Getting a Boost Because You Are A Minority - page 3

Guys, 'just curious. As a minority, have you felt that maybe being a minority somehow enhanced you getting accepted into Nursing school or somehow maybe received a boost when in school? Gals:... Read More

  1. Visit  PRICHARILLAisMISSED profile page
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    Quote from Guttercat
    Experientially speaking only, it seems men are tracked into management and charge nurse capacities much more quickly. It's aggravating.
    I don't doubt it, especially if you say this is from your personal experience. I'm just saying that men having an advantage in this one field should not be a problem considering we have a disadvantage in nearly all others. How women of Nursing feel about this, we've dealt with all out live in just about any other field. Does it suck for the women in this field? I'm sure it does. Is it right? No, no it isn't. But until the slate is wiped clean, and it is equal everywhere else gender wise, I think that men might as well enjoy the perk of being a minority in one of the few fields that they are not the majority in.

    Personally, I'd like for gender and race to not matter period. I wonder how women and all minorities would feel if everything was equal across the board? Well, I think we all know hte answer to that, actually. Not trying to inflame anyone, but I just choose to see things as they are, and even if its "Improper" to point something out, I will point it out anyway.
  2. Visit  Ntheboat2 profile page
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    Quote from PRICHARILLAisMISSED
    So then, you are saying it IS ok for females to hold an advantage to getting hired just about anywhere other than the Nursing profession, but "Disgusting" if a male has an advantage in this one field?

    Really!??!!
    WHAT are you talking about?

    That is nowhere NEAR what I said. Plus, females don't hold an advantage to getting hired "just about anywhere."

    Did you even read Ruby Vee's post to which I was replying to when I said, "it's disgusting"?

    "I had five more years of experience as a nurse, ten more years of experience with the particular patient population and a master's degree as opposed to his associate's. He made five cents more an hour to start." - Ruby Vee

    That part is gross. Not quite disgusting yet. He shouldn't have even made anywhere near as much as she should've made....much less MORE than she made. The difference between an associates and a masters is huge, but if that's not enough...she had at LEAST ten more years of experience.

    "After one year, RNs were eligible for promotion if they completed a project, joined one of the unit committees, submitted an application and supporting letters of recommendation from colleagues and taught an in-service. DH did none of those things. I did all of them. He got the promotion and the pay raise. I did not." - Ruby Vee

    THAT is disgusting. That's not even just a hiring advantage. Some companies will hire a female just to meet their affirmative action quotas, but I can guarantee you that they don't pay them more. That's a simple fact.
  3. Visit  PRICHARILLAisMISSED profile page
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    All true. Of course it is unfair to Ruby. I am just saying that many men are "RubyVee's" in most other fields...

    I'm not saying I like it. But then again this is one field. Men get this in nearly all other fields. The injustice to RubyVee is commonplace for men everywhere ELSE
  4. Visit  Ntheboat2 profile page
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    Quote from PRICHARILLAisMISSED
    All true. Of course it is unfair to Ruby. I am just saying that many men are "RubyVee's" in most other fields...

    I'm not saying I like it. But then again this is one field. Men get this in nearly all other fields. The injustice to RubyVee is commonplace for men everywhere ELSE
    Oh wow....you are too far behind in what's REALLY going on in the workforce for me to even bring you up to date, much less debate the issue.

    Like I said, you're a mess.
  5. Visit  Anoetos profile page
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    My school gave an extra point to male applicants. You still had to have a great GPA and a good TEAS score, of course.

    We were told that it was because several of the hospital systems in the area had expressed a desire to see more men in nursing. We thought, oh that's nice, putting their money where their mouth is with regard to diversity.

    Now that I am working as a nurse, I have discovered why this is and it really is about money: evidently, and there's data to back this up, men simply don't take as much time off as women. As a rule, they are more likely to work through minor injuries and they don't get pregnant. Employers get a marginally better bang for their buck, not in quality of work of course, but definitely in quantity of work performed, on average anyway.
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    Quote from Ntheboat2
    Oh wow....you are too far behind in what's REALLY going on in the workforce for me to even bring you up to date, much less debate the issue.

