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Hi Everyone! I attend Wayne County Community College District. I was wondering if anyone new anything about WCCCD's nursing program. Do they have a waiting list? If so, how long is the waiting list.... Read More

  1. by   StudNurse35
    I looked into the post about about WCCCD being reviewed or under question about there accredidation or something to another. I am attending another school for nursing, but I tried to get into WCCCD a few years back. I have a few friends that are finishing up their last year in the program now. Well first off the poster of the comments provided one valuable service at least it got folks to verify their schools credentials. Which is good. On the other hand rumors aren't something to post on a student forum such as this. If it was worded differently it would of been a bit better. I like WCCCD's program it's pretty good. Even where I attend Nursing School (U of M) I like to see the NCLEX Pass rates to see how my school is doing. Which if the school doesn't provide you can get them from the State board if you request them under the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) i writing. Back to the point. This board is a discussion board, some of it is nothing more than unverifiable rumors or opinions, while some of it is valuable information.

    Like everything take the good with the bad. I think the next time whoever posted those comments, would think before posting things on a public forum. WCCCD is fine and I am sure they will have there NLN accredidation back soon again.
  2. by   JillianAnn143
    Hello everyone! I am in the process of getting everything ready to apply to the program this May. I was wondering if anyone has any information about transferring credits to WCCC. I took English 1 and 2, psychology, and government at Eastern and I am wondering what happens when I send my transcripts over? Do the grades transfer? And if not then how do they figure my gpa?? Any help would be appreciated.
  3. by   blue2rose
    Hi there! Right now the nursing program from WCCCD doesn't have a waiting list, but you need a high GPA and a good NET score. The last GPA they accepted in the fall was 3.8. There is no joke!
    The nursing program there is no joke. The 1st 7 1/2 weeks are hell because you have to be in class for 20 hours and study at home at least 20. The nursing teachers are bad the majority of them. Many of them will make it impossible for you to finish the nursing program. THe majority of them don't teach anything. Many classes are self-teaching and the tests are horrible. This is the reality. You'll see.I know from experience.
  4. by   blue2rose
    Quote from bluehecubus1
    I just heard and verified it that WCCCD that Michigan Board of Nursing may be revoking the accredidation of WCCCD apparently there are alot of issues. I verifed with the State Board that it is under review. Any students that are in the program without a completion within the year will not be eligible to sit for the RN exam. If this happens be careful. I am not going into details, since some is sketchy. All that is certain is it being considered. Just a heads up, and do you research. Good luck to all!
    That school has a million issues, not only "A LOT". I know people who finished the classes needed for nursing at WCCCD and, then, they went to Wayne State when they heard about WCCCD's nonexistent accreditation.
    WCCCD is a horrible school. How do explain the low number of students who graduate? From 120 students who started in the fall of 2006, only 44 finished. What is wrong with this picture?
    The horror stories are only here.
  5. by   missgigius
    It never fails to amaze me that most the stories that come from people report how "bad" WCCCD program comes from "a friend", "my neighbor" or hearsay. The others horror stories come from people that failed or couldn't get into the program at WCCCD. (I am not implying that this is the case of the OP) As a WCCCD nursing student, I admit the program is not perfect but from what I understand there are very few programs, if any that are perfect.

    It is interesting that you brought up Wayne State in your comment because Wayne State actually has a partnership with WCCCD for all students (including us nursing students) to transfer WSU after graduation or as transfer students. I am actually in the program it is called Wayne Direct and my ADN from WCCCD will be accepted because WCCCD nursing program is approved by the Michigan Board of Nurses. I personally spoke to counselors at WSU and I will have no problem attending WSU for my BSN.

    As far as the number that graduate being low, in my class people dropped out for many different reasons. I know several people that left the program because the couldn't handle the intensity of the classes or had family obligation that they had to take care of. The majority of people that I know left for reasons other than failing and I don't know anyone at all that left due to being unsatisfied with the program.

