Finding a job harder than school and NCLEX put together - page 2

I am a male LPN just graduated and passed NCLEX in august. I have been putting out resumes, filling out applications ect.... and have not heard anything, yet most of the females I went to school with... Read More

  1. by   jov
    Quote from 58flyer
    Try to put yourself in the OP's position and imagine how you would feel about it.
    Actually, 58, I have been in that position. As a woman paramedic, trying to become a firefighter, I had plenty of opportunities to use the lawyer. (welcome to our world, gentlemen).

    "telling someone you won't hire them on the basis of sex alone is pretty darned brazen." Further down the line, in another career, I also had the dubious pleasure of being told I didn't get the job because I was pregnant. Since I was only a little bit pregnant, perhaps it was only a little bit illegal. LOL

    What I meant was the laws are one thing, the societal belief is another. Without changing the societal belief, the laws are only minimally useful.

    I mean, I know there was something said about not hiring males. But that might not have been the you-didn't-get-the-job-sorry reason at all. He was saying some of the other LPN's had jobs already. Which means some of them did not. So was the reason the other LPN's didn't have jobs yet sex discrimination? follow?
  2. by   58flyer
    Quote from jov
    ." I mean, I know there was something said about not hiring males. But that might not have been the you-didn't-get-the-job-sorry reason at all. He was saying some of the other LPN's had jobs already. Which means some of them did not. So was the reason the other LPN's didn't have jobs yet sex discrimination? follow?
    Follow...

    Nice word play, have you considered law school? :chuckle
  3. by   GPN-Man
    It took me 3 months to find a job after school. There was 7 men in my class, we all ended up in undesirable places (last on the list). After a year, I moved on to agency work. I regret this move, as I can't get hours. I am back looking for work and have had ZERO interest in me. No phone calls, no return calls and no interviews. I have been told through the nursing network (grapvine) and by experience that most places do not want men. I have been even turned away by undesirable places. I called my first nursing job and they said I had to reapply and they would look at my application (ugh!). I can't find fulltime, partime or even PRN jobs. My choices at this point are try another agency or get out of nursing after 1.5 years. To think I quit my job and went to school. I am a very good nurse. I have many skills and experience gained from my first job. I cannot afford to make $0.00 or $120 bucks a week through agency anymore. I have a wife and 2 children, we are almost broke.
  4. by   HotmaleSPN
    Sorry about your rotten luck, I dont know why they just dont tell us how hard it is to get a job before we enroll in school, If I had knew this I would not have went into nursing. So far all of my female classmates have jobs, but none of the males do. One of the males got an interview at the Prison, which is probably the only place we can work, because no one else wants to work there. I have 2 plans for finding work, wear a wig and high heels, or take your lawyer job hunting with you, lol
  5. by   jov
    this doesn't make sense to me. If men have a hard time finding jobs, why is it that (in general) when men are working as nurses, they move through the ranks more quickly AND make more money?
  6. by   GPN-Man
    I was told at my first job, during the interview. You will not make it to first shift, no man ever as a LPN. The only male they had on first shift was a RN and they got on his back all the time. They seem sent out to make our (men) lives horrible. The sexual harrassment threats by the aides and so forth. The things I was accused of doing. It really turned me off to this field. I cannot believe how ruthless you have to be to survive in this field.
  7. by   HotmaleSPN
    I went to get my physical for my new job last week, The company Doctor (female) says she hears a click in my heart and thinks I have MVP. I have always been checked out by my doc yearly and they never heard this click, I think they are just trying to keep me from getting a job because I am a male. SO now I went to my own family Doctor and She doesnt hear it, so she sends me to have an echo done this thurs. THe place I am trying to get a job at has 2 male LPN's which are Gay, which is what they like because the females dont feel threatened around gay guys i guess. I am worried they will make life hard for me when they find out I am not gay, I guess they dont like roosters in the hen house
  8. by   Plagueis
    Quote from HotmaleSPN
    I am a male LPN just graduated and passed NCLEX in august. I have been putting out resumes, filling out applications ect.... and have not heard anything, yet most of the females I went to school with all had jobs and were working before they even took NCLEX. The applications say equal opportunity employers, but some of the directors well tell you straight up they dont hire males. Any suggestions?
    I'm sorry to hear that you're going through this. If the directors are telling you that they don't hire males, then that is discrimination, plain and simple. If employers said that they didn't hire African Americans or Hispanics, because some people would be "uncomfortable" with them, then people would claim discrimination, and argue that you could sue, and righly so. Men can be the victims, just like women, of discrimination. If you are qualified, then I don't see why anyone wouldn't hire you, or any other male who happens to be a nurse.
  9. by   West_Coast_Ken
    Quote from 58flyer
    Seriously, sex discrimination violates federal law. You may have to take action via your state's EEOC office.
    EEOC laws do not protect white males.

    I was the Information Technology support for our EEOC dept when they wanted to rewrite their application. As part of understanding their work flow, etc, we asked them some questions about their work, blah, blah, blah. The long and the short of it was, now get this: EEOC laws do NOT protect white males--period. They protect women and minorities but not white men. Meaning, an employer can say we don't want you because you are a man, and they are not violating EEOC laws.

    I never did look into this, but this was from a male who worked in our EEOC office so I think he probably knows the law. Also, there may be state laws against this, but I doubt it (maybe in NY or Calif?)

    You'd think equal opportunity laws would cover everyone, but they do not, at least not the EEOC.

    Regards,

    Ken
  10. by   GPN-Man
    Last week I answered a ad in the local paper for PT work. The DON, discussed what kind of hours I wanted to work and setup a interview. When I arrived at the interview I filled out the app and took a test. I passed the test and so forth. Then the interview came and started with busness talk. We discuseed schedule again, benefits and pay, based on partime work. And out of the blue, she stated we do not have openings. And maybe they can put me on their pool as last in line. Since I live close and would be handy in the winter time. I feel like a LAST RESORT. The whole thing is strange to me. Just chalk it up as another place that turned me down. This is the same place agency had to call to see if they would accept a male nurse. They had all kinds of needs for 11-7. When agency called me back, all the shifts were full. The bright side is, if they put me on the payroll, they can say they don't hire males. Not that they will call or use me much.
  11. by   DolphinRN84
    Quote from HotmaleSPN
    Well I have some good news, I got hired at a county nursing home, its just perdiem for now, so im set to start oct 10th, wish me luck everyone.
    Good luck with your new job tomorrow. I'm not an LPN but as a new RN i'm having trouble finding work as well. Though I do have an interview at the VA tomorrow so we'll see how that goes. Congrats on the new job!
  12. by   HotmaleSPN
    THats why this web site is good, because how else would anyone hear these horror stories. That place I went to has males working in the kitchen as food service workers, so they can get away with saying equal opportunity employer, but they have never, and will never hire a male nurse. The job that did hire me, the NP gave me a hard time saying I have heart problems and so forth, so I went and go an echo, and guess what, I have no heart problems or any other health problems for that matter. So I am thinking of suing them, since I dont have insurance and now I have to pay for an echo that wasnt even necessary. If I am having this much trouble before I even start the job, what can I expect next........ maybe I dont even want to know, may go back to construction work if this keeps up
  13. by   xng
    Quote from HotmaleSPN
    Well I have some good news, I got hired at a county nursing home, its just perdiem for now, so im set to start oct 10th, wish me luck everyone.
    Good luck to your new job. Do tell us what problems you face as a male nurse there so that we can be prepared in the future or we can give you advice on how to solve them.

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