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    jadelpn, gummi bear, gatoraims RN, and 1 other like this.

    Well, from someone who has been: nurses' aide, LPN, ADN, BSN, and hopes to be NP, here is what I have to say:

    Critical thinking is a skill that some bright LPN and nurse techs/MA just POSSESS. They do not need to be taught to think critically. They have the innate intelligence to do so, after being in a clinical environment. And their ability to do so will make them a fab employee. They WILL be great eyes and ears for the RN. An integral part of the team. We all know it when we have a great LPN or aide working with us.

    Let's face it: there are both great RNs, and crap RNs, and there are GREAT LPNs and aides, and crap ones.The only difference is EDUCATION and SCOPE OF PRACTICE. And that is PURELY the difference in pay, which is as it should be.

    Doctors generally make "doctor" pay, whether they are good or bad. It is the investment in the degree. And a higher level of expectation/responsibility.

    LPNs are NOT the same as RNs. Because it is a different degree. Plain and simple. All this arguing is stupid.

    I have furthered my education EVERY time I went back to school, meaning that I LEARNED things above and beyond whatever innate intelligence or skills I possessed before, not just that I got a piece of paper. Education is an investment, and it has value. And most importantly, it has meaning...i.e., a higher level of knowledge.

    As an LPN w many yrs of experience, and as an ADN with many more, I was humbled my my BSN. I realized there was a lot to learn.

    No matter who, or where, we are, we ALL have a lot to learn. I respect, and value, the LPNs and MA's I work with. Who knows, they may one day be a LEADER in my field, I NEVER forget that! If I can teach them anything, I WILL do so, gladly. They can then use that as they further their education, and I can certainly use their "help" in the meantime!

    It really is all about interpersonal skills and respect.

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    Yep, this is a sure sign you are getting an appropriate orientation.

    I have had both varieties. The difference is...amazing. Good for your institution, and good for you!


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    Quote from whitey_fisk
    So why is non disclosure viewed so heinously by employers? I view my work practices as ethically sound, and don't want to come across as "questionable" in any way. But, I REALLY want this why does it make me the bad guy to hide it? I am fully capable to perform the per diem job asked of me IMHO.

    p.s. thanks!

    I think per diem is PERFECT! I think for that position you should NOT feel like the bad guy for not disclosing.

    But full time is different, as outlined so well by another poster. B/c you KNOW you will out in a few months. It would be an awkward conversation w your manager.

    Go get your per diem position, don't disclose, have your baby, then apply full time when you (and baby!) are ready.


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    All things being equal, you will no doubt be a less attractive candidate. Unfair? Sure. But it's true b/c of all the things OPs have outlined.

    Staffing is a huge issue for managers. Hiring and training new employees is a huge expense, and they want a return on their investment.

    While I generally do not like to operate this way, I would say nothing about my pregnancy. And prn work is prob your best bet. You will feel less "guilty" about your non disclosure that way. And it will give you more flexibility.

    You will be able to "prove" yourself, and then apply for FT after baby is born. And CONGRATULATIONS!

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    SHGR likes this.

    APRNs are not physicians. No one ever said they were. APRNs function in their own scope of practice.

    Why are you letting this comment even get to you?

    As far as "no one but a doctor touching me", I hope she is never hospitalized, because the majority of people "touching" her and caring for her WILL BE NURSES.

    Maybe you can educate her about the scope and role of APRNs. Then, don't give it a second thought. Really.

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    Quote from itsnowornever
    As a SSG you would get booted from my platoon office in a heartbeat if you wear ACUs with NOTHING on them. You knew when you were commissioned that this day was coming and you should have ordered your own name tapes, flag and other items at that point. Name tapes are cheap, no reason to not jump the gun and get it. You should have also received your basic issue then. As far as PT...well, that should have been a requirement prior to commissioning also. No sympathy here. You wanna pass the PT test? You train for your test the same way you did your NCLEX...start the two mile run, sit ups and push ups. To get better on push ups, do 15 normal, 15 with your feet elevated, 15 with an empty back pack and 15 with 20lbs or more in the back pack, you will get there. Dont focus too much on ht/wt if you can pass the PT test you wont be taped. However, you need to get your uniform in order now. Call your supply sergeant, they should have your stuff.

    Going in there unprepared will only tell your troops that (a) you can't be trust in a war situation because you aren't prepared for basic drill and (b) you are no different than any other butter bar out there I'm not saying this is true at all, but bottom line is being a new officer is kinda worse than being a private. You dont know all the answers, but because you are an officer you are EXPECTED to, so there is a HIGH learning curve. They talk about newbies in the ER getting eaten alive, for officers, this is 10 times worse!! You can fix this, just get squared away, know your lane and learn everything you can.

    You dont want to give this information. It's hard enough for new officers without having this issue at hand. Square yourself away, call the supply sergeant and see if anyone in your area can make the tapes for you now.
    I know zip about the military, but that all made perfect sense to me! Good luck leekun!

