Re: Female nurses have more advantage over male nurses?

Originally Posted by TheCommuter

Male nurses, in my opinion, are sometimes treated a little better than their female counterparts. For example, the rude doctor who screams loudly at the female nurse in front of a group of people wouldn't even think of behaving in the same manner toward the male nurse.

Probably this is true...males tend to take advantage of those they perceive as weaker. I've seen a few angry people, but fortunately have never seen a doctor scream loudly at anybody. As a charge nurse, trust me when I say I get my fair share of dealing with unhappy docs and they don't treat me any different than other folks on my unit. In fact, I put myself in the line of fire to shield my nurses. Over time, however, they get to know me and 99.99% of our conversations are civil, and if they are upset about something we're doing wrong I deal with it.

Originally Posted by madwife2002

Poppycock I have never heard male students having to work harder than female students in nursing in my life nor have I seen it. What I have noticed however is many students dont like to work hard and it is not gender based.
Ok I will duck now

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"Poppycock"....what a lovely British word. You could be cursing us out and we'd never know it.

I was one of two nurses and did feel the eyes of the other students and instructors were on me a bit more harshly than the females. Personally though I tend to be a hard working overachiever anyway, so can't say I was expected to work harder than females. But I don't necessary believe what the person said was "poppycock".

Re: Female nurses have more advantage over male nurses?

Originally Posted by Tweety

Probably this is true...males tend to take advantage of those they perceive as weaker. I've seen a few angry people, but fortunately have never seen a doctor scream loudly at anybody. As a charge nurse, trust me when I say I get my fair share of dealing with unhappy docs and they don't treat me any different than other folks on my unit. In fact, I put myself in the line of fire to shield my nurses. Over time, however, they get to know me and 99.99% of our conversations are civil, and if they are upset about something we're doing wrong I deal with it.




"Poppycock"....what a lovely British word. You could be cursing us out and we'd never know it.

I was one of two nurses and did feel the eyes of the other students and instructors were on me a bit more harshly than the females. Personally though I tend to be a hard working overachiever anyway, so can't say I was expected to work harder than females. But I don't necessary believe what the person said was "poppycock".

It is a lovely word isn't it I can compare two countries now and I have found that here in the US generally the male nurses are extreemly well informed, work as hard as the females nurses and there are a lot of them. In the UK 'generally' they are lazy, not well informed and there are few and far between. So I do agree they tend to stand out more because you are making sure they are not sneeking off (in the UK)
Now in the UK the Gay nurses are outstanding. But straight male nurses spend half their time flirting with the female staff and the other half trying to get out of work or focusing on projects to enable themselves to get into management positions as quickly as possible.
Now before everybody bites my head off I am generalising but if needed I can provide hundreds of real life situations where I personnally have witnessed this behaviour as a student, rn, charge nurse and manager.

Re: Female nurses have more advantage over male nurses?

[quote=madwife2002;3195861]It is a lovely word isn't it I have to say I prefer balderdash and piffle myself!

In the UK 'generally' they are lazy, not well informed and there are few and far between. So I do agree they tend to stand out more because you are making sure they are not sneeking off (in the UK) sadly, there is an element of truth in that!
Now in the UK the Gay nurses are outstanding. and loved by the ladies.... really funny to watch a ward full of female patients putting on their best bib and tucker because a favourite male nurse is about to come on duty!

But straight male nurses spend half their time flirting with the female staff and the other half trying to get out of work or focusing on projects to enable themselves to get into management positions as quickly as possible. ah so thats why they all end as managers!!! I used to have to fish the lads out of the canteen to do any work!! but there are some good ones out there.... honestly!!

Re: Female nurses have more advantage over male nurses?

Originally Posted by TheCommuter

Male nurses, in my opinion, are sometimes treated a little better than their female counterparts. For example, the rude doctor who screams loudly at the female nurse in front of a group of people wouldn't even think of behaving in the same manner toward the male nurse.

