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    Quote from Jen_the_RN2009
    I'm in love with my current shoes: Saucony grid propel plus 2. I've suffered from sore feet in the past, but these shoes rock! I got mine at Famous Footwear, if that helps.
    I wear those as well as Sketcher Shape Ups. They ARE dreamy!! I just ordered another pair of Saucony grids to alternate with the Sketchers. I am with you!

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    Quote from mappers
    I've been a nurse since August 08, but since I'm now 40, shoes have always been a big issue with me since clinicals. My feet and legs just aren't as young as they used to be.

    After experimenting, I've found running shoes to work the best for me. Most "nursing" shoes that I've tried are just so heavy. One pair I had made my legs so tired at the end of a 6 hour clinical, I don't know how I could have handled 12.

    My sister who is an OR nurse likes leather athletic shoes, but she does more standing and I do more walking. I just bought a pair of the Skechers Shape-Ups on-line and I'm kind of hoping they'd work well (once I get used to them.)

    What do you wear?
    I brought three pair of Sketcher Shape Ups. One in white for work, another in black and found they also sold sandals, so, I got a brown pair. Well worth the money and greatly helped my plantar fasciitis. I also were Saucony and New Balance. All three have helped me tremendously along with a pair of great (and expensive) orthotics!

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    Well, my friend is back from her vacation in Puerto Rico and sounds well rested and happy. I love her, she is an inspirational friend and a phenomenal nurse. I am proud to say she is my friend and would never deny her. If it happens again, I may be tempted to write the powers that be, including outsiders myself.

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    loveoverpride and Moogie like this.

    Quote from Moogie
    I think we've worked in the same facility!

    I was the only RN working the floor at a LTC facility; the other floor nurses were all LPNs. My DON held monthly "LPN" meetings to discuss care issues and medication errors. When I started, I asked if I was supposed to attend these meetings since I was an RN. (Honest! I swear I wasn't trying to be a smart***!) After the first couple of times I gently suggested that they call the monthly meetings "floor nurse meetings" and they refused to do so, it started to feel downright disrespectful.

    The worst, though, was that the DON and even one of the RNACs would sometimes refer to me as an LPN. Hey, not that I'm any better because I have a different kind of license and education but I worked damned hard for my RN license and my degrees. I earned the right to the title "Registered Nurse." I was paid RN wages, I was held to RN standards and I was expected to even provide coverage when there were no RNs scheduled. The RNAC, very young and inexperienced, was a little ditzy, so I can understand her gaffes. But the DON---who had far less education and experience than I---sorry, that was a gross lack of respect. I even approached her on it---said that her referring to me as an LPN when I was an RN (with a BSN!) bothered me, she looked at me like I was speaking another language. It simply did not register with her---or perhaps she didn't care. (BINGO!) BTW, the DON was considerably younger than I, had less experience and less education. Not nice! :angryfire
    First, I want to say that I have truly been enjoying your posts. You seem like a reasonable person who is not title hungry and tries to respect everyone. And, I repeat, I would love to had been one of your students or worked with you!

    I agree that you should receive the recognition and respect for earning your RN title and would be insulted as well if regarded as less (and less does not mean insignificant). I am not one of the angry LPNs that strike at RNs out of envy and malice. Because I am not an RN, I don't know what their studying entailed (but hope that it was in more detail than ours...LOL) nor have I had their ultimate responsibility. Many times, I wonder what I would do if I were in some of the situations I have witnessed and believe that I would be so overwhelmed that I would not be effective. Not being effective is bothersome to me, so, I think that one should think carefully about their choices. Because I would be stressed out under that title, I believe it would not be safe for either my patients or collagues, so, I picked what I knew I can handle (and sometimes, I STILL wonder...). I would rather slice it to say that both, LPNs and RNs exist, so, rather than waste time with oneupmanship, I desperately want to collaborate to be an effective team.

    I always said that the language should change...it should not be worded as "Nurses and LPNs" because it seems to denote that LPNs are not nurses. I would rather hear it as LPNs and RNs, or as you mentioned "floor nurses" and "charge/head nurses" as not to single out even the thought that LPNs are not nurses. Just because I didn't opt to become an RN does not make me a cop out or less than or not ambitious. I admit to my personal limitations because they are too strong for me to be effective in that role. Too many distractions for me and that, I believe is not safe or brings positive outcomes to the patient or the health care team.

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    Quote from ohmeowzer RN
    thats the first time i have heard that... a cna is a assistant a LPN is considered a professional... CNA's are not considered in the professional catagory.. you can't compare the 2...
    I don't know if the LPN can be considered as a professional...maybe a vocation, but, I remember hearing that only BSNs and above are considered to be professionals.

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    Fiona59 likes this.

