NCLEX pass rates for your school? - page 2

I went to an information seminar on the Nursing Program at my school and the information was something.....scary,lol. The NCLEX pass rate for the program I am applying for is 97.8 %!! It's higher than the state average and even... Read More

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    Southeastern Louisiana University NCLEX-RN: 94.6% :hatparty:
    LA state avr. passing rate:89.6%
    National average: 87.8%

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    Quote from Nemhain
    Attrition rate also needs to be taken into consideration when looking at a school's pass rate!

    What if school "A" has a 90% pass rate and admits 100 people, but only 4 fail out? …so that means 86 people passed the first time. Then school "B" also has a 95% pass rate, admits 100 people but 50 fail out leaving about 47 people to pass the NCLEX on the first time. So, your odds of graduating and passing the NCLEX on the first try are much better a school "A"…. got it? Attrition rate is something so many people overlook.

    There are a few schools in my area here are their statistics for the past year:
    "graduated" is the number of people originally enrolled in the program... does not include LPN's who joined, transfers, or people who were readmitted.

    School 1: admitted: 56 graduated: 28 pass rate was: 89%
    School 2: admitted: 72 graduated: 59 pass rate was: 86%
    School 3: admitted: 36 graduated: 17 pass rate was: 92%
    School 4: admitted: 120 graduated: 97 pass rate was: 84%

    I wouldn't want to go to school number 3. People could be failing out because of poor instruction and not the difficulty of the material.

    just something to think about.
    :yeahthat:
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    In 2004, Univ. of Memphis had 100% pass rate. Not sure what 2005 was. I'm glad the rate is so high--that means the program will be challenging and I'll learn a lot. Bring it on!.
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    My school has a 92% pass rate.
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    Mercy College of Northwest Ohio BSN's: 100% *the highest in the area*
    ADN's: 98%
    Ohio's Avg: 88.87%
    National Avg: 85.26%
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    St Vincents in Connecticut is 86%
    Last edit by NaomieRN on Nov 9, '07
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    Quote from Nemhain
    Attrition rate also needs to be taken into consideration when looking at a school's pass rate!

    What if school "A" has a 90% pass rate and admits 100 people, but only 4 fail out? …so that means 86 people passed the first time. Then school "B" also has a 95% pass rate, admits 100 people but 50 fail out leaving about 47 people to pass the NCLEX on the first time. So, your odds of graduating and passing the NCLEX on the first try are much better a school "A"…. got it? Attrition rate is something so many people overlook.

    There are a few schools in my area here are their statistics for the past year:
    "graduated" is the number of people originally enrolled in the program... does not include LPN's who joined, transfers, or people who were readmitted.

    School 1: admitted: 56 graduated: 28 pass rate was: 89%
    School 2: admitted: 72 graduated: 59 pass rate was: 86%
    School 3: admitted: 36 graduated: 17 pass rate was: 92%
    School 4: admitted: 120 graduated: 97 pass rate was: 84%

    I wouldn't want to go to school number 3. People could be failing out because of poor instruction and not the difficulty of the material.

    just something to think about.
    Excellent point. Generally, first-time NCLEX passage scores and student retention rates are inversely proportional. In other words, the higher the NCLEX scores, the lower the retention rate. Often, the higher the NCLEX scores, the greater the attrition. The "weaker" students are not being retained. Some programs may boast a 100% passage rate but only graduate 50% (or less!) of the original freshmen class. The school may have an underlying "boot-camp" philosophy and may be aggressively "weeding out" the poorer-performing students to safeguard the school's "high" NCLEX passage reputation.

    IMHO, a "healthy" NCLEX passage rate is 85-92%. This means most students are passing the NCLEX on the first try, but the school is also making a reasonable effort to retain the poorer-performing students.
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    Quote from VickyRN
    Excellent point. Generally, first-time NCLEX passage scores and student retention rates are inversely proportional. In other words, the higher the NCLEX scores, the lower the retention rate. Often, the higher the NCLEX scores, the greater the attrition. The "weaker" students are not being retained. Some programs may boast a 100% passage rate but only graduate 50% (or less!) of the original freshmen class. The school may have an underlying "boot-camp" philosophy and may be aggressively "weeding out" the poorer-performing students to safeguard the school's "high" NCLEX passage reputation.

    IMHO, a "healthy" NCLEX passage rate is 85-92%. This means most students are passing the NCLEX on the first try, but the school is also making a reasonable effort to retain the poorer-performing students.
    Thanks Vicky. How about this?... I would also like to see an additional score for a school based on the NCLEX pass rate and the school's attrition rate; let's call it the 'Attrition Factor'!!! Schools would have a base score of their NCLEX plus or minus a certain amount based on their attrition rate. But this wouldn't replace the NCLEX score... it would just be another statistic to for prospective students to consider.

    For example:
    School A and B both have an NCLEX score of 90% School A admitted 72 people in their program and 50 graduated. School B admitted 56 people and 50 graduated. Each school could be docked .25 points on the NCLEX for each percent of the attrition rate (let's call this the 'attrition grade'). So school A, which has about a 30% attrition rate would have an Attrition Factor of 82.5 I got that from .25 X 30= 7.5 90-7.5= 82.5. School B has an attrition rate of about 11% so that means that (.25 X 11 = 2.75) so their 90% NCLEX rate minus the attrition grade (2.75) comes to an Attrition Factor of 87.25.
    Let's all go to school B!

    So...should I keep on dreaming or patent this thing? :chuckle

    Did anyone even understand this? Can you tell Statistics was my favorite class? Good Grief! I need to find better things to do....
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    Earlier this year I received some information from my state board of nursing (who doesn't have anything to gain from a given school's NCLEX scores). It showed just the NUMBER of those taking the NCLEX for the first time, not those who had entered with the freshman class. That's what I thought it was, at least.

    It did show the school that I got my bachelor's (in another medical field) had a first time NCLEX pass rate of 53.3%. They said that 15 graduated from the class, 15 took the NCLEX in 2004. This is a private school and they have an open nursing program (you don't have to apply) but they have various tests you must take and PASS to be retained. If this was the case, that would explain the 53%.

    I'm a little confused about the wording on this paper that I had received. I'll have to check it out later and examine the wording carefully on it.
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    Regis College had a 90% pass rate last year. 18 out of 20 people passed. I had heard it was worse so I am a little relieved!


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