Re: Any new grads having a hard time finding a job?? Originally Posted by vanillavirtue
Why is it that people are so sensitive and quick to offense now days? The statement that I wrote was to help the young individual that had a question about where to apply for nursing jobs. UMC and CMMC are both hospitals that have a lot of turn overs. UMC is also a large hospital with plenty of areas to work so new grads would need to try there. Also, everyone has a right to voice an opinion. Also, you mentioned something about tone. For one, we are in a discussion board and you can't hear my tone. You do not hear my voice inflection nor do you see my body language. So for you to say that I need to watch my tone, would be absurd. Also, I'm not afraid of the gospel. I'm not afraid to shout on the rooftops about what Jesus has done for me and what he can do for people. Now, I do agree with your statement about discussing certain things with people about God, because it could be casting pearls before swine. Some things people aren't ready for nor do they have an ear to hear. Anyway, good luck to you as well and may God prosper the way before you!

People are sensitive about this issue because it's not as black and white as you state. The current economy is having a major impact on people of all faiths. With regard to the statement that discussing certain things about God could be tantamount to "casting pearls before swine" (I assume you mean non-believers as well as those of different faiths such as Buddhism, Muslim, etc) is extremely inflammatory. They are not swine. They are people, just like you and I. Suffering and prospering. Laughing and hurting. Being sick and in good health. A person does not merit being referred to as "swine" because they differ in your belief structure. Please consider your sense of tolerance when dealing with patients of different faiths. In nursing, accepting patients as they are is of utmost importance regardless of how they worship or what they believe.
You responded to my previous post and reiterated your stance that those who follow the Bible to its fullest and have an abundance of faith are not in a recession. If you are not experiencing financial difficulties, I am happy for you. I happen to know way too many people with just as much faith and adherence to the Bible and their duties to mankind that you do who are jobless despite networking/applying for ANY job even outside of the nursing field. Do you say to them that they lack faith or that somehow their commitment to God is in question?
Nursing is a holistic field. We do need to bear in mind that some patients will seek spiritual guidance during their hospitalization/illness. It would be foolish to outright ignore this need. However, it is a very touchy topic because you don't know where they are at on the continuum of belief or non belief. My mother-in-law is Wiccan and even though she may need spiritual guidance during a time of crisis (or non-crisis), it is NOT our place to insert our own personal beliefs. Care is centered around the patient and our feelings are irrelevant.
My personal belief in God has not wavered and yet I am unable to secure employment. My husband who is an atheist has a very stable job as an ICU nurse. Go figure. My mother-in-law (who is Wiccan) is also very happily employed. LOGIC dictates that a persons religious preference has no bearing on their employment/financial status. Of course you can point to all the people you know personally and say that because of their faith they are prospering....but I gaurantee you that if you took a National poll you would find that the recession is an equal opportunity scourge. One example is the state of Mississippi (since we're on the MS board afterall)...only 25% of people have quality health insurance. Compare that to less religious states (like Washington where I currently reside)...75% of our population has quality health insurance. Another statistic is that in the Bible Belt, there is more poverty, more infant mortality, and lower quality education. I realize that you shy away from such concepts as logic and prefer to revert to mere faith...but ignoring the facts does not make them go away.
I am retiring from this thread because it's taken a different direction than the original purpose and because no constructive/intelligent debate can occur when anectdotal evidence and insisting that issues of religion will ensure prosperity.
For your sake (and the sake of your loved ones) I wish you the best.
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