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hidesert, ASN, BSN, MSN, RN 1,750 Views

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    PS - I also totally believe that life experiences make us better nurses: being a mom, having worked in the food industry and gaming industry, having worked in a doctor's office as an assistant and surgery scheduler and first assist for many years, etc.

    Working for docs whom I admired and respected prevented my from having that "Us vs. the Docs" mentality that a lot of nurses seem to have, as well...

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    I graduated at 49, got my BSN at 55 and start my MSN at 57 (this fall) prob for an ANP degree, by then I will have 5 degrees. I love school, obviously, and I love being a nurse. What I do see is that my age-peers are burnt out, and I am not, since I've only be a nurse for 8 yrs. Another plus is that pts trusted me right off the bat, bc they presume I've been a nurse "forever"

    Good luck with school. I found my memory was worse and my study skills and drive were much better!

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    martinalpn and TiddlDwink like this.

    Unless I was really impossibly miserable at a job, I would not leave after less than a year. Mostly because I think it looks really bad on a resume and I would have a hard time explaining that to a new employer. If there is a systems problem, perhaps you can talk to your nurse manager or work on a process improvement project to fix what is bothering you, if it's something that can be fixed.[/QUOTE]

    I must agree with this. I would try to stick it out, at least six months. I know that something like 1/3 of new grads change jobs the first year, but in any job, it still looks iffy on that next resume attempt. No matter the reason. They want to keep you, so give them a chance to help you fix the problems so you could decide to stay there. Then at least they (and you) know you have tried.
    Also, even though it is illegal in most places to gossip about an former employee to a prospective employer, people still do it, off the record. Preserve your reputation. It is important in this field. Good luck to you. Nursing is difficult and worth it.

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    sharpeimom likes this.

    toradol is great stuff, sort of a compromise betw tylenol and narcotics, in my mind, anyway.
    i worked in oncology and critical care for seven years and now at the va, and veterans for the most part hate to take pain meds. they are tough guys and at heart do not want to ever admit weakness, exp to women of any age, and i do a lot of pain education. here is what i know to be true:
    research tells us that less than 1% of people who need pain meds for acute pain become addicted to them, and those 1% generally tend to be people who have had addictions already. that said it is unethical to withold pain meds from a pt who needs them, addict or not. (try telling this to a resident sometime ...)
    anyway, my little pain talk includes the information that if pain is under control, they will sleep better, breathe better, move better, use the is better and use their healing energy to get well - rather than dealing with the stress of the pain, which is their body's first concern. i know somebody already touched on this and it is true. i also remind them it is easier to control pain at a constant 3-4/10 rather than letting it get to a crisis of 11/10 and trying to bring it down. severe pain is scary and i have been there. good luck.
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    It seems that a discussion about the quality of a CC nursing degree is difficult to separate from the ADN/BSN controversy. Otherwise how would we rate the ADN degree; to what would we compare it ?

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    "In being able to take into account the "big picture" instead of being task oriented, given the same patient and same resources, what exactly gets done by the BSN trained nurse that doesn't get done by the ADN trained nurse? Where in the course of care does your interventions and actions differ from that of an ADN trained nurse?"

    Yeah, I wonder the same question, myself. Floor nursing IS task oriented. Supervising and being charge are more, and managing a unit is even more. Lots of ADN nurses make great bosses and some of the BSN nurses are terrible at it ( actual experience with this one )
    Also, as has been probably pointed out already, the amount of credits I took to get my ADN and my previous degrees put me way ahead of a simple BSN program, with much more scope. It is all in the performance and the outcomes, and what kind of people we are, I think... And it is nice to see nurses encouraging each other to get as much education as they possibly can, including certifications. It is all valuable, always.

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    UM, that may be true of some ADNs, but not even half, in my experience. It prob relates to their previous work/life experience and their age. Most RNs I know are able to think globally and collegiately whether they have a 2 or 4yr degree. Just my opinion.

