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Jean Marie - This is the link you need for the L1 Enrollment
https://fl.ibtfingerprint.com/ (for appointment and in here you are going to click on All others and use this for the number to assign for the results If you have your Livescan done on or after January 1, 2013, use the new
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/bac...nt-form-fd-258 (here are the print cards you can print and take it to your local police department for finger printing manually) or email them at this address to recommend hard copies of the finger prints: firstname.lastname@example.org
Instructions for out of state people
I totally agree with Alison....dont make the same mistake like a lot of us have...at least I see it in my cohort. I was also in Finance/BA before I joined nursing school. Our school takes about 300 students each semester, yes each semester! Most of us are ABSN and like 30% are traditional students. Out of 300, about 40% have gained employment and we all graduated in May of 2012. And the rest of us are struggling to get jobs. I kid you not, last week I went to a few hospitals in my area and met some recruiters and all they could say is, we are not hiring nurses, we have hiring freeze, or we need x amount of yrs of experience. It was depressing because it seemed as if I was begging for a job. The sad thing is that a lot of the schools want to make money and not give us enough clinical experience that we need to get into the work force. You know in hospitals, it cost about 30K+ to train each new grad..yes $30,000 and more to train a new grad. Due to the high costs, hospitals are not hiring new grads that quickly. The people who graduated in May 2012, are getting jobs now in Dec/Jan time..which is about 6 months out...so yeah its definitely is a tough market. I do not believe there is a shortage out there right now and it might be later on but I think the only way positions open up is if they cut out the ADN programs (that will never happen cause cc are all government owned) or they get rid of LPNs which probably wont happen anytime soon. And also they need to stop bringing in international nurses in this country. And also most of us are in serious college debt...in my case I have $150k in debt and I will have to probably do my masters just so I can stay in school and get more skills. Keep in mind that if you do go to school for nursing, make sure that your school has solid preceptorship/clinical set up for you to be trained and they have a good job placement. Also start as a cna while you are in school so once you have a RN, you can get a RN position in that hospital. Also the NCLEX is definitely getting harder as they are saying...so I think the passing rate will drop. The other thing to keep in mind is that if you want to become a NP, you have to do a DNP degree to sit for the NP boards and that is about a 3-4 yr program. SO lots of changes happening in the industry...
Paid NY state their money, paid Pearsonvue $200 and within a few days, I got my ATT...did you pay the NY state and pearsonvue money?
So today I called them up and I told them that I really need my license cause I need to find a job. I am unemployed, need money badly and have a ton of student loans, please help me...I even said, I am begging you to please process my license. Guess what, today they released my number and I will have the paper license in 7-10 days and they gave me my number on the phone. I started the process on Dec 19 and I got the number today on Feb 11. Its all about persistent and having faith in God!!
Hate to be negative, but I think nursing field is tough to get jobs in...I myself graduate in May 2012 with a BSN from a really good school in NY and still cant find a job its really tough out there! So definitely rethink your decision before you go into it..best of luck!!
Marie - Thanks so much for the info! So I did call local places in my area for Livescan and the way it works is that you go in and do it electronically but the results are only sent to the state they are done in. They are not able to send it to other states..trust me, I called at least 5 places and they said the same that they can send it to places locally the livescan. So L1 Enrollment takes the hard copy and sends it to Florida and thats for out of state people. I even called a place in Ohio that said, send the hard copy, they transfer it to livescan and then send it to florida and that process was like over $200...so yeah you have to do livescan in the state itself to send the results in that state, not out of state. I, myself, find the process to be weird but thats how they are done unfortunately
Florida is a pain in the ass to work with...I also had sent in my application on Dec 19, did the verification with nursys, and now 2 more things left to do, Finger Printing and the Medical Errors course. First Florida told me that I must do my finger printing in their state and I cant get to it which is ridiculous and then later they put a link up on their site for out of state endorses like ourselves. So I need to connect with L1 Enrollment services where I need to get the physical finger printing done at a police station and then mail them the cards and then they process it or send the livescan to Florida. But the fee to L1 is about $77...
So someone here said that they did the same process and it didnt work? is that correct?
Its a tough hospital to get a job....I have spoken to the DON, the ASDON, been to their office and still they are saying, that they are not hiring and have a waiting list. But we also heard the same story from the DON last April when they came to recruit..so who knows whats going on with the hospital. All I can is that its tough getting a position in a hospital in the NYC area and God only knows when I will get a job. But honestly, I am ok with anything at this point and even getting anything is not easy. Good luck on your interviews at Maimo.
In NJ, the endorsement takes 8-10 weeks...I applied Dec 19 and still have not received it and I keep calling them and they say be patient..yeah right! so it does take a while...good you started the process now! good luck
BTW what is PSA? is that just in Florida or other parts of the country?
