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What I really wanted know with this thread is about the other new grads, with or without a job--did the honeymoon phase/excitement wear off after about a year either way? I think a year is about what it is for everyone.
wendy, I just do not want to put myself in a situation where the patient load is unsafe to begin with and the whole losing licenses issues. The Board would probably look down on the safety issue even more with me already being in HPMP. I don't want to put myself in a very unsafe situation where I could possibly tangle with the Board again. Nice people they are, but no, I think one time was enough.
Nothing against LTC nurses. Just I do not want to put myself in that situation. Just that. Nothing else. One go around was enough.
I am unemployed somewhat by choice, in that no, I am not doing LTC. My area hospitals are on hiring freeze. I will move. I applied in other places, I get interviews, one or two jobs are outstanding, but no, I am not taking any job just to quit when something better comes along. Another thing people on here have to realize is I cannot work third shift per my contract. I think would actually like nights. I go on little sleep, but I cannot...not allowed.
For the haters out there, do not follow me. I am just not the bright eyed bushy tailed new grad like everyone else. I never set out to be an inspiration to anyone, so sorry to disappoint. I can only tell what happened to me, both the highs and lows.
Yeah, it is not just me that gets concerned over false positives...read the recovery forum. Plus, also, jobs have to be approved by HPMP. You do not just say that you are applying for XYZ job and ring, they call you with a job offer and you say ok. The monitoring people have to staff and approve a job. Then you come up with a work monitor. Most jobs do not want to deal with that.
So, no, it is not as easy as people make it to be. If you do not like me, do not follow my posts and threads. I think it is odd that the same people who do not like me, follow me. Just don't. This board is for inspiration and vents and negativity. I did not put anyone down. I just think the excitement phase of nursing wears off job or no job.
glycerine, I was a PCT for a short while. My point is this--whether it is healthcare or regular jobs (non-healthcare), you are typically over qualified when you get a license. I wasn't comparing those two--just saying that whether it is within healthcare or outside of it, you are over qualified.
I applied to both--nursing jobs and non-healthcare (lower wage jobs, but it is a job). Lower wage jobs were a no go as I was over qualified and they thought I would jump ship if I was offered a nurse position.
HouTx, no I am not drinking or doing any drugs. I get very worried that I will come out with a false positive (like a benign substance causing a positive) because my substance of choice was alcohol. I had alcohol abuse. Alcohol is in a lot of products, so it is very possible to get a false positive. Any sort of testing is on our dime. I am on a very tight budget. I do not have any extra to spare beyond very basic testing, let alone any false positives. As far as help, I learned my lesson the hard way. That's how I am in this situation.
I am at the point where I am involved in other things and if it wasn't for the fact that I dropped so much money on HPMP, I would send my license back. I am not excited anymore. Time is passing and with every month, I am further and further out. I doubt it will happen and I hate how much money I spent for nothing.
Lynda, I do not have debt. Mine was free because my mom taught at the school. I actually switched majors three times, nursing being the last obviously. Nursing had nothing to do with the money, I like public health anyway, which is like the lowest paid in nursing. I was like the OP, that is my point. The cutesy, excited type that liked the critical thinking, but I like public health rather than solely working in the hospital. I realized post school and hopping through the hoops with the Board and volunteering with Americorps, volunteering in general post Americorps, and hearing about what medical assistants can do, etc. Nursing anymore is not the Florence Nightingale type nursing. Most of the time, nurses chart a good portion of their time and manage rather than hands on care. I realized after the fact that most of the stuff that I am interested in is not solely nursing skills...lay people can do a lot of that stuff too.
The way nursing is presented in school is not real world. I am lucky I came out debt free, but for me, the little money I make now to keep the license and not do have job and I ask myself when is enough enough. Let it go. It irks me slightly to think I spent almost 2 grand, which is everything I made post school on drugs screens just to keep a license. That is really the only thing that keeps me from getting rid of my license. Thinking how much I spent already in HPMP. I would be out that money and nothing to show for it.
OP, you have to realize that once someone has a license that DQs them for many jobs--CNA, cashier type jobs (due to being overqualified and thinking they will leave if they got a job as a nurse), etc and they are under qualified for others. You can end up stuck. I think being stuck in the middle/rut really made me resent being a nurse and having a license.
In all fairness, OP asked if people were proud to be a nurse. No one was slamming OP and crews choice to be a nurse, but my experience having the license has not been good. Therefore, no, I am not a proud nurse. I have other things in life that made me so much prouder than this. Plus, I do not define myself solely by a profession.
I think one of my biggest fears is that not only do I not get a job, but if I do, would the excitement return? It scares me to think I am so exhausted that I am not excited about a nursing job.
