Quote from ashley2009
I graduated in May 2012 from an LVN program. I did very well in Clinicals but on test, i ranged from C's and D's. Some B's. My test date is Thursday and i been studying every day, making sure im not over studying also. I have taken several ATI tests and im getting 63%-70%. Its really discouraging. I'm also studying from the Saunders Book and doing flash cards. Since I'm doing bad on ATI test, will I do bad on NCLEX?
I don't understand the problem. How are you doing so 'poorly', in your opinion?
For the quizzes, 60% denotes 'content mastery'. Coach might have you take more tests and assign some homework, but you'll move on to other modules.
ATI demands a 95% chance of passing for the 'greenlight'.
My school? We had to have a 90% chance of passing...and that's about a 60% on the Predictor, I think.
If you're getting 63-70% on your tests, it still represents a high pass-rate percentage.
From my ATI page: Criterion-Referenced Measure Probability of Passing NCLEX-PNŽ:
The following expectancy table was developed by
comparing PN Comprehensive PredictorŽ scores
to NCLEX-PNŽ performance for a sample of PN
students. As can be seen from the table, higher
Predictor scores tend to indicate a higher
probability of passing the NCLEX-PNŽ. However,
students should use caution when interpreting
the table because numerous factors can influence
performance on both the Predictor and the
For example, note that a student with a score of
57.3% correct would be expected to have a 90%
chance of passing the NCLEX-PNŽ on the first
attempt. Although this is a high probability of success,
it is not a guarantee. For every 100 students with this
score, 90 are predicted to pass and 10 are predicted
to fail. PN Comprehensive PredictorŽ VATI Individual Score
Predicted Probability of Passing the NCLEX-PNŽ 74.0% - 100.0% 95%
66.7% - 73.3% 94%
62.7% - 66.0% 93%
58.0% - 62.0% 91% - 92%
54.7% - 57.3%
89% - 90%
50.0% - 54.0% 85% - 88%
44.7% - 49.3% 79% - 84%
38.0% - 44.0% 65% - 77%
30.0% - 37.3% 41% - 62%
20.7% - 29.3% 11% - 38%
0.0% - 20.0% <10%
I found the NCLEX to be way less comprehensive than ATI. Everything was dialed back. Even the SATA, though there were a lot of them on my exam, weren't that bad. Actually, I'll be even more honest -- and I usually don't like saying it like this b/c so many people on this board seem to have such difficult with that exam, BUT: I thought NCLEX was easy. There, I said it. LOL
There was a degree of difficulty, but I - a wee little black woman of average intelligence - thought it 'easy'.
I knew that I'd passed halfway through the exam and when I walked out of there.
...and that's something else to consider.
Wouldn't you rather that your test prep be harder than the actual exam?
Either way, there are no guarantees which is great for those who need to improve.
The only thing that ATI does is test knowledge content, application and comprehension.
Either you know it or you don't.
Yet, 'comprehension' is a something that can be improved. Nothing's set in stone.
So, you're not cranking out 80's and 90's on your quizzes? So what?
You can do poorly on ATI, but you can STUDY and still pass NCLEX.
Conversely, you can do excellent on ATI. Take a break. Schedule the exam 4 months later. Not review and bomb it.
...like a certain valedictorian that I know, exactly 3 cohorts ahead of mine, who shall remain forever nameless. It happens like that, I'm telling you.
The valedictorian failed NCLEX. How embarrassing...and not because she 'failed'. Rather, because it really made no sense for her TO fail.
How can you forget it, I wonder? NCLEX questions are pretty basic. It truly is just ensuring that the nurse has enough competancy to not kill anyone.
So, someone who pulls A's out of their butt for every test from Fundamentals to Pharm to Leadership should retain enough info to pass NCLEX, the first time.
Oh, yeah - I'm judging it! LOL Make no mistake about it.
Like a year's worth of schooling just leaks out of your brain? Maybe GVNs/GN's should start packing their ears with cotton and duct-tape their ears before they go to sleep at night.
How can you forget? It's not like you stop studying once you land yourself a job. Heck, I STILL research and study things. Every night.
When you apply for jobs - with staffing and homehealth, especially - you still have to take competancy tests. It's not like some of these employers are going to take your word for it.
"Oh, yeah...I graduated with a 4.0 on a 4.0 scale..."
"Uh, yeah...here. Can you prove it?" LOL
I've an interview tomorrow (why am I still up on ALLNURSES? LOL) and I had to take 4 tests (with time limits) for those people.
- HIPAA. 15 questions
- Infection Control. 15 questions
- Nursing Comprehensive. 50 questions.
- LVN test. 30 questions.
For another job that I wanted but didn't get, I had to take a dos cal/pharm test and a matching Pharm exam. 'Match the disorder with the med that treats it'.
Like, 20 questions a piece. The math was simple, though. 'Desired/Have'. It's not like I was calculating gtt rates.