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  • Dec 10

    Well...wether you drink that "kool-aide" or the stuff that comes with the equally disgraceful ads for rehab facilities is of no concern...as a number you are simply expected to spend money...

  • Dec 8

    Well...wether you drink that "kool-aide" or the stuff that comes with the equally disgraceful ads for rehab facilities is of no concern...as a number you are simply expected to spend money...

  • Dec 4

    Sad and disrespectful that we are coerced into going to what amounts to nothing more than ruminations on junk science with religious hokum abounding! The so called "recovery" movement literally side steps the centuries of psychological scientific inquiry for ease of use and quite frankly a laziness that if anything simply reflects the horrific state of our medical system at large.

  • Nov 8

    Quote from subee
    It has been 4 years since I had good access into current research but remember that 2 separate studies confirmed that 5 years out of initial tx. provedto be the most common time for relapse. Hence why some states requires 5 years participation in monitoring programs. So many participants were victims of sexyal abuse and these problems aren't resolved in a mere 2 years.
    Please show me the actual "scientific" data from a study that is not created by the 12 step industrial complex! Please! Those numbers mean nothing...lets see what the JAMA and/or the Lancet shows

  • Nov 8

    Quote from SpankedInPittsburgh
    Damn right it counts!!! You self-reported a year ago and got yourself in a monitoring-program friendly jab that you have been practicing safely in for over a year. Of course I have no idea how the super-geniuses who actually run the cookie cutter are gonna react to this. Them forcing you into a position to go to rehab / lose your job or whatever would simply be spiteful after all this clean time and successful employment. However, you doing the right thing and acting responsibility counts if not to anybody else then to you. I'll pray that things go well for you
    Oh...c'mon now...where I come from the "magic" number they randomly choose is 2 years of "clean time" (would they count this if people didn't bathe???) Certainly I will need many hot showers to wash away the disgust associated with this abomination

  • Nov 6

    Quote from catsmeow1972
    Statistics can be manipulated to say anything you want. I'll say it again. Forced recovery is not recovery. These programs are nothing like what they used to be. Now they do more harm than good
    I am bipolar. Wanna tell me how sitting in AA meetings is gonna help that? I'm glad this stuff helped you or you know people who it helped. Great. I any many more I know have been hurt. There. We're even.
    Sitting in AA meetings actually helps very few people...actual science proves this...oh wait...we can't talk about evidence based practice...can we? It goes against the illogical grain these hokum programs use as a money grab...never drink the kool aide

  • Nov 5

    Quote from catsmeow1972
    Statistics can be manipulated to say anything you want. I'll say it again. Forced recovery is not recovery. These programs are nothing like what they used to be. Now they do more harm than good
    I am bipolar. Wanna tell me how sitting in AA meetings is gonna help that? I'm glad this stuff helped you or you know people who it helped. Great. I any many more I know have been hurt. There. We're even.
    Sitting in AA meetings actually helps very few people...actual science proves this...oh wait...we can't talk about evidence based practice...can we? It goes against the illogical grain these hokum programs use as a money grab...never drink the kool aide

  • Nov 4

    Quote from SpankedInPittsburgh
    Damn right it counts!!! You self-reported a year ago and got yourself in a monitoring-program friendly jab that you have been practicing safely in for over a year. Of course I have no idea how the super-geniuses who actually run the cookie cutter are gonna react to this. Them forcing you into a position to go to rehab / lose your job or whatever would simply be spiteful after all this clean time and successful employment. However, you doing the right thing and acting responsibility counts if not to anybody else then to you. I'll pray that things go well for you
    Oh...c'mon now...where I come from the "magic" number they randomly choose is 2 years of "clean time" (would they count this if people didn't bathe???) Certainly I will need many hot showers to wash away the disgust associated with this abomination

  • Nov 4

    Quote from SpankedInPittsburgh
    Damn right it counts!!! You self-reported a year ago and got yourself in a monitoring-program friendly jab that you have been practicing safely in for over a year. Of course I have no idea how the super-geniuses who actually run the cookie cutter are gonna react to this. Them forcing you into a position to go to rehab / lose your job or whatever would simply be spiteful after all this clean time and successful employment. However, you doing the right thing and acting responsibility counts if not to anybody else then to you. I'll pray that things go well for you
    Oh...c'mon now...where I come from the "magic" number they randomly choose is 2 years of "clean time" (would they count this if people didn't bathe???) Certainly I will need many hot showers to wash away the disgust associated with this abomination

  • Nov 4

    Quote from SpankedInPittsburgh
    Damn right it counts!!! You self-reported a year ago and got yourself in a monitoring-program friendly jab that you have been practicing safely in for over a year. Of course I have no idea how the super-geniuses who actually run the cookie cutter are gonna react to this. Them forcing you into a position to go to rehab / lose your job or whatever would simply be spiteful after all this clean time and successful employment. However, you doing the right thing and acting responsibility counts if not to anybody else then to you. I'll pray that things go well for you
    Oh...c'mon now...where I come from the "magic" number they randomly choose is 2 years of "clean time" (would they count this if people didn't bathe???) Certainly I will need many hot showers to wash away the disgust associated with this abomination

  • Nov 3

    We are not addressing the underlying issues...our healthcare system is reactive not preventative...the industry wants and keeps people ill...its very lucrative. The extension of this tragedy known as the "rehab industry" or whatever you want to call it is no different...all humans...whatever the illness are numbers in a financial ledger in corporate america...don't ever make the mistake of seeing it any other way...

  • Nov 1

    Why would you think anything else about for-profit, corporate america??? Being that we are all nothing more than numbers on a ledger to these despicable characters must come at no surprise to you...

  • Oct 26

    Quote from catsmeow1972
    Statistics can be manipulated to say anything you want. I'll say it again. Forced recovery is not recovery. These programs are nothing like what they used to be. Now they do more harm than good
    I am bipolar. Wanna tell me how sitting in AA meetings is gonna help that? I'm glad this stuff helped you or you know people who it helped. Great. I any many more I know have been hurt. There. We're even.
    Sitting in AA meetings actually helps very few people...actual science proves this...oh wait...we can't talk about evidence based practice...can we? It goes against the illogical grain these hokum programs use as a money grab...never drink the kool aide

  • Oct 26

    Quote from catsmeow1972
    Statistics can be manipulated to say anything you want. I'll say it again. Forced recovery is not recovery. These programs are nothing like what they used to be. Now they do more harm than good
    I am bipolar. Wanna tell me how sitting in AA meetings is gonna help that? I'm glad this stuff helped you or you know people who it helped. Great. I any many more I know have been hurt. There. We're even.
    Sitting in AA meetings actually helps very few people...actual science proves this...oh wait...we can't talk about evidence based practice...can we? It goes against the illogical grain these hokum programs use as a money grab...never drink the kool aide

  • Oct 24

    A lot of posts have been about being checked... can they check your attendance...or is anybody looking at your attendance excetera excetera excetera...its completely against the "anonymity" hogwash literally "preached" at these snake oil lemonade stands...play the game and never submit to the abhorrent hypocrisy.


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