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  • May 20

    "Skinheads" here where I live are really "only" shaved-headed, tattoo'd, tobacco-spittin', beer-swilling, Bubba-Rednecks. Granted they are not an especially fun crowd to be around en masse; they do have some of the same prejudices as the neo-nazi's, but I don't think they are as quite as extreme as those White Power Militias. Mostly mouthy morons of breath-taking ignorance, minus the organization power. Still could be dangerous, for sure, if boozed up, but as individuals, overall, fairly spineless.

  • May 17

    Quote from Penelope_Pitstop
    I'm 38 weeks pregnant and in a "due in October" Facebook group. One of the members is naming her daughter Wrenezmay!
    ...... Um, where in that name does the accent fall?

    WRENezmay, WreNEZmay, or WrenezMAY ?

  • May 15

    Quote from babyNP.
    Sorry OP that this happened to you. I agree with OldDude's advice though.

    This kind of dumb stuff happened when I worked as a bedside nurse to me and pretty much everyone on the unit. IMO, it's a cancer and creates a toxic work environment. I am so thankful that the amount of drama I deal with as a NP is light years below what I saw that happened to others as a nurse.
    And I am thankful to be retired and away from this kind of nonsense! GADS!

  • May 15

    Quote from babyNP.
    Sorry OP that this happened to you. I agree with OldDude's advice though.

    This kind of dumb stuff happened when I worked as a bedside nurse to me and pretty much everyone on the unit. IMO, it's a cancer and creates a toxic work environment. I am so thankful that the amount of drama I deal with as a NP is light years below what I saw that happened to others as a nurse.
    And I am thankful to be retired and away from this kind of nonsense! GADS!

  • May 15

    "Skinheads" here where I live are really "only" shaved-headed, tattoo'd, tobacco-spittin', beer-swilling, Bubba-Rednecks. Granted they are not an especially fun crowd to be around en masse; they do have some of the same prejudices as the neo-nazi's, but I don't think they are as quite as extreme as those White Power Militias. Mostly mouthy morons of breath-taking ignorance, minus the organization power. Still could be dangerous, for sure, if boozed up, but as individuals, overall, fairly spineless.

  • May 15

    Quote from Neats
    Coming from a military family freedom can mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. I know in the Kurdish camps freedom means having their own country and not being suppressed from Sunnis or Shiites. For me freedom means I can say what I want to say baring harmful things like I am going to end your life...threats or for that matter yelling out in a crowd fire when there is none...those kinds of things that stupid people do. Additionally freedom means I can live anywhere I want in the United States and have any weapon I want to protect my family and property. To my friend who is working in Rwanda freedom to them at this time means being able to walk to the well to get water safely. When my kids were teenagers freedom to them meant the ability to go out when they got their drivers license.

    Freedom comes with responsibility and responsibility come with restrictions. It is a matter of perspective. I personally like a happy medium. I am not opposed to harsher background checks for my weapons however there is a limit to what I will feel is appropriate (safety classes and background checks are OK to me) I think we need to pick our battles carefully and lean towards a more simple way of thinking. We will not please everyone and if I did I seriously think I did something wrong.

    What I an finding is this...
    We can go down the slippery slope of no smoking, no hiring obese people, no hiring members of the skin heads, no hiring member that are LGBT, hiring females at a rate 30 percent less...we all have choices I do not care about your smoking as long as I do not have to walk through the smoke on my into the front door, I do not care about your weight unless it is interfering with our working together you cannot do your job, I do not care if you choose to be a skin head as long as you do not talk about what your activities are at work and your treatment of everyone is the same respectful manner, I do not care about who you like male/female/transgender/pansexual it is none of my business unless you make it my business and sue me because I will not make a cake for you (just take your business somewhere else and give them a bad review), and me being a female I can negotiate with the best of them to get the best pay I can.

    Business has a right to place criteria in their work environment, we live in a capital world if you do not like it just do not go to that business take your dollars elsewhere, I do. Health Insurance companies do have some blanket policies. Most commercial Insurance companies serve the business, it is the company you work for that determines what kind of benefits they want to give their employees. Insurance companies do not pocket the monies when they do not pay out that money goes back to the company you work for.


    We have gone down a many slippery slopes the past 20 years and things keep changing. It is not just corporate greed it is too many divided people who will not meet others half way. Change, real change occurs when diverse people both liberal and conservative band together for a simple common cause/ideal in a manner that is respectful to both sides, no drama just pure willingness to operate together. What spoils the atmosphere is the inability to work together for a common cause despite differences.
    Neats, you are so articulate, expressing things that (for the most part) go double for me. I appreciated your ability to organize addressing aspects of the discussion, and succinctly and cogently express your ideas in writing. Heck, I was so impressed, I read it three times, saying "Yeah!" and "Yes!"