Docs are generally well-behaved at my facility, but I have noticed that some patients seem more respectful to male nurses. Some confused and agitated patients also seem to respond better to men. One of my female peers thinks it has a lot to do with just having a lower-pitched voice. I think that may be true, at least in part. Part of it may be that we as a society are more socialized to men as authority figures. It also appears to me that older female nurses have it a bit better than younger female nurses. Some of that may be due to greater experience, but some appears to hold for second-career women versus younger nurses with more experience.

Re: Female nurses have more advantage over male nurses?

Originally Posted by madwife2002

It is a lovely word isn't it I can compare two countries now and I have found that here in the US generally the male nurses are extreemly well informed, work as hard as the females nurses and there are a lot of them. In the UK 'generally' they are lazy, not well informed and there are few and far between. So I do agree they tend to stand out more because you are making sure they are not sneeking off (in the UK)
Now in the UK the Gay nurses are outstanding. But straight male nurses spend half their time flirting with the female staff and the other half trying to get out of work or focusing on projects to enable themselves to get into management positions as quickly as possible.
Now before everybody bites my head off I am generalising but if needed I can provide hundreds of real life situations where I personnally have witnessed this behaviour as a student, rn, charge nurse and manager.

Please provide this information since the above above is an incredibly offensive generalization.

Re: Female nurses have more advantage over male nurses?

I find that being a male nurse you stick out more. People are more likely to remember you and notice you. This can be a positive or a negative depending on the perception.

Generally for me I think it's been more of a positive than a negative since I'm generally competant and experienced. I find some of the older docs are a bit friendlier with me than with the younger female nurses but I think part of that is just that they recognise I know what I'm doing.

Re: Male Nursing Student Forum Reminder

Originally Posted by suzy253

why do you have to work harder?

Because nurses can be very clickish, and some nurses act like you have to prove yourself to them, which is garbage. Be yourself and do what works best for you.

-David

Re: Female nurses have more advantage over male nurses?

Originally Posted by TheCommuter

Male nurses, in my opinion, are sometimes treated a little better than their female counterparts. For example, the rude doctor who screams loudly at the female nurse in front of a group of people wouldn't even think of behaving in the same manner toward the male nurse.

I've had a doctor scream at me the same way he'd scream at other female nurses. He's a real @%!. I told my DON about him, and how that everyone on the unit feels about this doc. She was shocked cause no one had ever told her about this one doc and everyone feels the same. Surprisingly he got kicked off of the trauma team (I work in a teaching hospital) the other day and now he's with another service. Since I've been working here, my respect for residents goes down as the days go on. Their cocky, rude, and don't respect nurses, and don't listen to what you have to say. When they don't know what to do about a patient they all use the same old line, "I'll come up to the unit and see the patient." Well, as usual, they never do. I had it with them. I was so frustrated one night that I wrote my unit manager an email about them and I didn't want to return to work their anymore. Well, point being...they treat us male nurses the same as they treat you female nurses. There is no bias.

-David

Re: Female nurses have more advantage over male nurses?

Well, we do get to pee standing up...I don't envy those who have to sit on the can at the hospital.

Re: Female nurses have more advantage over male nurses?

Originally Posted by dhammo01

I've had a doctor scream at me the same way he'd scream at other female nurses. He's a real @%!. I told my DON about him, and how that everyone on the unit feels about this doc. She was shocked cause no one had ever told her about this one doc and everyone feels the same. Surprisingly he got kicked off of the trauma team (I work in a teaching hospital) the other day and now he's with another service. Since I've been working here, my respect for residents goes down as the days go on. Their cocky, rude, and don't respect nurses, and don't listen to what you have to say. When they don't know what to do about a patient they all use the same old line, "I'll come up to the unit and see the patient." Well, as usual, they never do. I had it with them. I was so frustrated one night that I wrote my unit manager an email about them and I didn't want to return to work their anymore. Well, point being...they treat us male nurses the same as they treat you female nurses. There is no bias.

-David

I appreciate your post, but I have seen docs treat female nurses far worse than they treat males. Strangly, some female docs do this, too.