malamud69 10,889 Views
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I agree. And with the rate of relapse being what it is, how can they regulate or monitor efficacy? A person who is ready to get sober could go to the state detox, with a rat for a roommate. Someone who isn't ready to get sober could go to the Betty Ford clinic and relapse immediately. Such inexact science with variable outcomes and everything in the world hinging on completion.
For those of you paying tons of cash for all the tests, therapists. rehab etc..... All of these are 100% deductible medical expenses on your income tax save those receipts
Sounds like Xanadu! Longest I've ever gone is 14. Average is every 10.
Sounds reasonable to me! I'm flying under rhe radar...counting the check ins...P...and definately "put" my life on hold...its an endurance challenge at this stage! It's my choice not theirs and don't get me wrong...I'm living! Alive! Free! Why? Because I know the truth...onward.
I'm in Indiana and mine are free. I'm required to attend 12 NA and/or nurse support groups a month.
and I can't believe they charge for a support group in some states!!! ridiculous!
I've already been picked SEVEN times in a 2 week period. I was fuming!
to continue...in other words any thinking person knows that "substance abuse disorder" is quackery of the highest order...people "cope" in an unlimited amount of ways...all personal and all individual...some "healthy" some not...the fact that a group of scum...bags...has capitalized monetarily on people's discomfort is simply the American healthcare model...
I wish x1000 that more states legitimately distinguished between mental health and substance abuse participants. That can go so very far in terms of the nurse support groups actually being supportive (instead of like me, being the lone mental health participant in a room full of folks with substance use issues.) and in terms of this not feeling like punishment. When one is dealing with substance use disorder the goal (however you may get there) is a life in recovery. Correct? For those of us with mental health diagnoses, cramming the notion of ‘recovery' down our throats is demeaning and insulting. Bipolar or depression, etc are illnesses to be managed, not recover from.
Sadly, there is too much about many of these programs (and the associated evaluators and treatment facilities) that is money driven. Substance abuse diagnoses are financially lucrative, mental health, not so much. When you have no ethics or concious about the lives you are ruining, that matters.
The real question...which I never even get a sane response to...is why in the name of science can't we check in the day before? At least people could plan...oh wait that would be logical and far from the scope these programs offer...the science of testing would not be affected at all...oops...sorry again...science? Evidence based? What was I thinking! Money money money money...that's more like it!
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