Sanford Brown College of St. Peters, MO LPN to ADN RN - page 3

Hello All, I currently in LPN school in Illinois and looking for a LPN to Assoc. RN program. I am greatly considering Sanford Brown in St. Peters, Missouri. I had an interview with them and the... Read More

  1. by   STL2008, RN
    Quote from Angela.RN2B
    I know it is soo sad. They take full advantage of people. You can go to a Community college for a ADN get a job at a great place such as St.Johns Mercy and work full time and they will pay the bills for you to get your BSN and maybe even your MSN if you wish. You have to make smart educated choices. It may take a little longer but nothing worth while comes fast and easy.

    EXACTLY!
  2. by   dbacon0328
    We are all nurses and we take the same NCLEX. Period.
  3. by   dbacon0328
    Oh and there are people in very high positions that went to the University of Who Knows What. It's a matter of experience.
  4. by   WDWpixieRN
    Quote from dbacon0328
    Oh and there are people in very high positions that went to the University of Who Knows What. It's a matter of experience.
    If you read ALL the threads regarding SB, the issue for most of us is not whether they're competent RNs once they take the NCLEX that we ALL take as you point out.

    The issue is the cost, the overall quality of the education (for those who care), and the ultimate transferability of these credits that cost people dearly at Sanford Brown. Why should someone pay top $$ and spend 3 or 4 years to get a SB BSN only to find out that several years down the line if they want an MSN they have to repeat core classes before a university will accept those credits? Who wants to spend more time and money doing something they already did once?!?!? That's where the issue is: accreditation.

    For anyone considering SB, think about your long-term goals. Think BIG. Right now you might think just the RN initials are sufficient, but should you EVER want a MSN or CRNA or whatever, it's been suggested that you check with ANY univerisity that you would consider in the future. Or maybe you'll decide you want to switch majors -- education, landscaping, business, etc. -- who knows? Ask the university whether they'll accept ALL your transferring credits from SB. If so, then the subject's moot; if not, then it's worth someone who's just beginning their nursing journey to take that in to account before they find themselves thousands of dollars in debt and several years down the road.
  5. by   WDWpixieRN
    Quote from dbacon0328
    We are all nurses and we take the same NCLEX. Period.
    Of course, these students will have to PASS the NCLEX. SB's pass rate has been <80% for 4 years for Associate's degrees. And if I'm reading that right, that's among the lowest in the state -- next to Chamberlain's.

    http://pr.mo.gov/boards/nursing/passrates.pdf

    I think, as is often mentioned on these boards, that those numbers say something about the standard of education one receives at their educational institution. Period.
  6. by   RJ---RN
    Yes, they have been on probation with the State Board of Nursing several times.
  7. by   Labmum2
    I'm so grateful I found this board. As someone who is considering nursing, the advice I've been reading on this board is invaluable. I had no idea Sanford Brown had such negative reviews until now.
  8. by   RJ---RN
    Labmum2: I wish you well. There are plenty of great nursing schools. Just make sure they are North Central Accredited. That is key if you want to eventually get your BSN or beyond. I was an LPN for 10 years, but once I got started, my quest for learning did not cease. I call myself a "hardway warrior", eventually getting my masters. With each degree, doors open for you. GOOD LUCK!
  9. by   dbacon0328
    You are correct and that is our personal decisions. Many of you that are talking about SBC are younger people who dont have a husband, kids, or work that you have seniority. I definitely agree that it does take some research to find out what school will accept you. Personally, I have done my research and will be happy to help anyone who needs help. Do what you feel is best for you and your family. Nursing education is highly expensive anyway. Right now I am concerned with the well being of my 3 children and the option of increasing my income and stature. This is why I chose SBC. I feel as though my education was good for me and I was willing to pay any price to better the lives of my family.
  10. by   WDWpixieRN
    Quote from dbacon0328
    You are correct and that is our personal decisions. Many of you that are talking about SBC are younger people who dont have a husband, kids, or work that you have seniority.
    50+; 3 kids; 2 grandkids; was working full-time in a job where I had seniority. I took all my prereqs part-time through the STLCC, then attended their program after being on the waitlist for a year. I spent maybe all of $3500 including every last penny for books, tennies, whatever.

    I'll take that financial burden, the overall successful pass rates, and the knowledge that ALL of my credits will transfer just about anywhere in the U.S. over the unknowns that can accompany a SBC education.

    But you are correct -- it is a personal decision and one should be well-informed before taking the plunge.
    Last edit by WDWpixieRN on Apr 3, '09 : Reason: spelling
  11. by   dbacon0328
    My kids are babies. They are 8, 5, and 2. And my husband is also in college. We are high school sweethearts and we had our first baby a year out of high school. I don't know how your story compares to some of the people that are in my class or me. Those kids are the reason why I live and if there is any way for me to better myself for them, the sooner the better. This has been a tough year and I couldn't imagine doing it for 3+ years. But really if SBC is not for you then don't do it. Do what you feel is best for you. Not everyone is the same. I'm just saying that God makes a way for everything, believe me. I have seen it and lived through it in only 27 years.....
  12. by   WDWpixieRN
    Quote from dbacon0328
    I'm just saying that God makes a way for everything, believe me. I have seen it and lived through it in only 27 years.....
    And I'm just saying -- it's very presumptuous to make the assumption that we are a bunch of naive, footloose and fancy-free "younger people" that are responding to the request for information about SBC.

    A good majority of us are informed, educated, and mature adults who have done our homework both in the classroom and out about our educations. When someone asks an opinion on these boards, we feel inclined to offer OUR .02 about what we know; that's why they're asking.

    I have my own personal experiences and knowledge of SBC; you have yours. My bottom line is that it's a shame for someone to pay those big bucks for that education when more affordable, accredited options are out there. Even if that means delaying the final RN for a year or so. There ARE other options....
  13. by   dbacon0328
    Put yourself in my shoes. That's all I'm saying. What's good for you may not be good for me. I value everyone's opinion whether I agree or not. I'm saying personally I had no problem with the school. I already explained why I took this route. I thought it may help others out there. It does show your age on your profile. A lot of the people who have replied are younger folk. I mean I know I'm young too but I have had to mature quite fast. I definitely value an older nurse's opinoin. I have two aunts that have been nurses for over 25 years. They are both charge at major hospitals. I asked their opinion on my education and they didn't see a problem with it at all. One of them went to a four year university. They both said that considering my situation, it was best for me. When you have little money like most of us these days, and you are living day to day, sometimes you just have to do what you have to. I see what you are saying though. Just don't down the school because it makes nurses like me who went there and successfully passed their boards on the first try just a tad bit offended.

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