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No. 130
Old Jul 02, 2007, 08:28 PM

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Man up and deal.... that's just the way it is.

Darth Nightingale
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No. 131
from fluffhead
Old Jul 14, 2007, 02:11 PM

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When someone on the floor says, "Hey you, with muscles. Come help me lift/move this patient," is that discrimination? I am a new hire - just got my RN on 6/15 - and I get the feeling I am mostly around to lift patients up if they fall. Ugh.
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No. 132
from nursemike
Old Jul 14, 2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fluffhead View Post
When someone on the floor says, "Hey you, with muscles. Come help me lift/move this patient," is that discrimination? I am a new hire - just got my RN on 6/15 - and I get the feeling I am mostly around to lift patients up if they fall. Ugh.
I think it really depends on the overall situation. Do your co-workers assist you when you need it? Are you given opportunities to develop your other skills?

I get asked to help move patients a lot. Before I became a nurse, my job entailed a lot of patient transport, bed-to-chair transfers, etc., and when I wasn't real busy, I often assisted aides with baths, toileting, and ambulation. Confused/combative patients are not uncommon on my unit, and again, even before nursing school, I was getting fairly good at calming some of them. A lot of my newer co-workers may only see the "muscle," but those who've known me awhile also value my experience with these tasks.

I don't think any nurse wants to be a one-trick pony. One of my co-workers is a wicked stick--she could get a blood return starting an IV on a turnip. When all else fails, she's the go-to guy, but she's also a very sharp nurse with decades of experience and a scary knowledge base. Using her as a full-time phlebotomist would be a terrible waste of talent. Of course, one thing I've noticed more and more is that nurses with decades of experience are pretty darned good at not letting themselves be mis-used. It's a skill I don't really recall hearing a lot about in school, but one I'm really looking forward to acquiring (and after two years, I'm a lot closer to acquiring it than I was as a new grad).

Personally, I've always been glad I had some skills to contribute to the team, even if it is just "lifting." Moving patients safely and with the least possible discomfort is not a mindless chore--muscle helps, but brains and practice matter more. Starting out, there were lots of things I wasn't very good at, and others were around to help me. I still count on my coworkers when I have a venapuncture I just can't hit, or a female who doesn't want a male to start her foley (which happens less than one might expect), or even a pt one Q2H turns, since that's usually difficult for one person.

"Hey, you with muscles," is obviously not an appropriate way to address a professional colleague, but context means a lot. Are they saying it in a friendly, playful manner? On my unit, being inappropriate and unprofessional is part of the fun. But if the implication that that's all your good for is seriously intended, then yes, that's discrimination.
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No. 133
from Doubledee
Old Jul 14, 2007, 10:36 PM

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Dear Fluffhead,
If you just got your RN 6/15, you are probably still in the parasite stage of orientation.
I can't believe you would really want your coworkers trying to lift someone without help and risking injury to the patient or herself.
Sure, I expect all men working as nurses (at all levels) find ourselves very popular when there is lifting to be done. But in most cases, it is the first warm body seen who gets asked.
I remember the back ache I had after one day when the hospital transporter, a young man about five-nothing and weighing about 120 lbs, came to me repeatedly through the day for help just sliding patients OOB to the litter. By the end of the day, I dreaded seeing that kid.
But nursing is a team sport. We need to help each other.
On the other hand, I'm not so sure about the "hey muscles!" remark. But that is something you will work out as you make your way as a rookie nurse.
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No. 134
from teeituptom
Old Jul 15, 2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffhead View Post
When someone on the floor says, "Hey you, with muscles. Come help me lift/move this patient," is that discrimination? I am a new hire - just got my RN on 6/15 - and I get the feeling I am mostly around to lift patients up if they fall. Ugh.
Why would that be discrimination, its not in anyay shape or form. Sounds more like someone was flirting with you.And yes we are all there to life pts when they fall.

