD as I find people are more open to change if it starts out as a trial.
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    This is a topic for staff meeting where professionally you say...Thank you for recognizing the value of education. I appreciate your interest to keep us all well educated. I'd like to continue learning however I am concerned pt are suffering because of .. (be specific
    with example.

    You sound frustrated. I understand. This is not a legal issue. Your on the wrong track. Don't allow frustration to speak for you. If you want change you will need to put your emotions aside and constructively seek it. Consider compromise,plan for it. Would a monthly presentation be do able?

    I actually think you are lucky that your manager supports on going education. I do however get the frustrations too that it incurs. Meet the manager half way.
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    Thank you fellow floor nurses/nonfloor RNs for your comments. I am glad we have this site to post situations and read them. Will try to work with the management on this although sometimes like going upstream without a paddle...
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    Quote from echoRNC711
    This is a topic for staff meeting where professionally you say...Thank you for recognizing the value of education. I appreciate your interest to keep us all well educated. I'd like to continue learning however I am concerned pt are suffering because of .. (be specific
    with example.

    You sound frustrated. I understand. This is not a legal issue. Your on the wrong track. Don't allow frustration to speak for you. If you want change you will need to put your emotions aside and constructively seek it. Consider compromise,plan for it. Would a monthly presentation be do able?

    I actually think you are lucky that your manager supports on going education. I do however get the frustrations too that it incurs. Meet the manager half way.


    EchoRNC711 is absolutely correct. Education is a great thing! By making our staff nurses do presentations, we are advancing our knowledge and our profession. It is incredibly difficult to do this when you have so little time. But, take it easy. Slow down and think about a possible solution before you say/do something you regret out of anger. And do not use the recording or videotape. It's not really that professional and it's halfa**ed. Professionals stand up in front of their colleagues every day. I also agree that monthly sounds like a much better idea. Weekly for an intern/resident or attending makes sense. A staff nurse though? Monthly or twice a month makes more sense. Also, it sounds like the main issue is staffing. If you manager wants you to do the presentation and also does not want to hire more nurses and you are continually upset..... get a new job.
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    Quote from 3rdwing
    Hi all!

    I work on a 12 hr. dayshift neuro floor as staff nurse in a fast paced large acute hospital. Lately we have more critical patients with less staff- everyone agree? I am so stressed with patient care and being charge nurse that I can't eat or use the bathroom at all- sound familiar?

    Ok, get this, the floor manager practically forces us to do 45 mins. presentation on the brain every week DURING OUR WORK HOURS. Has anyone ever heard of such a thing? I am against this as this is burdening the team, I already leave late from all that charting. We were told we were outstanding nurses per manager, ha! We still refused but she keeps coming up to the floor to HARASS us why we can't do it, relentless. It's obvious, but they turn a blind eye. The admin. wants someone to do it. We have a nurse educator... We already teach pt and families before discharge.

    DO I have a legal say? ANY SUGGESTIONS OR OPTIONS WELCOME. I WILL CHECK THIS POST OFTEN. Thanks!
    Abuse? You're really reaching for that one.

    Giving presentations during work hours is a part of the job these days, especially in large teaching hospitals with many specialized units. Preparing the presentation in your off hours is generally also an expectation.

    You do have a say in this issue. If you feel that strongly about it, resign. Otherwise, prepare yourself a presentation.


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