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No. 60
from alitory
Old May 10, 2005, 03:36 PM

Default Ati
I also took the ATI, yes it is an indicator of how well you will do on boards, I took my RN ATI, and have a 94-97% chance of passing boards. After you take the ATI you will be given a print out that shows the areas that you were strong and weak in and it even tell you areas to work on. It is hard but i feel it really prepared me for LPN boards! We will see how i do i take Rn boards tomorrow morning!! Good luck to you
Alison
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No. 61
from JaimeeG
Old May 11, 2005, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by sr moore
Our school in California, uses the ATI tests. A lot of the other schools are using them now also. Does anyone know about theses? Are they a predictor for passing the NCLEX?
I did the ATI at my school also. Our instructors said it was a very good, accurate indicator of how well you will do on the NCLEX. When you get the printout at the end, it is quite surprising to see the numbers! If you get anything over a 70% on the ATI, you have a 99% predicted probability of passing the NCLEX. I got an 83.5 on the ATI so I went into the NCLEX feeling pretty good. Let's hope my feelings are right when I finally get my results!!! :hatparty:

Jaimee
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No. 62
from JaimeeG
Old May 12, 2005, 11:01 PM

Default I don't get it...
Okay..someone help me out here.

I am having a hard time understanding how one can fail the NCLEX with only 60 questions (75 minus the 15 pilot questions). What is the point of having 265 questions if you can fail in 60?? I hope my question is making sense here.

It just doesn't compute in my overworked brain how one could possibly fail after the lowest number of questions. I know that the computer chooses questions based on your answers and then readjusts the level, etc. But that still doesn't help me understand.

Anyone have a good explanation? I am thinking that one would have to miss nearly all the questions to fail in 60.

Jaimee
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No. 63
Old May 12, 2005, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by JaimeeG
Okay..someone help me out here.

I am having a hard time understanding how one can fail the NCLEX with only 60 questions (75 minus the 15 pilot questions). What is the point of having 265 questions if you can fail in 60?? I hope my question is making sense here.

It just doesn't compute in my overworked brain how one could possibly fail after the lowest number of questions. I know that the computer chooses questions based on your answers and then readjusts the level, etc. But that still doesn't help me understand.

Anyone have a good explanation? I am thinking that one would have to miss nearly all the questions to fail in 60.

Jaimee
I think it means that you blew the test so badly that even if you were presented with the full 265 you still couldn't pull of a pass...
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No. 64
from JaimeeG
Old May 12, 2005, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by cardiacRN2006
I think it means that you blew the test so badly that even if you were presented with the full 265 you still couldn't pull of a pass...
That would pretty much suck I guess

I think I need to fly to Hawaii and stay there until someone notifies me that my test results are available. We got REALLY spoiled in school by having our test scores up before the end of the day that we took the test. This waiting game is the pits!!

Jaimee
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No. 65
Old May 12, 2005, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by JaimeeG
That would pretty much suck I guess

I think I need to fly to Hawaii and stay there until someone notifies me that my test results are available. We got REALLY spoiled in school by having our test scores up before the end of the day that we took the test. This waiting game is the pits!!

Jaimee
How long does it usually take???????
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No. 66
Old May 13, 2005, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by cjmmsn98
Hope you all do not mind- I teach a NCLEX coaching course at the BSN level, and felt like I wanted to tell you about the # of questions you get and what that actually means.

The NCLEX adapts to your skill level. The first questions that are presented to you are determining your ability level. Once your ability level is determined, the questions are presented in increasing level of difficulty/decreasing difficulty until you have answered enough questions for the computer to determine (with 95% statistical certainty) that you have met the passing standard.

The minimum number of questions you will have is 75 (60 questions plus 15 pilot items). You will not be able to distibguish pilot items from "real" items. SO, if you get 265 items, that means the computer has not yet determined that you have met the passing standard at the 95% confidence level. There is no random number of candidates that get the exam with 265- that is a myth.

The test is now 6 hours long, and you should take your time. Rushingthrough the questions will most likely lead to failure, because each one you get wrong due to guessing means the next question is easier, and then on and on, until you fail because you are guessing at them all. Take your time to think each question through and choose the best answer.

If you visit http://wwww.ncsbn.org you will find the explanation of CAT and scoring.

NCLEX is given throughout the US and its territoiries, so the same format is used and the same question bank is used across the US.

ANd I have a question for those of you that have recently taken the NCLEX-
about how many alternate format items did you get, and what type were they? Please email me privately, and thanks!

Catherine M., MS, RN, NCSN,AE-C
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No. 67
from JaimeeG
Old May 13, 2005, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by cardiacRN2006
How long does it usually take???????
The transcripts to be sent? The records department at our school said it could be up to 10 weeks. They are now only open Monday through Thursday for summer. It would be nice if I could comprehend why this is such a huge undertaking, but nobody in the records office can explain. There were only 48 of us who graduated, the final grades were submitted by the nursing dept. to records on May 23rd, and everything is computerized.

I hope that is what you were asking about!

Jaimee
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No. 68
from LPN,RNNow
Old May 13, 2005, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by JaimeeG
I did the ATI at my school also. Our instructors said it was a very good, accurate indicator of how well you will do on the NCLEX. When you get the printout at the end, it is quite surprising to see the numbers! If you get anything over a 70% on the ATI, you have a 99% predicted probability of passing the NCLEX. I got an 83.5 on the ATI so I went into the NCLEX feeling pretty good. Let's hope my feelings are right when I finally get my results!!! :hatparty:

Jaimee

We use ATI as well. And I was wondering the same thing. So your instructors say that about the 70%? We really haven't been given too much information about it. It is just this PIA test we have to take with each section. Nobody likes taking them at our school and it is usually really disorganized. So by the time you actually get everyone seated at a computer you are so stressed when you begin you can't see straight anyway, let alone take a test.
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No. 69
from JaimeeG
Old May 13, 2005, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by RN2BLPN4NOW
We use ATI as well. And I was wondering the same thing. So your instructors say that about the 70%? We really haven't been given too much information about it. It is just this PIA test we have to take with each section. Nobody likes taking them at our school and it is usually really disorganized. So by the time you actually get everyone seated at a computer you are so stressed when you begin you can't see straight anyway, let alone take a test.
The 70% thing came from the ATI printout that you get at the end of the test. They give you a personalized printout that shows where you placed with regard to all others who have taken the test. It also shows your predicted probability of passing, which is where the 70% came from.

I thought the ATI that I took was MUCH easier than the NCLEX.

Jaimee
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