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    When I got my RN, I went to CC for time/cost and they also had a higher pass rate on NCLEX than the university, and they did for several years. (I have not looked recently.) I worked in a doctor's office and a hospital, and asked every nurse and MD I knew what they recommended, and they all said the RNs from CC were better than from the 4yr program. One doc told me that in a couple of years, he could tell no difference, but the new grads from CC were way better.

    Then I did an online RN>BSN program and worked very hard. My GPA was within .03 of my RN GPA and my previous degree as well, so I feel pretty good about that. It was not a piece of cake and I worked as hard as I ever do, so I totally feel I earned that BSN & GPA, and it was not a diploma mill, as some educational snobs might think

    I think school is what it is, and we learn SO much more after graduation, while we are working--- to me, this is how and when I learned to be a nurse. Good mentors, great managers and loving my job are the best ways for me.

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    Furjenya Gal, Kevin RN08, and dcgrrl like this.

    Here is my advice- keep at it. I was 50 when I got my RN. Most pts and families (and some doctors) just assume I have been a nurse forever. ALso all the pre nursing life experiences I've had made me a much better nurse. I don't freak out at stuff like the young RNs and I don't get caught up in the drama and gossip the way we did when we were in our 20s.
    My memory is a bit worse, but I have tricks to help me, and I do get tired at a 12hr shift, but I did that when I was a young mom with a baby and two jobs also. GOOD LUCK

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    MissMcCoy and misket like this.

    Quote from Wan2BRN
    I am still young, 25, but need some stories of encouragment. I have a 2 yo son and am due with my 2nd little one in December. I am registered for fall classes at my local college and will continue to take my pre-req's until I am done. I always kick myself in the butt though for not getting right in after high school graduation and taking my classes seriously; I was definately a slacker and can't afford to be that anymore. I have always wanted to be a nurse and can't imagine myself anywhere else.

    So I am curious to know the stories, as I am sure they will be encouraging, at what age did you decide to start taking classes to become an RN? Did you have children? etc.

    Thank you.
    I wanted to go for most of my life, with a few side trips (one in the medical field)
    took 16 yrs to do prereqs and went to school at 46. KEEP going, if you want it you will get there. Cannot believe I haev been a nurse for six years now, and I am not burnt out as are some of the older nurses where I work.

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    PS if the patient cannot hang the arm off the bed, sometimes just elevating the head of the bad 20 or 30 degrees really helps too.

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    In oncology I learned to hang the arm off the side of the bed for a few minutes and even better is to wrap the arms in warm blankets 10-15 mins, while they are hanging it off the bed too is great. Also tying the tourniquet and then setting up my tape, alcohol sponge or whatever, flush, talk to the patient, then the tourniquet is on for a couple of minutes. Remember that in ortho surgery they can keep a tourniquet on a limb for a very long time (like an hour) so a few extra minutes will not harm your patient.

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    Katie5 likes this.

    YES YES this is so good. Also included would be a video camera and the scenarios could be videotaped so we could see ourselves as others see us. I am guilty of coming across one way when I mean something to sound a certain way, and it puts people off. I work on this all the time. It is a hard thing and as nurses we always think we are right haha so imagine how that comes across !

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    WOW that is a great idea. Yes a lot of my fellow students were very young and really had not worked out in the world, much. They went right into nursing school from HS and this class would be so great. And yes and older person could also learn from it- you are so right !

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    Goldenhare and sharpeimom like this.

    I agree with the post who said new grads should not go into ICU.
    I work in ICU and there are nurses around here who have never worked anywhere else and they have NO clue what a floor nurse contends with. They only know they did not like the floor in clinicals and they found a facility which would hire them right into ICU. This does not make them a better nurse, than the one who did the ground work on the floor. But a lot of them think it does make them superior if they never worked on the floor. I am not being judgmental because a lot of them are excellent critical care nurses. I just see some who think they are better than everyone else.


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