    Like I said, you're a mess.
    lol. I've been working non stop since I was 15. While I don't know anything about what's going on in the "Nurse work force," I've been in quite a few others. I know some of the posts I put on AN come off as a bit strong, but unless I put a disclaimer in it, these post I put up come from experience. I never give strong opinions on things I don't feel I have a reasonable understanding about.
  7. Visit  Ntheboat2 profile page
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    Quote from PRICHARILLAisMISSED
    lol. I've been working non stop since I was 15. While I don't know anything about what's going on in the "Nurse work force," I've been in quite a few others. I know some of the posts I put on AN come off as a bit strong, but unless I put a disclaimer in it, these post I put up come from experience. I never give strong opinions on things I don't feel I have a reasonable understanding about.
    Women get paid less than men....even if/when they are hired in as a "minority" they don't get paid more.

    "Research from the Bureau of Labor Statistics indeed suggests women on average make only 77 cents for every dollar earned by men."

    I saw something on TV not long ago that did a study and out of 200+ professions, women made more than men in ONE of those. It was housekeeping and even there it was a difference of 2 cents more. 2 pennies.

    I'm just not sure where your idea that women are treated better in any profession comes from because all the evidence says otherwise.
  8. Visit  PRICHARILLAisMISSED profile page
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    I believe everything you just posted. But have you forgotten my previous post where it was also shown that the reason men get paid more is because they negotiate for more (And like I said in that previous post this is GENERALLY, not ALWAYS true. Don't kill the messenger ).

    Also, while it IS true that women generally earn less than their male counterparts (and I'll say again, I wish this was not the case), they at least GET the job when competing against their male counterpart. So while the woman is working for admittedly less, the male is burning leaves to stay warm because he couldn't get the job at all.
  9. Visit  vincent.rn22 profile page
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    i could not get a job at hooters or be a playboy bunnie so i thought i would go into nursing
    where men have all the advantages i wonder if it was my pretty face or my athletic body that got me
    my first job as an RN could not have been my ability to do the job
    or that i have a good work ethic
    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm hope i dont ever get old and out of shape cause then i could not get a job as a nurse
  10. Visit  Nrsasrus profile page
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    PRICHARILLAisMISSED- Your profile picture says a lot about how you view women and is ample explanation for your arguments.
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    Quote from NJForte
    PRICHARILLAisMISSED- Your profile picture says a lot about how you view women and is ample explanation for your arguments.
    LOL. Actually, I chose that picture because of the bike. It's the redesigned Kawasaki ZX14r, and I'm pretty much obsessed with it. Every day I get closer and closer to buying it, and I even got a nice A** custom paint job in mind for it. I don't want to give away too much detail... But think "DARK PURPLE CHROME!!!!!" Oh, YES!

    Nothin' to do with the model.
  12. Visit  nurse2be13 profile page
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    I wouldn't consider male nurses a minority where I live (western PA). I see just as many male nurses as I do female nurses here.

    I am a minority and I had to work my tail off to get into school. I have no scholarships. My parents make too much money for me to qualify for financial aid. I wish I could get a boost for being a minority lol.
  13. Visit  Nrsasrus profile page
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    Quote from PRICHARILLAisMISSED
    LOL. Actually, I chose that picture because of the bike. It's the redesigned Kawasaki ZX14r, and I'm pretty much obsessed with it. Every day I get closer and closer to buying it, and I even got a nice A** custom paint job in mind for it. I don't want to give away too much detail... But think "DARK PURPLE CHROME!!!!!" Oh, YES!

    Nothin' to do with the model.


    Well, I hope you get your bike but seriously please consider the fact that nursing was one of the first respectable careers for women, we created it all by our timid selves and even though there are a lot of men in the field these days (a very good thing indeed!) we will always be proud of our origins and it pains a lot of us to be seeing men out-earning us statistically. It feels a little like being evicted from our home!

    Peace!

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