    As a former patient used to say, after our discussion about whatever's days news we'd heard, "You know, If everyone would just listen to us and see the clear simplicity of our viewpoints and then WOULD adopt and LIVE THEM, the world would be a MUCH more pleasant place!" a remark with which I heartily agree.


    It isn't always easy, but the more you practice acceptance of yourself and others, the more second nature it becomes. People are just who and how they are, including me! If people would be more accepting of the fact that EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, and for very good reasons, be they cultural, psychological, or just as a result of how they were raised and by whom (ie what sort of persons) My Gosh, as many people as there are in the world, that's as many ways there are of doing something. Everybody thinks THEY are 'normal' (whatever that might constitute) and if a person could visually 'see' what's going on inside someone else's head, and get a good glimpse of the reality of that other person's life, they'd be amazed, horrified, sympathetic, annoyed, astonished. All those other people outside us are SO different. And how DARE they think, act, say ...whatever.
    This THING that goes on now, the thingS that are happening everywhere and each more horrible than the next. The world's a sometimes scary place to be. Seems like people ricochet off each other, utterly determined that THEY are *RIGHT* and civility be damned.

    The personal life vs work life and insurance companies, gah what a cluster. I believe what I do on my own property, on my own time, is my own business. At work, I was at work and (mostly) would abide by the rules abide by the rules.

    I can't really complain about health insurance and Medicare is actually pretty good ... though it IS going up again this year by $7 or so additional dollars per month, with fewer services available. They NEED that $84 annually! Far be it from me to squawk, (yuh, right.)... But they reduced the amount of my social security this time by ... get this ... 40 cents less per month for me. Yeah, because they NEED that that extra $4.80 per year, since the gov't dipped into social security funds ... again. No wonder it's going broke with sticky Washington fingers nabbing some money for their pet projects.'tsk, tsk, tsk!

    However, I really miss that my Dr's appt's aren't just between the two of us and his actions are now dictated by actuarial tables and ever-changing rules and regulations, and decisions by numbers instead of by individual circumstances.Insurance is, I suppose, a necessary evil, but stil ... And it used to be you knew all the people you dealt with, now just some 'THEMs' vs us, and we lose. The world has lost personalization,and is too big, too dense, too troubled, too much, only computers can "handle" things so we are at their mercy. Yes, that's dramatic, but it is also quite true in places.

    And then there's the "That's how it is and we-don't-have-to-like-it-we-just-have-to-do it, so, we just-do-it. I think that's where many us stand on this issue.

    My helpful mantra, when I can summon it, is a shrug and an: "Oh, Well."

  • May 14

    Quote from babyNP.
    Sorry OP that this happened to you. I agree with OldDude's advice though.

    This kind of dumb stuff happened when I worked as a bedside nurse to me and pretty much everyone on the unit. IMO, it's a cancer and creates a toxic work environment. I am so thankful that the amount of drama I deal with as a NP is light years below what I saw that happened to others as a nurse.
    And I am thankful to be retired and away from this kind of nonsense! GADS!

  • May 14

    Quote from Neats
    Coming from a military family freedom can mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. I know in the Kurdish camps freedom means having their own country and not being suppressed from Sunnis or Shiites. For me freedom means I can say what I want to say baring harmful things like I am going to end your life...threats or for that matter yelling out in a crowd fire when there is none...those kinds of things that stupid people do. Additionally freedom means I can live anywhere I want in the United States and have any weapon I want to protect my family and property. To my friend who is working in Rwanda freedom to them at this time means being able to walk to the well to get water safely. When my kids were teenagers freedom to them meant the ability to go out when they got their drivers license.

    Freedom comes with responsibility and responsibility come with restrictions. It is a matter of perspective. I personally like a happy medium. I am not opposed to harsher background checks for my weapons however there is a limit to what I will feel is appropriate (safety classes and background checks are OK to me) I think we need to pick our battles carefully and lean towards a more simple way of thinking. We will not please everyone and if I did I seriously think I did something wrong.

    What I an finding is this...
    We can go down the slippery slope of no smoking, no hiring obese people, no hiring members of the skin heads, no hiring member that are LGBT, hiring females at a rate 30 percent less...we all have choices I do not care about your smoking as long as I do not have to walk through the smoke on my into the front door, I do not care about your weight unless it is interfering with our working together you cannot do your job, I do not care if you choose to be a skin head as long as you do not talk about what your activities are at work and your treatment of everyone is the same respectful manner, I do not care about who you like male/female/transgender/pansexual it is none of my business unless you make it my business and sue me because I will not make a cake for you (just take your business somewhere else and give them a bad review), and me being a female I can negotiate with the best of them to get the best pay I can.