I think times have changed...you dont necessarily need to have clinical experience to become a case manager. It also depends on the setting of a CM. For example, you can go into workers comp or work with other insurance companies who need CM. As it is, its tough getting jobs as a new grad. If you have a business background like I do, have worked in corporate for 10 yrs, I think I would be a good fit for CM. Its an old school thinking that a new grad must work in a hospital before they do anything else out in the field. If you cant get anything in a hospital and you have an opportunity to work as a CM or LTC or Home care, might as well take the job, get experience and move forward. I am tired of constantly people trying to grill in our heads, Oh you must work in an acute setting before you do anything else...if you have a background in something that can help you be a better nurse in another area, then definitely apply. I am getting more calls to do CM or Home health care jobs vs. hospitals. And to be honest, I am not too keen about bedside nursing. I like the business/problem solving side of it and probably will go off and go into technology/informatics because thats been my background. Good luck and do not give up...
My best advice is to rethink why you want to become a nurse and are you going to be able to pay off the loans. Just like yourself, I did my BS in Business and I started to do my pre-reqs in 2005-2006....finally I got into a ABSN program in 2011 and graduated in May of 2012. Currently, I am in 150k student loan debt..yup you got it, $150,000 in student loans. $40k for my previous degree and $110k for the ABSN. I went to a decent private university here in NYC and I still do not have a job. Its really hard to get jobs and now I am considering going back to school for my MSN, either this year or next yr simply because I cant get a job and there is a lot of competition. I wish I had become a nurse 5 yrs ago because at that time, jobs were easier to get vs. now. Before I went to get my ABSN, I had a decent job, decent pay but was laid off. And all i could think about is going back to school because I started to take my pre-reqs a while back. I dont regret it but really am upset that I am still jobless...so yes its hard getting jobs and yes, the pay is not so great and yes, loans are insanely high. So definitely think about it and make the right decision for yourself. Good luck!
First of all, I do think that schools are cashing on the idea of nursing shortage and in fact there isnt any at this time. Second, as a society we are responsible for allowing the schools to keep increasing their costs of education. The school I went to for BSN is all for profit and I had no idea that they actually graduate about 250-300 students per semester, yes, that many students a semester. They know people are desperate and they will shell out $100k per student. But to be honest, I wanted to become a nurse 6-7 yrs back but could not get into a school and then I was laid off from work and went back into the field of nursing and thank God I got into an accelerated program. I was ok paying the money but didnt realize how stupid the program was..they barely taught us skills ( I did all my homework before going to the school except for finding out how much clinical hours they gave us cause i assumed that every school MUST give x amount of hours per student).
Now being in $150k (loans from before and loans from the nursing degree) debt, I am having a hard time getting a job. Unfortunately, i am a new graduate with a lot of finance/accounting experience, with volunteer experience, have lots and lots of certifications under my belt (I had to shell out a ton of money for that) and I am open to relocating. Now keep in mind, getting a license in different states cost about $300-$400 (license fee, license verification, electronic finger printing, taking extra courses) and then you have to maintain that license even if you decide not to use it...I mean come on, everyone wants to cash on this b.s that there is a shortage of nurses..
Schools want to make money, the government agencies want to make money, certifications/license organizations want to make money...there is absolutely no cap for this. I do believe that the schools need to take a limited amount of students in their programs and I do believe that they need to have a cap of how much they can charge. BTW I must point out that I had a ton of people in my program that were there for wrong reasons (financial stability, security, ok understandable) but those people will not last long in the profession because you do need to be compassionate. And these students are picky about their first jobs..stuck on the idea of working in the hospital their first year which shouldnt matter cause right now, you need experience, anywhere you can get.
I, myself, am open to jobs at LTCs, Home health, community nursing, hospitals, anything, I am open and I want experience. Heck I will work for whatever pay..i just want a job and experience so I can pay my loans. And yes I do believe schools are responsible as well as us students/nurses.
People need to stop promoting nursing and telling people to go become a nurse cause there is NO NURSING SHORTAGE!!! a ton of us graduated with a BSN from a top school last May 2012, and still can not find a job...its really sad and scary cause we have a ton of loans to pay off!!
I totally agree with greentealover....I used the same strategies. Iluvnursing07: I failed the first time and the second time I took it 2 days back and got the good pop up. By all means, I am not the smartest kid out there but for me to achieve things in life, I have to work extra hard than others. Trust me, I struggled through out the process but I did not give up on myself and I did not give up on God. So if I can do it, so can you! If you need any help, I would be happy to help you! Please message me your email address and I can email you information as well as the materials I used. And we can also assess what you are having trouble with...Wish you all the best and praying for your success!! and remember you are not alone..we are all here with you and been through it not once but many times!
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