Palm Pilots - page 10

Hello! I'm a second year BScN student at McMaster University in Ontario Canada. I'm looking to purchase a palm pilot and a program that can provide me with a quick reference guide for meds and lab... Read More

  1. by   hoppermom3
    Well, I finally did it! I have been wanting a PDA for a long time, but carefully controlled the impulse to buy one. After reading all this thread, I decided that today must be the day. DH was wanting me to look into something simple for him anyway to keep track of his contacts on. So, I ordered him a Palm Zire 21. Then, I ordered myself a Palm m515. I really agonized between the m515 and the Tungsten E. I hope I made the right decision.
  2. by   MickyB-RN
    Then, I ordered myself a Palm m515. I really agonized between the m515 and the Tungsten E. I hope I made the right decision.>>

    Let me know how you like it. I'm still trying to decide on what kind myself.



    Kelly
  3. by   moliuchick
    Quote from chrn
    Dionysus;
    PDA's are absolutely great for keeping all kinds of reference material, that is compact, mobile and up to date. Right now, that is what they do best.
    You can use them for "personal organizers"- date book, addresses, even sync your email. Mine syncs to my Outlook mail program at work.
    As far as other uses (replacing scrap paper and index cards), depends...
    You can get little programs that do calculations (IV rates, kinectics, BMI, etc.).
    When it comes to documenting patient assessments, there is a lot of potential just beginning to be tapped. It is VERY easy to create forms to input information into handhelds. There are very simple database programs that anyone can use to create forms. I believe DataViz is a popular one.
    Problem is synchronizing with the hospital or office information system. That is the only way programs like that are really useful- if you can "download" patient demographics, then "upload" your assessment.
    Some innovative nurses have created forms to collect data, then print it out. Will depend if your hospital would allow that.
    PDA's have infrared ports -IR. These can be used to "beam" information to another IR. You can beam your address, even whole programs (if shareware). Really cool is that you can beam a form you have created to an IR-enabled printer. I have done this. Useful application will be providers writing scripts, pointing to the printer and "da da!" - a nice, legible script. Or a nurse collects vitals and assessment data, point to the printer and "da da" -my nurses notes.
    www.stevenscreek.com for a free download of PrintBoy (?I think) for anyone who wants to try it. You do not need to do anything with the printer, as long as it has an IR port.
    Many people believe that IR communcations will be as popular as local networks. After all, your remote control has been using it for a long time.
    One last thing: color vs b/w (monochrome). Your right- invest in color if possible, especially for older eyes. Color uses more battery life. Most newer units have cadmium rechargeable power.
    Sorry so long, hope this helps
    Cindy
    :hatparty: Hey there, I wonder if you can answer some of my questions about PDA.
    I am a 2nd year student and I want to get one for my clinical.
    1. What kind of Palm do you have?
    2. If I want to create a form for my nursing assessment and nursing plan like how my instructors want me to, do you think that I can download the "DataViz"(like you mentioned) and it will help me to create the same form that my instructor wants on my palm?
    3. About the printing function. Do I need to download "Printboy" in order to print stuff from my palm remotely?
    4. What is a descent memory that i should get if I am going to load 4 softwares to the Palm?
    I am considering buying a Sony Clie. But not sure if there are other good ones out there. Do you think I should get a foldable keyboard as well?
    I have never own a Palm, so any infor that you can give me will be appreciated.
    Thanks.
  4. by   Riceburner
    Hello everyone, This is my very first post here in Allnurses.com --what an awesome site!!! I've gotta say that this thread on Palm Pilots has helped me add more freewares in my Clie as well! Thanks to all that have listed sites to download free programs! Take care!
    Last edit by Riceburner on Mar 13, '04
  5. by   moliuchick
    I have just purchased a Tungsten E and I have wondering if anyone know of any FREE software for chinese/english dictionary?
  6. by   PedsNurse1981
    Very interesting topic to me. At my hospital (which is part of a major university), all of the nursing students that come through are required to purchase some sort of palm. Some of them hate it, but most of them love it. As the youngest nurse on my floor, I would find it very helpful to own one, and hopefully will soon. It's such a pain for me have to go searching for drug books and other reference books. I would like to have all that information in my pocket. One thing that bugs me though is how some of the nurses on my floor look at the few that do have palms. It's ridiculous! You'd think the nurse had 2 head they way they look at them. Oh well.
  7. by   RNCENCCRNNREMTP
    Quote from moliuchick
    I have just purchased a Tungsten E and I have wondering if anyone know of any FREE software for chinese/english dictionary?
    Not sure if it is there, but if it is free for the Palm it will be at this site http://freewarepalm.com/
  8. by   NeedAdvice1234
    My suggestion is the Palm Tungsten seriers