    If there is a nursing program that is perfect or don't have issues with the instructors, staff or something else sign me up. It seems that almost every school on here at some time or another has had students complain. Nursing school is hard and it is difficult to get into programs. I found that most of the negative comments about any school either comes from someone that couldn't get into a program or failed out of one. (BTW, I am not implying that this is the case of the original poster.)
    Last edit by missgigius on Nov 2, '08 : Reason: I needed to put a couple of disclaimers in my post.
  6. by   SillyRabbit
    Quote from d4bluegj
    That school has a million issues, not only "A LOT". I know people who finished the classes needed for nursing at WCCCD and, then, they went to Wayne State when they heard about WCCCD's nonexistent accreditation.
    WCCCD is a horrible school. How do explain the low number of students who graduate? From 120 students who started in the fall of 2006, only 44 finished. What is wrong with this picture?
    The horror stories are only here.
    WCCCD this WCCCD that, always some story out here about WCCCD. I wonder where all this information is coming from. It's usually students who didn't make it or students who didn't get in. How easy do we expect nursing to be. I wonder if these stories are coming form people that never even stepped a foot on WCCCD campuses. I here the same type of stories form other students of other schools. Guess where those stories come from people who didn't make it. I think WCCCD just gets bashed because it's primarily in Detroit. Anywho I work in a facility where WCCCD nursing have just been hired and guess what they passed their boards on the first try. Whereas the one's who got hired from more well known schools are still trying to pass there's. Keep bashing WCCCD the more I'll get out of it.
  7. by   blue2rose
    Quote from SillyRabbit
    WCCCD this WCCCD that, always some story out here about WCCCD. I wonder where all this information is coming from. It's usually students who didn't make it or students who didn't get in. How easy do we expect nursing to be. I wonder if these stories are coming form people that never even stepped a foot on WCCCD campuses. I here the same type of stories form other students of other schools. Guess where those stories come from people who didn't make it. I think WCCCD just gets bashed because it's primarily in Detroit. Anywho I work in a facility where WCCCD nursing have just been hired and guess what they passed their boards on the first try. Whereas the one's who got hired from more well known schools are still trying to pass there's. Keep bashing WCCCD the more I'll get out of it.
    I am a student at that school. I hope that you will finish the nursing program. No one expects the nursing program to be easy, but here is the most horrible nursing program ever. I never heard of a school where the teachers aren't happy because 60 will finish in december and, they say that only 40 should finish. How do you explain that? In Medsurg 4 they told us that on the test will be the first 3 chapters, but they had the first 5 chapters. The average of the class was 60%. They did that on purpose, so we will fail. The majority of the nursing instructors here are not happy to see many people to finish this school. They should audit the nursing instructors when a certain % is failing their classes. They should be questioned, but nobody cares. They are proud when half of the class is not passing.
  8. by   blue2rose
    Quote from d4bluegj
    I am a student at that school. I hope that you will finish the nursing program. No one expects the nursing program to be easy, but here is the most horrible nursing program ever. I never heard of a school where the teachers aren't happy because 60 will finish in december and, they say that only 40 should finish. How do you explain that? In Medsurg 4 they told us that on the test will be the first 3 chapters, but they had the first 5 chapters. The average of the class was 60%. They did that on purpose, so we will fail. The majority of the nursing instructors here are not happy to see many people to finish this school. They should audit the nursing instructors when a certain % is failing their classes. They should be questioned, but nobody cares. They are proud when half of the class is not passing.
    From what I see, you're not even in the nursing program there, but you comment on something you don't know for sure. You don't even know what you get yourself into. I will you good luck!
  9. by   finola
    I had to make a comment here. WCCCD, in my opinion is a horrible program for nursing. I WAS in the nursing program. In my group that started in Jan of 2008, 77 out of 120 failed! To me that is a sign that something is wrong with the teaching, not just students. There are instructors that do not teach. They belittle you in class. Saw that first hand. Alot of classes are self-taught, which I cant do. My med/surg instructor told us on one particular test that if we scored higher than a certain percentage then she would assume you cheated, because no one can score that high on her test! What kind of BS is that? Your supposed to go to her after class, on her schedule to discuss your test. You go and your treated horrible. Even in some cases seriously put down. I know we are adults and shouldnt need a hand to hold..but there is this thing called respect..just because we are students does not mean we need to be talked down to like children. On the other hand..there are some instructors that are awsome and i was fortunate enough to have them for foundations. They treat you with respect and pump you full of confidence. They are honest and their teachind style is great. I was one of the 77 that failed. I did the remediation and was supposed to start back up a couple weeks ago. But during the summer I had a lot of time to think about what I was doing and decided that WCCCD is not where I