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    Hoozdo, ♪♫ in my ♥, chevyv, and 2 others like this.

    Well, how about this one?

    The BURN UNIT. I have worked med surg, every kind of adult ICU, step down, but OMG, do NOT send me to the burn unit!!

    HOT HOT gowns and masks, several hrs long drsg changes, highly traumatized pts and families with v long therapy...

    My hat is off to burn nurses!

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    Quote from Cold Stethoscope
    Yay for nursing? Do you mean, Yay for not having union representation?
    Cold Stethoscope, and any others, I have been out the field for 12 yrs raising children. I returned two months ago. I am very interested in unionization, but know precious little about it.

    I am very interested in what it accomplishes, and how it would benefit nurses, and how the process works.

    I assume it addresses working conditions, pt. ratios., pay, etc.

    I often do not get the breaks that I am docked for, which is just plain B.S. But no one dares ever ask to get paid for this time. I suspect it would be blamed on poor time management!

    Our ratio is 6:1. I think 4:1 or 5:1 would provide pts w much better care, and enable us to take our much needed breaks.

    Any thoughts from others about unionization? Pt ratios? I am afraid with medicare cuts, it is going to just get worse for nurses.

    Don't mean to hijack this thread, but perhaps it addresses some of what the OP hates about nursing.

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    Don't even worry about this.

    You are still on orientation, and facilities usu. have a 90 day sort of "no fault" period where they can fire you, or you can resign, and no one is "penalized" in any way. You should not list this job on your resume. It's perfectly fine not to do so.

    I once worked a couple of weeks in the dialysis unit at my hospital. I realized I hated it. Went to my former nurse manager, and she gave me FANTASTIC advice. SHe told me to go ahead and let dialysis manager know it wasn't right for me, and I returned to med-surg. It truly was no big deal. THe manager where you are know has seen this situation plenty of times, I guarantee you. You are doing that manager a favor by not having her spend more $ orienting a nurse who hates it and will leave.

    It's just not a good fit. Don't beat yourself up. Go somewhere you can have some job satisfaction, don't be a martyr.

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    Why and how would being male affect your candidacy?

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    Not 100% sure about this, maybe others can chime in, but don't you have a 90 day "grace" or "probationary" period, where they may fire you, or you may leave, with no ramifications?

    Sometimes it's just not a good fit. For either side, for whatever reason.

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    ellienix05 and anotherone like this.

    I dislike original post for one reason.

    Do you think any med student sits around asking "Am I hot enough to be a med student?"

    Do you think any other "professional" , other than a model or actor, sits around asking this question??

    Let's take nursing out of the 1950's (or whatever), please. Assume the mantle of a PROFESSIONAL.

    Original post kind of makes me sick. No offense to original poster.

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    ceccia and afranklin like this.

    Yikes, this whole thread peeved me.

    I am on orientation, and have not gotten a break for two weeks now.

    Took lunch at 2p (b/c that's when cafeteria closes).

    So I worked thirty minutes for free! Yay for employer!

    It was not b/c I didn't want my break; believe me, if I weren't on orientation, I would have taken them. But my preceptor looked at me and asked "Have you charted your am assessments?" Basically saying that I didn't deserve a break. Rather than argue with her about the need to be hydrated and nourished and refreshed in order to better render care, I turned on my heels and went right back to work, Seven hrs. without stopping.

    What a crap culture.

    So when it's my turn to orient a new nurse, I will make sure she gets her breaks, which she is being docked for.

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    Quote from whichone'spink
    Thank you for the feedback. I am going to cancel the face-to-face interview. I am traveling from another state, and it would just be a waste of time and money. I am paying a lot for a hotel, and to go to a face-to-face interview with the deck stacked against me is just a waste.

    I have no job, I have no money, and I am running out of my savings. How could I screw up so badly?
    No way to answer this without knowing HOW you screwed up.

    But I detect a little panic in your voice, i.e., no money, running out of savings, no job...
    I would advise you to attend interview if it would not be an impossible burden, just for the interview experience. And you MAY surprise yourself at how you recover.

    If you can't make that happen, stop beating yourself up, and keep applying. Another opportunity will come along, and you will be far better prepared.

    Good luck, and Godspeed!

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    SHGR likes this.

    Quote from eleectrosaurus
    there are 100's of people on this site who would love to have any kind of interview. while you're having a pity party and are going to throw an opportunity away. grow up and quit feeling sorry for yourself

    That is harsh. Like to knock someone when they are down much?

    I do not assume he/she is having a "pity party". I think the poster is upset over her performance, and that is understandable.

    I offer her/him this: take this as a learning opportunity. You now know how NOT to flub a phone interview.

    You will do better next time. We have all made mistakes. All part of growing. (Not to be construed as me telling you to "grow up".)