    Sometimes, LPNs get this even from RNs. I remember a discussion a few years ago where an RN stated "She isn't a nurse...she is an LPN"...duh?? Or, we hear "The Nurses and the LPNs"...etc... Sometimes, you gotta sigh and keep it moving.

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    Quote from BEDPAN76
    Avon sells the rocker-bottoms also. One of our nurses got them. She said she woke up in the am without hip or back pain! The commercial for the Skechers looks good and I think I'll go ahead and get some this payday!

    If you are talking about the Sketchers Shape Ups, they are WONDERFUL!! I got a white pair for work, black for home and they even made sandals---got those in dark brown. Worth the money to me!!

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    Oz2 and Lovely_RN like this.

    This is nothing new. I graduated from the first LPN program my community college offered. Because this was a new program, they did not have enough clinical instructors and the director had to hire whoever she could. Most of these CIs had other jobs and would arrive late and wanted to leave early to be at work the following day. Then, many times, clinical was cancelled at the last minute. Also, some of the clinical instructors did not want to break their necks to supervise us, so, we only had one patient at a time and if there wasn't anyone around that needed IV care, then, that sucked for us.

    I always believed that the diploma programs were better because the ones in my area (from what I was told), had weeks of clinicals a time and made sure that both, skills and critical thinking happened. They increased the number of patients each semester, so, many of them were prepared to take a full load soon after graduation.

    I blame the schools because while it is important to ensure that they obtain students with great grades, pounding them with theories about Nightingale do nothing for us in the real world when we are expected to perform.

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    systoly, SuesquatchRN, canoehead, and 1 other like this.

    I echo what others are saying and want to add to never let people know that you are planning or working a second job...that can be a sure way to sabatoge you. She can say that you don't commit yourself totally because you have other obligations to a different facility or even translate that you decided not to come because you had a better offer.

    I do believe your DON is a nut case. But, to be safe, keep people in the dark about what you do on your own time. Gives them less to hold over your head.

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    Indy likes this.

    I hate when that happens. Or, I get the comments that "Well, you are going for your RN, aren't you?" Or, when do I plan to be a nurse and I tell them I already am.

    I admit to everyone that I am proud to be an LPN and have no intention of becoming an RN. To do so would be only from peer pressure, not my true desire. Lately, I have made it my business to say that I am a Licensed Practical Nurse (with great emphasis) because when I get through with teaching, caring and performing my skills, I want them to know that LPNs are competent, knowledgable nurses as well. I am a task oriented person who does wish to focus more on the nursing skills than paperwork. I am observant, I continue to read and update myself on as much as I can so that I can improve my practice. I made a careful decision when I chose which nurse I wanted to be and have no regrets.

    If a person asks me in a respectable way, I mention some of why, but those who are rude and condescending...well, they get what they get. Be proud of your accomplishments because you WILL be a NURSE soon!

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    Moogie likes this.

    Moogie, I would love to have you as an instructor or mentor. You sound like a very logical person.

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    Mariposa2009 likes this.

    I think that if your collagues are respectful and are willing to teach, stay while looking for other opportunities. I have learned from experience that sometimes, the grass looks greener on the other side. I have seen many people never land to med-surg and go straight to specialties while others have done the traditional year of med-surg. It depends on what the other place is looking for, I guess...some don't mind if you have less than a year, while others want that year. And, I agree, take advantage of all learning opportunities when they arise. Tell your co-workers to inform you of things you aren't familiar with. I did that in my clinic (I was not bored, though). I told them to please get me for the unusual, and believe me, they do!

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    If we can respect each other as a team, no matter what the titles, it is a safer environment for both, the patients as well as the staff. You are very fortunate!

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    I don't have facts, but my observations tell me that it doesn't seem to matter if it is ADN or BSN, it is that many hospitals are laying off, some are even closing. Also, it seems that because there is not much time or financial resources to orient people, they want people with experience who can run right into the trenches.

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    It may be (depending on the facility), that if you had a previous position, it counts as senority for that hospital, nursing home (and this usually happens in union hospitals), but it doesn't count for experience in the new title. Under those circumstances, if there were a lay off, a new grad LPN who has worked 10 years as a CNA would have more consideration and would probably escape the lay off compared to another LPN who was employed as an LPN for 6 years because of the combined seniority. However, a new LPN is a new LPN and should be treated as such. Hopefully, it would mean a more comprehensive orientation, longer preceptorship, etc (but that may not happen, either).

    CNA-LPN-RN all fall under the umbrella of nursing, but there are different scopes of practice in each step. Many LPN duties blend with RN duties, but, the deal is that the RN has a higher license, thus, should have more responsibility, and again, should be treated as a new grad if she starts, even if she worked as an LPN in the same place. She worked in the same place, but did not have the same responsibility and accountability (even though she worked along side and saw what RNs do).


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