They didnt say hey you with the beerbelly

or you with Bald head. Or you with anything else.
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No. 135
Old Jul 02, 2008, 09:28 AM
Updated Jul 02, 2008 at 09:31 AM by thebassethound

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I have been working on a med/surg floor for 2 years now. I can honestly say that I know I have been treated unfairly. On more than one occasion I have had nurses walk past 5 female aides doing nothing to find me very busy and ask me to help lift a patient or something of the nature. I know and more than understand that being a health care professional is extremely physically and emotionally demanding. On many occasions (and not from patients but from co-workers) I often hear the voices ringing in my head "can you help me" for hours after I have left work and I begin to wonder if Jesus will soon be out of a job. I try my best to take a humorous attitude towards this until my boss recieves complaints from my co-workers(female nurses) that they cant find me and since there is often more than one complaint my boss presumes me guilty before even asking my side of the story. What I want to know is why is everyone looking for me. What I do know is that if there was any real attempt to find me I know I would have been found. I'm stuck somewhere between quiting and doing construction and confronting them all at once. I am very angry and have been suspended because of this.
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No. 136
from SteveRN21
Old Jul 02, 2008, 02:51 PM

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I try my best to take a humorous attitude towards this until my boss recieves complaints from my co-workers(female nurses) that they cant find me and since there is often more than one complaint my boss presumes me guilty before even asking my side of the story. What I want to know is why is everyone looking for me.
Exactly. Are you an RN? If so, you are perfectly within your rights to expect your coworkers to delegate to the aides on the floor. You are not the heavy lifter simply because you are the only guy there. If you are a tech/aide, then maybe you need to stick to your assignment, rather than being pulled everywhere.

You're guilty? Guilty of what? Not alway being available to lift for your coworkers? If your manager truly buys into this, get out. Don't quit nursing, just get all your ducks in a row quietly and move to another unit or hospital. You can go anywhere with your experience. There are plenty of units out there where nurses work together rather than taking advantage of each other. You need to protect yourself, and your body.
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No. 137
from Audrey28
Old Jul 02, 2008, 03:36 PM
Updated Jul 14, 2008 at 11:01 AM by sirI

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I know this is a male forum- hope its okay I post over here.

I had no idea about the discrimination! I'm still just a student and have a looong way to go. I work Fulltime to take care of my daughter- am a single mom- and its tough! But You guys keep with it! If this is what you are passionate about in life do everything you can to get there- fight hard for it. I have had to fight for a lot of things in my life- and not much has come easily to me. But I do not let it stop me- each day is a new day- I think male nurses are hot. LOL Makes you no less of a man for choosing Nursing- in fact I think its just the opposite- it means you care- and prob are entering the field for the same reason I am. I want to help people [as cliche as that sounds]- LOL I love children and babies and just can not wait to be a NICU/PEDS nurse- I have had people tell me with my work load and being a single mom I prob can't do it- but guess what I am pushing myself hard and am determined to prove them wrong! SO BEST WISHES! AND KEEP WORKING AT IT!
Luv,
Audrey
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No. 138
from Audrey28
Old Jul 02, 2008, 03:39 PM
Updated Jul 14, 2008 at 11:00 AM by sirI

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Originally Posted by thebassethound View Post
I have been working on a med/surg floor for 2 years now. I can honestly say that I know I have been treated unfairly. On more than one occasion I have had nurses walk past 5 female aides doing nothing to find me very busy and ask me to help lift a patient or something of the nature. I know and more than understand that being a health care professional is extremely physically and emotionally demanding. On many occasions (and not from patients but from co-workers) I often hear the voices ringing in my head "can you help me" for hours after I have left work and I begin to wonder if Jesus will soon be out of a job. I try my best to take a humorous attitude towards this until my boss recieves complaints from my co-workers(female nurses) that they cant find me and since there is often more than one complaint my boss presumes me guilty before even asking my side of the story. What I want to know is why is everyone looking for me. What I do know is that if there was any real attempt to find me I know I would have been found. I'm stuck somewhere between quiting and doing construction and confronting them all at once. I am very angry and have been suspended because of this.
Thats def discrimination. You could sue for that! Seriously though do not stand for that! I work in a job right now until I finish school- that I have to lift very heavy boxes/equipment- and I don't go around bugging guys to help me. Thats just not right. Hope it gets better- or you find something better!
Audrey
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No. 139
from Audrey28
Old Jul 02, 2008, 03:43 PM
Updated Jul 14, 2008 at 11:00 AM by sirI

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I just hope when I finally do get to be a Nurse- I will have people willing to help me- LOL Reguardless of male or female- I'll prob just ask whomever is closest by though- I won't go and hunt down any men... LOL Thats just silly.... Okay I've posted 3 x's now- I'll take a breather before someone gets mad at me.... LOL
~Audrey
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