I need help with delegation
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by itsdebraanne Jan 25
Above is a list i put together to help me understand what an RN, an LPN/LVN, and a UAP/CNA can do.
I've been pretty good with delegation so far.
Now I'm starting to see different kinds of RNs and LPNs and it's throwing me off.
I know that RNs floating from another unit are treated like LPNs. And I know that if gender is specified, that means there is a patient who has gender preferences.
But how do I, as the charge nurse, go about delegating tasks to:
- experienced RNs
- experienced LPNs
- experienced nursing assistants
- nursing students
- and an LPN/LVN who is fuctioning under the supervision of an RN
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Jan 25 by NurseGuyBriDelegation is tricky because it requires you, the charge nurse, to be able to safely and accurately assess the staff member that a patient is delegated to. When answering questions on a test, it's a bit more tricky because your information is limited. Attempt to isolate what the question is really asking- i.e. what is the task being delegated. Once you know that, you can proceed with determining who gets the job. Anything that has a patient that might crash or have an abrupt change in condition needs the RN. If the patient requires monitoring or a focused assessment requires at least an experienced LPN, float or new RN. If the patient has expected outcomes an LPN or new/float RN is ok as well. If there is a simple procedure that doesnt involve assessment, a CNA or UAP is ok. If the patient is immediate post op, RN... If >24hr postop, new RN or float OK.Danielle318 and itsdebraanne like this. -
Jan 25 by itsnoworneverIf its NCLEX that's asking ignore the "experienced" if it's RN vs LVN, the RN gets it if its complicated or can crash.
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itsdebraanne likes this. - Jan 26 by itsdebraanneQuote from NurseGuyBrione of the best explanation all day! thank youuu!!!!!Anything that has a patient that might crash or have an abrupt change in condition needs the RN.
If the patient requires monitoring or a focused assessment requires at least an experienced LPN, float or new RN.
If the patient has expected outcomes an LPN or new/float RN is ok as well.
If there is a simple procedure that doesnt involve assessment, a CNA or UAP is ok.
If the patient is immediate post op, RN...
If >24hr postop, new RN or float OK.
oh question, when the patient might have an "abrupt change in condition," knowing this change might happen is an EXPECTED outcome, but if you didn't see it coming then that's an UNEXPECTED outcome. right? - Jan 26 by itsnoworneverQuote from itsdebraanneIf they are going to have an abrupt change its am unstable pt. look at it that way instead, much easier
one of the best explanation all day! thank youuu!!!!!
oh question, when the patient might have an "abrupt change in condition," knowing this change might happen is an EXPECTED outcome, but if you didn't see it coming then that's an UNEXPECTED outcome. right?
Posting from my phone, ease forgive my fat thumbs! - Jan 26 by itsdebraanneQuote from itsnoworneverokay. thank youIf they are going to have an abrupt change its am unstable pt. look at it that way instead, much easier
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- Jan 30 by itsnoworneverQuote from itsdebraanneDepends, you working there, at clinical or volunteering? All have different tasksWhat can nursing students do?
Posting from my phone, ease forgive my fat thumbs! - Jan 30 by itsdebraanneQuote from itsnoworneverSorry, i mean nursing students in the NCLEX world. what can they do?Depends, you working there, at clinical or volunteering? All have different tasks
Posting from my phone, ease forgive my fat thumbs! - Jan 31 by itsnoworneverQuote from itsnoworneverNCLEX never asked me about students, only LVNs and CNAs (UAP)
Depends, you working there, at clinical or volunteering? All have different tasks
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