    Business has a right to place criteria in their work environment, we live in a capital world if you do not like it just do not go to that business take your dollars elsewhere, I do. Health Insurance companies do have some blanket policies. Most commercial Insurance companies serve the business, it is the company you work for that determines what kind of benefits they want to give their employees. Insurance companies do not pocket the monies when they do not pay out that money goes back to the company you work for.


    We have gone down a many slippery slopes the past 20 years and things keep changing. It is not just corporate greed it is too many divided people who will not meet others half way. Change, real change occurs when diverse people both liberal and conservative band together for a simple common cause/ideal in a manner that is respectful to both sides, no drama just pure willingness to operate together. What spoils the atmosphere is the inability to work together for a common cause despite differences.
    Neats, you are so articulate, expressing things that (for the most part) go double for me. I appreciated your ability to organize addressing aspects of the discussion, and succinctly and cogently express your ideas in writing. Heck, I was so impressed, I read it three times, saying "Yeah!" and "Yes!"

    As a former patient used to say, after our discussion about whatever's days news we'd heard, "You know, If everyone would just listen to us and see the clear simplicity of our viewpoints and then WOULD adopt and LIVE THEM, the world would be a MUCH more pleasant place!" a remark with which I heartily agree.


    It isn't always easy, but the more you practice acceptance of yourself and others, the more second nature it becomes. People are just who and how they are, including me! If people would be more accepting of the fact that EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT, and for very good reasons, be they cultural, psychological, or just as a result of how they were raised and by whom (ie what sort of persons) My Gosh, as many people as there are in the world, that's as many ways there are of doing something. Everybody thinks THEY are 'normal' (whatever that might constitute) and if a person could visually 'see' what's going on inside someone else's head, and get a good glimpse of the reality of that other person's life, they'd be amazed, horrified, sympathetic, annoyed, astonished. All those other people outside us are SO different. And how DARE they think, act, say ...whatever.
    This THING that goes on now, the thingS that are happening everywhere and each more horrible than the next. The world's a sometimes scary place to be. Seems like people ricochet off each other, utterly determined that THEY are *RIGHT* and civility be damned.

    The personal life vs work life and insurance companies, gah what a cluster. I believe what I do on my own property, on my own time, is my own business. At work, I was at work and (mostly) would abide by the rules abide by the rules.

    I can't really complain about health insurance and Medicare is actually pretty good ... though it IS going up again this year by $7 or so additional dollars per month, with fewer services available. They NEED that $84 annually! Far be it from me to squawk, (yuh, right.)... But they reduced the amount of my social security this time by ... get this ... 40 cents less per month for me. Yeah, because they NEED that that extra $4.80 per year, since the gov't dipped into social security funds ... again. No wonder it's going broke with sticky Washington fingers nabbing some money for their pet projects.'tsk, tsk, tsk!

    However, I really miss that my Dr's appt's aren't just between the two of us and his actions are now dictated by actuarial tables and ever-changing rules and regulations, and decisions by numbers instead of by individual circumstances.Insurance is, I suppose, a necessary evil, but stil ... And it used to be you knew all the people you dealt with, now just some 'THEMs' vs us, and we lose. The world has lost personalization,and is too big, too dense, too troubled, too much, only computers can "handle" things so we are at their mercy. Yes, that's dramatic, but it is also quite true in places.

    And then there's the "That's how it is and we-don't-have-to-like-it-we-just-have-to-do it, so, we just-do-it. I think that's where many us stand on this issue.

    My helpful mantra, when I can summon it, is a shrug and an: "Oh, Well."

  • May 9

    Quote from FNP2B1
    It's raining phlegm, hallelujah, it's raining phelgm, amen♫
    I'm gonna go out to run and let myself get
    Absolutely soaking wet ♫
    Good one! Very clever!

  • May 9

    First known diagnosis of ICD-10 - HDVR = "High Decibel Vocal Range" which shatters eyeglasses and eardrums of those in the vicinity.

  • Apr 11

    First known diagnosis of ICD-10 - HDVR = "High Decibel Vocal Range" which shatters eyeglasses and eardrums of those in the vicinity.

  • Apr 10

    Luckyyou,
    I gave you a 'Like' for your last few lines advocating for your patient's needs. The rest of it is your business, not mine.

