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  1. Sep 10, '06 by
    Quote from West_Coast_Ken
    I'd love to see pts try to say "Only female doctors, please."
    Actually, I did for several years. And it was accomodated. Given my reasons for requesting the accomodation, most practitioners were okay with it.
  2. Sep 11, '06 by
    Quote from caroladybelle
    Actually, I did for several years. And it was accomodated. Given my reasons for requesting the accomodation, most practitioners were okay with it.
    I am happy for you that they listened to you, something they don't often do for men, at least in my experience.
  3. Sep 11, '06 by
    Quote from caroladybelle
    Actually, I did for several years. And it was accomodated. Given my reasons for requesting the accomodation, most practitioners were okay with it.
    And what do you do if a famale doc isn't available?
  4. Sep 11, '06 by
    Quote from West_Coast_Ken
    And what do you do if a famale doc isn't available?
    Given my reasons, the male healthcare workers were amenable to finding a substitute.

    And given my culture/religion, there were always female primary providers available.
  5. Sep 11, '06 by
    Quote from caroladybelle
    And given my culture/religion, there were always female primary providers available.
    That statement doesn't make any sense to me and it doesn't answer the question "What would you do if there were no female docs available?"

    ...but I'm kinda beat following a fun, but long clinical day and a pharm test tomorrow so I say, good for you that you have found providers you prefer.

    If you were on vacation in my area, as one of our pts was today, and you threw a PE, as she did, you'd have been tough out of luck as there are zero (0) female docs at that hospital. Lots of female nurses, though. :chuckle
  6. Sep 11, '06 by
    Quote from WannabeOrthoSurgeon
    After reading some of your posts I have a question, and comment.

    Why is it that a woman can do the procedures on a male, and not have a witness but a male cannot do the procedures on a female without having a witness?

    Isn't that racist of a kind?

    Wouldn't it make sense that if a male needs witness to do his duties on a female, that a female needs a witness to do her duties on a male?
    Hmmm, did we not notice somewhere that in our society there are two sets of rules? One for women and one for men?
    I am NOT trying to be a smart@#$ but we have to recognize that this is the way it is. I dont agree with it, it really is racist or chauvanist or one sided, (dont really know what to call it, does anyone else?).

    It should not matter what sex we/you are, we as nurses are all professionals. Unfortunately our patients are not. So we are stuck dealing with their predjudices, their preferences, their own personal problems.
    I agree with the fact that as a male nurse, sometimes it is probably best and safest to cover ones butt. :uhoh21: Fair? No. But it is the way it is with some patients. I dont agree with the double standard, but it is there, sometimes.
  7. Sep 11, '06 by
    Quote from West_Coast_Ken

    If you were on vacation in my area, as one of our pts was today, and you threw a PE, as she did, you'd have been tough out of luck as there are zero (0) female docs at that hospital. Lots of female nurses, though. :chuckle
    did caroladybelle refuse care from male docs with all care or just personal care and procedures?
    and does one differentiate been non-emergent and emergent care?

    big difference.
  8. Sep 12, '06 by
    Quote from KristyBRN
    Hmmm, did we not notice somewhere that in our society there are two sets of rules? One for women and one for men?
    I am NOT trying to be a smart@#$ but we have to recognize that this is the way it is. I dont agree with it, it really is racist or chauvanist or one sided, (dont really know what to call it, does anyone else?).

    It should not matter what sex we/you are, we as nurses are all professionals. Unfortunately our patients are not. So we are stuck dealing with their predjudices, their preferences, their own personal problems.
    I agree with the fact that as a male nurse, sometimes it is probably best and safest to cover ones butt. :uhoh21: Fair? No. But it is the way it is with some patients. I dont agree with the double standard, but it is there, sometimes.
    Yes, I know what to call it...unprofessional. I agree that nurses should be, and for the most part are, professionals. And I am all for respecting the patient's preferences. But when the double standard, also known as discrimination, occurs within the medical community, that's when it becomes unprofessional. For example, a management rule that states that a male nurse cannot do personal cares on a female pt but a female nurse is exempt from that rule with male pts. Elsewhere in this forum you can read examples of male students experiences with instructors and staff in OB clinical rotations, etc. Sure, it's easy to say "that's just the way it is." At one time in this country women couldn't vote. What if the attitude was "that's just the way it is?" Maybe it was at the time, but a number of good people decided that women had much to contribute as equal members of our society and found it unacceptable. The "way it is" became "the way it was" and women got their right to vote. It took men and women to accomplish that. Perhaps one day the medical community will recognize the abilities and contributions of men as caring and competent professionals and officially eliminate any double standards. Men can't do it alone, it will require the support of our female counterparts. It will be a good day when "the way it is" becomes "the way it was."

    Discrimination is demeaning to both the male patient as well as the male healthcare professional. Discrimination and professionalism cannot co-exist.
  9. Sep 12, '06 by
    I am wondering if there are any laws or legal cases about these issues, specifically whether it would be legal for a hospital or nursing home to grant patients requests based on gender, or race, even. Has a nurse who is a male ever sued because a hospital had a policy that male nurses cannot have female patients, or if a hospital told a male nurse he couldn't perform his duties on a female per her request? I keep hearing about these kinds of policies, but what does the law say? There are laws against sex discrimination, so would these patients requests falll under them? What if hospitals granted the requests of patients who didn't want African American nurses, for example? Isn't that the same as granting patients requests based on gender?
  10. Sep 12, '06 by
    Quote from Tommybabe
    I am wondering if there are any laws or legal cases about these issues, specifically whether it would be legal for a hospital or nursing home to grant patients requests based on gender, or race, even. Has a nurse who is a male ever sued because a hospital had a policy that male nurses cannot have female patients, or if a hospital told a male nurse he couldn't perform his duties on a female per her request? I keep hearing about these kinds of policies, but what does the law say? There are laws against sex discrimination, so would these patients requests falll under them? What if hospitals granted the requests of patients who didn't want African American nurses, for example? Isn't that the same as granting patients requests based on gender?
    i would think gender biases are r/t either modesty/social or past trauma issues.
    racial biases are r/t prejudices, for likely unacceptable reasons.