wanted to continue school at with nursing. Remediation was a joke. Just busy work. Yes, nursing school should be hard. Its a lot of responsibility..a persons life is in your hands..ur the door between life and death..as we were told. So it shouldnt be as easy as AP was. You should spend hours of studing regardless of which school you go to. But its almost like you are set up for failure with some of these instructors. I would never tell someone to go to WCCCD for nursing. I would push people to go for their bachelors. If I continued at WCCCD..it would be almost 4 years to get an assoc. degree. I started pre reqs in fall of 06. I went year round to get my pre reqs done. Started nursing in Spring 08. So I could have been done december of 09. Then after failing it was may of 10..with those amount of years I should have done a bachelors program...which is what im looking for now. Live and learn I guess. Good luck to all of you that are sticking it out at WCCCD!
  10. by   RN1982
    When I started HFCC's program about 1/3 dropped first semester. Big deal. That's when you find out who is going to make it and who isn't. Nursing school is hard and you have to consider the students before you. I don't blame instructors for being hard on students especially after having to deal with students who cheat/lie to get ahead. They expect a lot from students and rightfully so because you have peoples' lives in your hands. Its the same all over, those who fail their nursing program will complain about it and blame the instructors.
  11. by   SillyRabbit
    Quote from finola
    I had to make a comment here. WCCCD, in my opinion is a horrible program for nursing. I WAS in the nursing program. In my group that started in Jan of 2008, 77 out of 120 failed! To me that is a sign that something is wrong with the teaching, not just students. There are instructors that do not teach. They belittle you in class. Saw that first hand. Alot of classes are self-taught, which I cant do. My med/surg instructor told us on one particular test that if we scored higher than a certain percentage then she would assume you cheated, because no one can score that high on her test! What kind of BS is that? Your supposed to go to her after class, on her schedule to discuss your test. You go and your treated horrible. Even in some cases seriously put down. I know we are adults and shouldnt need a hand to hold..but there is this thing called respect..just because we are students does not mean we need to be talked down to like children. On the other hand..there are some instructors that are awsome and i was fortunate enough to have them for foundations. They treat you with respect and pump you full of confidence. They are honest and their teachind style is great. I was one of the 77 that failed. I did the remediation and was supposed to start back up a couple weeks ago. But during the summer I had a lot of time to think about what I was doing and decided that WCCCD is not where I wanted to continue school at with nursing. Remediation was a joke. Just busy work. Yes, nursing school should be hard. Its a lot of responsibility..a persons life is in your hands..ur the door between life and death..as we were told. So it shouldnt be as easy as AP was. You should spend hours of studing regardless of which school you go to. But its almost like you are set up for failure with some of these instructors. I would never tell someone to go to WCCCD for nursing. I would push people to go for their bachelors. If I continued at WCCCD..it would be almost 4 years to get an assoc. degree. I started pre reqs in fall of 06. I went year round to get my pre reqs done. Started nursing in Spring 08. So I could have been done december of 09. Then after failing it was may of 10..with those amount of years I should have done a bachelors program...which is what im looking for now. Live and learn I guess. Good luck to all of you that are sticking it out at WCCCD!
    I understand excatly what you are saying, but as somone else said before it's usually the students who didn't make it who complain the most. I have a friend who attended OCC and HFCC and your story sounds similar to their's. My friend that attended OCC said she was step up as well as others for failure, because the teacher would have tests that didn't go with the lecture. My friend from HFCC failed their program 2 twice for the same reasons. I see that it's not just WCCCD that has this problem. We all have to think if we have families and full time jobs than it will take us longer to finish our goals. Don't give up! I also have a friend who has been in WCCCD program since August 2007 and will be done in May 2009 and she has never failed a semester. So sometimes it's the individual.
  12. by   sweetjean143
    I started the program at WCCCD in August 07, and I have not failed a class (knock on wood). I have gone through the program with a friend that I made on the first day of Nursing school orientation, and she has not failed either. It just depends. You have to be self motivated.
  13. by   RN1982
    Quote from JillianRN2B
    I started the program at WCCCD in August 07, and I have not failed a class (knock on wood). I have gone through the program with a friend that I made on the first day of Nursing school orientation, and she has not failed either. It just depends. You have to be self motivated.
    Seriously, I'm sick of people blaming instructors for having failed their nursing programs. It just seems too easy to put the blame on people who are there to teach you. They are not there to hold your hand all the way through nursing school. Yeah some instructors can be rude and abrasive. I went to HFCC, there were plenty of instructors there that were like that. I've met some professors from WSU who were that way too. You need to be motivated and I think it says a lot about someone's personal accountability when they fail something and blame someone else for it.

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