I am ok waiting for things. Unlike most new grads I am a year and three months out and almost 7 months into the job search post approval. So, it is not like expecting a job within two weeks after graduation. The truth is, time is not on my side. I am also dumping every dollar I make/have into something that may never happen. Sometimes, I truly think giving the license up would be helpful. I know in about 9 months or so, if I do not have a nursing job, I most likely am going to. That would put me at 2 years out.
I like the idea of being able to relax as far as worrying if something would give me a false positive on a drug screen. I like the idea of maybe changing into a field where my mental health issues are not a big deal. I would be able to skip appointments if I could not pay for it.
lori, no one is saying we aren't happy for you and OP. But, as someone who can write RN after their name (upon getting a job), and those who are actually working as nurses, there is reality. I can't find a job. My area is on a hiring freeze to salvage jobs by re-structuring and moving people within the systems. Jobs are posted, but that doesn't mean they will be filled. The people who have jobs can get stuck with many patients and unsafe ratios.
I think I am well within my right to state my opinion. OP did ask. It is called AllNurses. I am a nurse.
It is so much easier for the students to pass judgment on people holding a license and those trying to get a nursing job when you all are students. I will admit, trying to get a job and having interviews (yes, I am thankful that I at least get interviews) that are fruitless, it does get depressing. I do not think students have any right to pass judgment on people who do hold a nursing license--with or without a job.
I think lori mentioned that she is tired of the negativity on here. I think people can put their experiences. Since the end of nursing school and getting my license, there have been silver linings in the mix, but for the most part it has been more negative. Sorry if I am a "debbie downer", but it has not been positive or sunshine and butterflies for me. I can't give on the job nursing experience and advice; however, I can give my experience of being in a monitoring program and having to look for a job, when I was approved, and not finding anything. I am dropping the very little money I make dealing with keeping my license and have nothing to show for it.
OP, in your original post you mentioned people not getting jobs and working their tail off and they should be proud. To me, that is not proud to be a nurse, that is a reflection on the people themselves, not the profession of being a nurse.
To the nurses, veterans or newbies, I am absolutely sorry that I threw my two cents in about you all needing to be sunshine and butterflies when I was in school.
lori, I am not a veteran nurse. I did not go into nursing for the money. I actually like public health. I want nursing students to realize that it is not sunshine and butterflies; there is reality. It is not being negative in stating reality.
I have considered doing something non-nursing. Just as you have stated your opinion, I can state mine.
Sometimes, they post positions that they have no intention to fill.
With all due respect, I disagree. It is not a "dime a dozen profession." There is quite a high standard to get in and get through nursing school. Where I went to school, we started with over 30 and graduated 13. You had to get 100% on the math test, no exceptions, or you were out. It weeded out the weak or weak-hearted, because if you were not really IN IT for the right reasons, you would give up. You either had the mental fortitude and intellect to persist or you failed. I do think your post is more of a troll post.
The tough nurses that we have all encountered (or you will!) all have their own baggage. Many of them did not start out that way and were likely just like OP. When time and experience begin to sour you, then that is the time for some introspection into a new path. Not all of us can be so insightful. It is with this that I remember as I encounter these gruff ones and remember "it's you, it's not me."
I will agree with you that, like any, it is just a job. How it differs with most other jobs is the very real issues of life and death. Only doctors, medics, firefighters, and police officers know the threat of this like we do. As a nurse, you are charged for a person. It is just a job, but it is a job fraught with great responsibility.
Wow! It's nice to hear these veteran nurses', it really is a reality check! I am used to hearing everyone around me including my big sister say they love being a nurse. I have always been proud of every job I have had from customer service to warehouse work. I hope that I don't lose that as a nurse. And to say that you are negative about the job because because more people are becoming a nurse is crazy! Jealous much?!
So, I have come to the conclusion that the excitement of being a nurse and everything that goes with that newness wears off after a year...employed or unemployed.
I still do not have a job and I am a year and almost 3 months out. I have become cynical and apathetic, I think. So, it is not nursing burnout.
I truly just think the excitement wears off about a year out for everyone. Thoughts?
I think a touch of my negativity comes from nursing becoming a dime a dozen profession. I think would have had more pride if it was special...if it was a profession not many did or could do. But, that is not the case. Everyone and their grandma is becoming a nurse, now. It's not anything special. It's a job.
Why do you automatically think lynda regrets being a nurse? It is a job...there are good moments and bad. I will admit that I used to think that people were being negative, but now I do not. They are only being honest. OP, if you want to be a nurse, then be one. Just know though that it is not all Hallmark channel lovey dovey "helping people and making a difference in people's lives". There is reality.
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