  • Apr 9

    The way things go these days, I'm happy to have become completely UNfacilitized!
    The only meds I deal with are my own...all 5 of them, 3 in AM's and 2 in PM's.
    I don't fuss, question, spit out, hide or refuse them.
    And I hope if a time comes when others are handing me my meds...I pray that
    God says, in his best Snaggletooth impersonation, "Exit...stage left!" Then I can fling my straw-boater aside and permanently Shuffle-Off-to-Buffalo where NO meds are EVER needed!

  • Apr 7

    Had a patient years ago, who took 18 & 1/2 pills every 8 AM med pass. She took them one. at. a. time. while I stood at the med cart watching all my patients yet to receive their 8 AM's, walk into the dining room, where pill-passing was verboten. I hated chasing patients around trying to get the pill-push DONE before I had to start the next one! AAARRRGGGHHH!

  • Apr 7

    Yes, marijuana isn't for children and adolescents; yes it CAN BE a "gateway drug". My husband worked w/ the Sheriff's Dept. said he'd whole lot rather deal with someone high on pot, than to have to deal with someone who is drunk. The folks who were smoked up were a lot less likely to be belligerent.

    Look, I grew up in the 50's and 60's, but didn't start using pot until the 1970's. I graduated nursing school in 1971. It was during what was referred to as "The Hippie Haydays"...drugs of all kinds were prevalent almost everywhere. I admit to trying a lot of them, though nothing considered a "hard" drug. Most of the pills made me fall asleep or feel sick from feeling dizzy, some made me feel like a bowl of creamed spinach, and some were downright FUN, very enjoyable with a lot of laughter. Mostly we'd just gather in the evening and smoke, play music and talk...and laugh.
    I never got high before going to work, I never drove high; I 'used it' as some here have described, as someone would have a beer or a glass of wine after work, as a pleasant way to unwind and decompress.
    Drinking made me throw up. My dad was an alcoholic. I remember the day my younger brother told our dad that he should try smoking pot instead of drinking
    I would have rather he smoked pot, too.

    So anyway, I tried a lot of different stuff, and I never got hooked on any of it. I wasn't interested in losing control or losing myself to the point of nodding and passing out. I think it's a shame to tar and feather everyone for the 'sins' of the MISusers. Everyone is afraid to prescribe opiods and try instead to push meds without the 'addicting factor', but that might not work as well. Sure I enjoy the initial buzz after taking a Vicodin for pain, but it doesn't last and the idea of having to lie and/or go out on the street to buy some is totally unappealing.
    I can live without drug-highs, but if I have true genuine pain I want the opiods for a few days. And I have lived just fine through long periods of time without marijuana, either due to cost or supply. Back in the 80's when Nancy Reagan introduced her "Just say no" campaign, I used to say,"MY problem is I can't find any drugs to say 'no' to!"
    I don't believe in getting or being high at work, for or from whatever cause or reason, is a good idea at all. But I think that more people than you would expect are actually able to be moderate and sensible about smoking pot, including a lot of professionals all the way to the top.

    So I don't ever expect the BoN anywhere to "approve" of pot for healthcare workers. IMO there are a lot of healthcare workers who divert but don't get caught, and the ones who do get caught, well, I have been surprised by colleagues I NEVER would have expected to, losing their license for that. Also there are a lot of healthcare alcoholics who justify it by saying "at least it's legal" like that makes any difference to their livers if it's overdone. And I don't want someone with a perpetual hangover or the shakes taking care of me!

    By the way, there are cannabanoids (oil) that can be given/taken for various medical reasons without imparting a high. But if the government is freaked out about allowing farmer's to raise hemp, just because it is in the same 'family' as marijuana, even though it makes an incredible amount of sense to be able to grow and use hemp (save trees, etc) ... politicians are always going to be on the stump for dunning any 'use' because it's too much competition for Big Pharma, which being BIG and RICH and NOT wanting to give that up. Well, I also think that lobbyists should be banned if all they do is 'buy' favor for their employer.

    Blah-de-blah-blah. How I do carry on. But I had $2 to add, not two cents, so there ya go.
    Never addicted, never arrested, no inclination to over-do, but yes, I smoke pot sometimes now that I am retired. I smoked for the first 30 years of my nursing career, but gave it up entirely during the past 18 years because I was afraid if I got injured at work, there was a mandatory pee-test. And when you go to be seen for a work injury... well, in the clutches of Workman's Comp, if you refuse a pee-test, that's an admission of guilt regardless.

    It's like with everything: food, drink, drugs, sex; there are always those who overdo and do unwisely. But there are just as many who don't overdo or use unwisely ... you just don't hear about THEM because they are DISCREET and sensible, like an intelligent responsible adult who knows their limits.


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