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- Nov 14, '06 by BarrysQuote from danfifI agree, my dad well he thinks a pressure washer is the way he would clean patients. My guy friends, none of them are in nursing.Less manly?
Let me show them the Peri/Rectal/Scrotal abcess that one of my male patients had I&D'd yesterday, and we will see who is "Less Manly"! It would have the most manly man runnin for the hills! Only a Super Man can become a nurse!
Can you say OUCH!
- Jan 1, '07 by johny1Quote from johny1I am a nursing student, currently studying to be an RN. I am really enjoying the experience, however I have an issue that is concerning me.
When chatting up women and the conversation comes up about what I do, and I reply studying nursing, their eyes widen and the mood seems to change. This is not related to women in the field but those outside. As soon as I utter the word nurse, I seem to go from a confident manly guy to a nice guy to them. I know women want confident manly sort of men, but women also say they like a man to be sensitive and caring. Canít a male nurse be sensitive and manly? Do these women see nurses as somewhat effeminate, at worst gay?
If a woman is able to climb the corporate ladder and make big money in business and still have sex appeal, does a man need to limit himself to traditional masculine roles to prove his maleness and be attractive to women or can he do a traditionally feminine job of helping and caring for people.
I understood that when women refer to equality, it is for both men and women. They itís a great idea for men to be nurses, but individually, their actions seem to speak louder than their words.
I would be very interested in your opinions on this both guys and girls
For years, I tried to hammer a square peg into a round hole by falling for the feminist brainwashing that "you need to get in touch with your emotions" etc.
Has it ever occurred to women that a man is indifferent because he actually feels indifferent? Maybe he has no need or desire to talk about emotions and the reason why nice guys do is because they base all their self worth on how women perceive them. Unfortunately the missing piece of the puzzle is that nice guys only take into account what women actually state, not their actions.
Now the other problem is swinging over to the other end of the spectrum and replacing the lost piece of the puzzle with trying to ACT tough, aloof and indifferent. This will not work in the long term and will only continue the negativity because the root of the problem has not been dealt with. Acting like a bad boy is still supplicating to women in a different but equally disempowering sense as is trying to be a nice guy.
The solution is simple, we men must pull back the power we give to women and focus on ourselves, for ourselves, not women. We need to find out how we really "feel" when we no longer value ourselves based on how successful we are in attracting women.
THIS IS THE TOUGH BIT
We must let go of everything we have built our identity on regarding attracting women and find out once and for all who we really are, how we really want to live our lives, based on our own values.
Could it be that when we really give up disempowering ourselves that we no longer have "feelings" of depression, anxiety, low self worth etc? Could this be the end of seeking a substitute for the masculinity that was always within us? Could this be the path to becoming a strong confident and well-adjusted man?
Heres the dichotomy, will a man do what's best for himself, taking the risk that women may overtly show disapproval or will he continue to sell himself out by supplicating to women?
Men who try to be a nice guy or a bad boy or whatever may just be reacting to their insecurity. There are many negative consequences to these actions: supplicating to women by spending vast amounts of time, money and self respect to win a few crumbs of affection is prostituting ourselves as much as risking a criminal record, our neck, and self respect, trying to impress women.
The energy could be put into doing the things we want in our lives and could it possibly be, that maybe, just maybe, women, deep down, want to love and respect a man in his own right, with a strong sense of who he is, what his moral code is, what his boundaries are, and could it be that this is the very essence of what a woman ultimately wants when she says she wants a "real man".
However, it is men who must define what a "real man" is, not women and this is the very reason why he exists and why she responds to him
- Jan 1, '07 by Raymond CABravo, man. Well said. I think your point is that "nice guy" and "bad boy" are too limiting and simplistic ways to look at being a man. "Real men" act like the unique individuals they are, continually growing and adapting to circumstances and women as they see fit.
And if a certain woman doesn't appreciate the value of such a genuine man, tough.
I'm sensitive or insensitive to a woman because that's what I choose to be at the time, not because I read it in a self-help book.
- Jan 5, '07 by ryanfockerQuote from GompersI really wish the world would start to see nursing as a unisex profession.
Now, I'm married, but if I were single and met a nurse that happened to be a man - I'd be interested. You know right off that this guy is going to be smart, educated, caring, and compassionate. Plus, you know that he will always have a job and will have a flexible schedule. What's not to love? I just don't get women sometimes, and I AM one!!!
Just keep your chin up, and be proud of who you are.
question--where are all the women like you in philadelphia?? most women either don't care that i'm a nurse (i profession i am VERY proud of), or think i'm gay....even though i constantly talk about football and women.
i really don't get women sometimes.
- Jan 5, '07 by mingezQuote from ryanfockerBecause many (not all) only pay lip-service to the notion that they don't care about your profession's public image. But when they can put proof to pudding, all things being equal, they'd rather date a non-nurse.question--where are all the women like you in philadelphia?? most women either don't care that i'm a nurse (i profession i am VERY proud of), or think i'm gay....even though i constantly talk about football and women.
i really don't get women sometimes.
It's an uncontrollable subconcious thing. Men are no different concerning their perceptions of the profession.
- Jan 7, '07 by cowpoke_rnJust curious....I met my wife in college and we are both nurses. One of my favorite things about our relationship is that we can talk/vent about our days at work and we always can find understanding in each others success and disappointments. She understands me like no one else. Do you think that because we both are in the same profession makes all the difference?
- Jan 14, '07 by scrubsnhugsRNQuote from pacu_rnJust curious....I met my wife in college and we are both nurses. One of my favorite things about our relationship is that we can talk/vent about our days at work and we always can find understanding in each others success and disappointments. She understands me like no one else. Do you think that because we both are in the same profession makes all the difference?
I think this makes all the difference. Both my parents are nurses, they met in Nursing school too...I know for a fact they have been very supportive and understanding of each other regarding issues at work, bad day or loosing one of thier patients..even though they worked in different departments with different dynamics they really knew the importantace of venting, crying and being supportive to each other.
On another note, I personally believe it makes a difference when there is a male nurse on the floor. It seems like it really changes the dynamics as opposed to all women on the floor. That is just my observation, and I think too that a man being a nurse is in no way a "less than" occupation. Majority of the male nurses I know are very manly....and great critical thinkers...just my opinion.
- Jan 20, '07 by SemperFIJohny1, you are my hero! If the world had a bulletin board for all to see, I would post it there. It's been a long time since I've heard such wise words coming from a guy, and I'm a guy.
- Jan 20, '07 by hfdguyI say be proud of who you are... This is just stupid to be hiding from a time-honored profession like nursing. I am a nurse, and PROUD of it! I know being male and a nurse may bend some peoples perception of what is traditional, but I don't care --- anyone asks me what I do for a living, I'm happy to tell them. I am an important part of people's lives, and that's what counts.
- Jan 20, '07 by styRNQuote from pacu_rnSame here - met my wife in training 18 yrs ago, and although the compromizes made having 2 shift-workers in the house and raising 3 kids in the midst of it all, and the stress of the job, I couldn't imagine being married to someone who wasn't a nurse. Only a nurse, or someone closely associated with the nursing/medical field, can completely understand another nurse.Just curious....I met my wife in college and we are both nurses. One of my favorite things about our relationship is that we can talk/vent about our days at work and we always can find understanding in each others success and disappointments. She understands me like no one else. Do you think that because we both are in the same profession makes all the difference?