HighPursuit23 2,192 Views
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I went to Olivet for Nursing but not for FNP, I thought the teachers were really good. They really do care about you and will work with you despite their busy schedules. They also have a really good pass rate for the traditional BSN program. Hope this helps some
Are there any cna's here going for an LPN or an RN degree ? If so , what do you think about it ? And what about online courses ? Can you really take online courses and them prove to be effective in the long run ? As I am all up for online courses , but if I take them I want to be able to actually get a job !!
Yesterday in class, we learned that CNA's can empty & measure the contents of the colostomy bag BUT a NURSE must be the one to actually CHANGE the bag.
Hope this helps!
In my facility, CNAs empty and rinse out the bag, but putting on a new bag or irrigating the stoma is done by a nurse.
I think CNAs can only empty/measure the contents of colostomy bags. As far as changing it--I wouldn't. Whether by law I can or not--I haven't been trained to do so.
I hear some CNAs get extra training from their employers and do more invasive procedures...but I'm not one of those. That stuff is for the nurses right now!
As a CNA I do ADLs: feeding, bathing, dressing..etc, etc. I do vitals, I&O...pretty basic stuff!!
I moved out of the area, but I completed my ADN at a community college in southern Illinois. Just finished in May '13.
Yea we're all in the same boat. If you do go with Olivet, DO NOT take pathophysiology through the college. There is a self-paced course through the university of northern colorado that is much easier.
It seems to me there are a lot of people out there that are upst that they spent tons of money for a higher education only to find out that most if not all employeers want experience over a over educated nurse. For the person who thinks they should make more than me just because they decided they "needed" a BSN, well get a life! All hospitals, at least the decent ones, have a pay scale structure based on years of experience and not necessarily a education level. Yes, there are those that might get a bit more because of their higher level of education but not much. In any industry out there there will always be a pay structure based on your experience, period. Plumbers, teachers, firemen, etc all start out at the bottom and work their way up through years of just working. Just for your info I have 36 years of experince and the only ones who should make as much as I are the ones who have 30+ doing the same job. I am at the top of the pay scale at 53.84/hr. Most of you are just bitter and upset at the fact you will have many years of student loans whereas I have Nada! Get a grip, work hard and the rewards will pay off.
Also to the guy above complaining about the ongoing "debate". There is no debate only the constant, ongoing whinning by a number of people still upset that their BSN isn't paying off now. Instead of complaining about ADNs not being "real" professional nurses maybe you should direct your anger at all the so-called "nursing schools" outside of this country churnning out inadequate nurses to take jobs from native trained RNs. Nurses in general better wake up to the strangle hold these foreign nurses are putting on nursing in this country. I don't really care that they pass a test to work here, stay in your own country where you are needed. There IS NO NEED TO IMPORT NURSES from any country.
As a former employee of ITT, I can tell you that ITT credits will only transfer to another ITT campus, that's it. If you go to ITT for a 4 year degree you will be in debt around $90,000 when you graduate. This will be from Stafford loans and private loans at a high rate of interest that you will have to take out when you max out all the government backed loans. The aggregate (lifetime limit) amount of Stafford loans for an independent undergrad student is $57,500.
The education is substandard. Check it out here: My ITT Experience
Just DON'T DO IT! ITT has ruined many many students' lives!
Believe what you will, but I've read an overwhelming amount of negative things about ITT's nursing program. The cost is absolutely ridiculous. Most of the people who go to these schools do so because they can't get accepted into an established program or are looking for a quick way to get done. I was almost rooked in to going to this so-called school because of the lure of no waiting list, no admissions standards (other than an easy exam). The "academic advisors" (aka salespersons) put so much pressure on me to spend 6 times the amount of the same education at a large, well-know state university. So, go ahead and go into debt for substandard training. Be my guest. Best of luck to you. We'll just see who goes on to a career further down the road. Good luck ever trying to get in to a graduate program!
ITT is a "for-profit" school that is only in business to make money for shareholders. Their educational standards have been proven to be low and their credits will not transfer any where, sometimes not even to another ITT campus.
Their tuition is round $20,000 for one academic year which is three quarters. They operate by getting students on Federal student financial aid, Pell grant and Stafford loans, although these will in no way cover the full cost so at some point you will have to take out some high-interest private loans. As well, your loan aggregate amount for an independent student is $57,500 while a Bachelor degree cost is $80,000. You will have to either get private loans or pay cash to cover the difference.
ITT has been and is currently embroiled in many lawsuits and investigations by the Department of Justice, the Department of Education, the SEC, the Governmental Accountability Office, as well as many former employees and students for fraud.
Please do some research before you ruin your life. Start here:
ITT Technical Institute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
My ITT Experience
ITT grads claim deception in lawsuit - Houston Chronicle
ITT Educational Services, Inc. Under Long Term Investor Investigation | Shareholders Foundation
You should also check their NLN accreditation status, it can affect whether or not you'll be able to get work after your training. I do know that ITT's Bessemer. AL campus was denied accreditation in 2012.
So far the program is going well and as expected. Right now Im taking all the fluff classes (theories, Statistics,Ethics etc.). Tons of paper writing and APA formatting. Our primary classes such as health assessment, Path-physiology and Pharmacology is in class on campus. These classes I would prefer to take in classes because they are your primary classes you need to focus on to pass the boards. As for as the Curriculum, I have compare Olivet's with other schools as well ( i.e. Depaul University) and feel we are on the same course of actions. If its anything that would be a challenge, is finding your own preceptor for your clinicals. At the end of the day, I am a firm believer that school is whatever you make it to be. I hope this helps ; )
i still have to do my cna course but im going to do that this summer and be ready for next year hopefully!
Olivet's program is really expensive & everyone that attends it has to take out private student loans b/c the amount they charge is over what federal student loans allow per semester.
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