    expensive considering it so new but alot of features and expnadability. More medical students are using PALm because of the new Advantgo servers support medical record datasheets. Thats my recomendation
  9. by   moliuchick
    Quote from RNCENCCRNNREMTP
    Not sure if it is there, but if it is free for the Palm it will be at this site http://freewarepalm.com/
    Thank you so much. I will check it out.
  10. by   Denise127
    Quote from chrn
    Finally...something I know something about!!
    Let me elaborate..
    You need to understand that "Palm" is a brand name for hardware devices -Palm Pilots, like the m515, etc.
    Palm is also an "operating system" (like Windows 98 or XP is an operating system). The Sony Clie' devices use the Palm operating system -Palm OS (current version is 4.1 or 5, I believe).
    Now there is a competitor called PocketPC. This is Microsoft's handheld device operating system.
    There is an ongoing debate about which operating system is best (more about that later). Key issues in the debate are:
    * Palm has had and continues to have the most freeware/ shareware and especially, clinical reference programs for doctors and nurses.
    * Palm is cheaper to buy initially.
    * Pocket PC is Microsoft, therefore inheritantly, compatable with other Microsoft products (like Office-Excel, Access, etc).
    * Pocket PC may be behind in the development of clinical software, but won't be second for long.
    I don't promote one or another. I just think people that are contemplating need to be aware of what these terms mean. (As I am sure many of you know. I am directing this at the beginning handheld user.)
    As far as the handhelds themselves, you can get a pretty good starter for $200-$300. The Sony Clie' has a color model for just over $200. Dell has just introduced a nice model for about $200. Most newer models have a minimum of 16mg of memory on the device and are expandable "to infinity" with cards. As mentioned in another post, you can get a 64mg memory card for less than $50. Best Buy online is a good place to look.
    Now for a primer on programs:
    Epocrates is one of the first medical reference programs to be widely adopted. It is a very comprehensive drug reference that gives dosages, indications, even prices. It is updated every time you synchronize your handheld. It has previously only been available in Palm OS, but they are currently developing a Pocket PC format that should be available in the next month or so. Epocrates is free for the basic program, you can get a couple of other versions for a reasonable fee, including Infectious Disease ref and formularies.
    www.epocrates.com
    Epocrates has traditionally been aimed at the physician market and does not have some things nurses need, such as monitoring information, teaching.
    Some drug programs that nurses like include Davis Drug Guide and Lexi-Comp.
    A very popular reference program is PepidRN. I only saw this demonstrated- it is a 20mg program and I didn't have room.
    An excellent site for all kinds of information, program downloads, even buying a handheld loaded with the programs you want is [url]www.pdacortex.com (previously RNPalm). Check out their list serv for pdas in nursing for the most current input by people using these devices every day.
    www.Pepid.com and www.skyscape.com are other good sites.
    Hope I didn't put you to sleep. I did a couple of PowerPoint presentations on handheld computers in healthcare- that would have been more appealing!!
    Good luck , Cindy
    Cindy,

    I am a LPN student who will graduate in Dec, 2004 and continue on in the RN Mobility program in Alabama.

    I have just recently purchased a Sony Clie' Palm OS version 4.1. I would like to know what software would you recommend that I purchase to use in my clinicals/future employment as a RN. Could you also give me advice on how I can learn more about how to use this new device productively.

    Thank you for any help/advice you can provide.

    Tina
  11. by   moliuchick
    :angryfire Now, I am really mad. I want to load more programs to my palm but it said,"memoryMgrc,Line=3635, NULLhandle" "need reset" what the heck?????????

    I have a lot of software in my Tungsten E but also installed some of them in my 256 mb memory card why is it running out of space?????????????

    Do you think the memory card is not good? I got it from Ebay.

    But my palm Quick install shows that I still have 18.9KB in my palm and 243.8mb in my memory card. How come they said I don't have enough room???

    These things really add stress to my stressful nursing student life!!! Can I throw my Tungsten E against the wall??????????????????????
  12. by   moliuchick
    Quote from RNCENCCRNNREMTP
    Not sure if it is there, but if it is free for the Palm it will be at this site http://freewarepalm.com/
    Great website. I stayed up till 12am last night to load a bunch of software to my palm. I have the 1st AID, eponyms and that's it.
    I had loaded more than that but they didn't show up on my Tungsten E?
    Do you know why?
  13. by   RNCENCCRNNREMTP
    Quote from moliuchick
    Great website. I stayed up till 12am last night to load a bunch of software to my palm. I have the 1st AID, eponyms and that's it.
    I had loaded more than that but they didn't show up on my Tungsten E?
    Do you know why?
    Some of the programs require a "reader"ike iSilo (www.isilo.com) to open them up. Always check before you download what the minimum requirements are to run the program. It should tell you if a reader and which one is required.

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