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    SnowShoeRN and tewdles like this.

    Yeah...but...that was a very vague and sketchy article, making it sound like the two involved were ogres or something. Were these patients all going in there and demanding meds? Who knows? Even that hidden camera doesn't know everything.

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    Oh my friend, it happens. It happens. I saw a wound one time...it wasn't the sight that bothered me so much as the smell. It was only my second semester of nursing. He smelled like a moldy side of old meat. The wound nurse and my instructor were in there. I was there and when they pulled the dressings off, I started to feel woozy, and the room started to look and feel "woozy". I said, "Excuse me, I think I need to go out to the nrsg station." My instructor took one look at me and said, "Yeah, I think you do." I do not remember walking to the station. I had some ginger ale and some crackers. It was actually hilarious in hindsight. She said, "You did the right thing....you don't want to pass out in the room."

    A few months ago I was in the room with my patient who was a fresh pacer placement. The doctor wanted to change the dressing on his shoulder. There was a first year nursing student in there who wanted to watch the change. The doctor hadn't even taken off the first piece of tape when the nursing student said, "Can I ask you something?" the doctor said "what?" She said, "No, her..." she looked at me. She said, "I can't see you. Do I look ok?" I looked at her and then I noted her eyes..her pupils were really REALLY dilated! I said, "You'll be OK, just go sit down over here; I'll get you something to drink."

    So yes, it happens even to the best of us.

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    I can see why he did it- but he still should've known better.

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    So what will it be in the '10's decade?

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    momology likes this.

    Forgive me - I did not mean to imply that ALL nurses who were not factory workers would say this, think this, or roll their eyes. I meant that those who worked in the factories would empathize with this much easier and would be more likely to understand.

    My apologies. I was so passionate about what I felt that I did not point this out.

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    As an addendum:

    I will always be a registered nurse, but the legacy of being a blue collar worker with ink and paper cuts all over my hands, that will be part of my soul forever. The day Brown Printing shuts down, it'll be the equivalent of bethelehem steel shutting down for several generations of families in the ABE area. And I will cry my eyes out.

    RWsCoverGirl4VR (Robert Weinsteiger's cover girl forever).

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    sparketteinok likes this.

    Charlie T.,

    I loved your post. I totally identify with you. *HUGS*

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    TDub likes this.

    Absolutely don't sweat it. Every nurse gets grossed out by something in the beginning, be it blood, guts, smells, sights, sounds...I almost passed out one day smelling a wound that smelled like a moldy side of old meat, and I actually LOVE blood. A nursing student I saw one time, her pupils dilated when someone changed a pacer dressing - no blood or anything. Just the thought of it messed her up. She looked at me and said, "I can't see so well," and her pupils were like black marbles.


    So don't sweat it. Youlll be fine. Desensitization - that's the key.

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    I worked at Brown Printing in East Greenville, PA; making magazines such as Time, SI, Entertainment weekly, Family Circle. I worked there right out of high school. I loved my job there. To this day I am proud to say that I worked there and I miss my job there. As I always say, if there had been more than 24 hours in a day, I never would have left.

    I would have been content to stay there the rest of my life until I was called into nursing by a higher power than myself. From August 2000 until December 2008 I endured working full time while in part time school (which as we all know means full time work), completely supporting myself by myself, dying cars, constantly increasing rent, layoffs, job changes, apartment changes (I moved 8 times), paying for wisdom teeth removal, paying the electric bill in the winter...I endured the rising cost of college from 400 dollars per credit to 660 dollars per credit to 740 dollars per credit. I endured the onslaught of student loans. I endured the constant need for cash for books. I had only 1 credit card up until 2006 and rarely used it. In the end I lost my good credit and now owe the governemnt 56,000 + in student loans. I endured tragic failures in nursing school, all because I wasn't getting enough sleep. I was in 2 nursing schools. I endured the deaths of my legal guardian and her husband, my dearly beloved grandmother, my most honored mentor Captain Greg of the Staten Island Ferry.

    BUT I NEVER GAVE UP. Right down to the very end, when I owed the college 1600 dollars and was completley out of any type of fund - I was laid off and couldn't get a job. My boyfriend, who I was living with for 2 years, locked me out of the house with nothing but the clothes on my back. He stole my cat from me. For a month I was working at Highway Marine scrubbing scum off of boats for 8.50 an hour while my colleagues were all taking their boards and making 22 dollars an hour. I was living with my friends' parents.

    I never gave up. My uncle agreed to give me a loan. I paid the school. I practiced and prayed for my state boards. I took them on May 1, 2008. The next day I was a registered nurse, and 3 days later I was making 29 dollars an hour at the county nursing home.

    My point is - Right now, and forever, I will be a registered nurse. That is all I have in this world, all that I am. I have no family. I have no life, really. Right now I work 72 hours a week just to pay back these epic student loans I have.
    My life as a factory worker is honored in my heart. I still go back to visit. I still call the tape (go ahead- call it - 1 800-223-0099) to see who's working and how much overtime is being given out. I met my 2nd best firend there, the man who I really should have married.

    My point is, life in a factory is different from that in a hospital. The factory worker - turned - nurse (RN/LPN) needs to be cognizent of that. Your image needs to be that of a competent and professional person. Swearing every other word, which I did on a daily basis along with everyone else at Brown, is an example of one thing that is not acceptable in the nurse's work environment.

    The nurse must also be aware that he/she is now the team leader (in most cases) where at places like Brown you did what you were told and except if you became an operator or a lead, you were not in charge.

    But the nurse also brings with them to their practice the honored experiences of the factory worker. So when their patient says, "I can't afford these meds," and "I don't mind taking these meds but how am I going to work?" and "My boss might not let me take the extra break I need to breast pump" and "We're not allowed to have food and water at the machines, so how am I going to take my Depakote four times a day while I'm at work?" and (especially true at Brown).."With my asthma/allergies, how am I ever going to fill pockets with scent cards???" (Scent cards, those perfume advertisement pages in magazines, come in boxes of 500 per box with 4 boxes open at a time....imagine inhaling that 12 hours in a row!)

    .......that nurse can understand where that patient is coming from, and not scoff it off in their heads and roll their eyes and chart that the patient is noncompliant.

    When I find out my patients work in factories, I take extra time to talk to them about their experiences and how they can implement the appropriate changes - from the heart.

    So YES, a lineman/linewoman who becomes a nurse SHOULD remember that they are now PROFESSIONALS, who are LOOKED UP TO AND DOWN UPON for their appearance and behavior - not nameless invisible factory workers who have to keep up with the machine all day. Although I would say that time management skills start in the factory .

    I love Brown Printing.
    I love Reading Hospital.
    I love my life.

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    What I would like to know is where is the "jury of peers" . If the defendant is a nurse, then shouldn't there be some nurses in the jury???

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    According to the Nurse practice Act of the state of Pennsylvania:

    In the acute care setting, the nurse-patient relationship ends at discharge.

    In the psychiatric settting (any setting psychiatric, I imagine), the nurse-patient relationship ends 3 years following the last discharge or point of professional contact.

    This is very important. I wish I knew what the long-term care view is on that. But anyway, these laws are important to note when considering this. I don't know if CNA's fall under the nurse practice act, or if they have their own, but as a rule they should probably be held in the same respect.

    This problem faced me 7 years ago. I was a nursing student, and a nursing assistant at Lehigh Valley Hospital. I met a patient who gave me his email address to teach me how to make scrapple when he had fully recovered. I didn't know what to do - I figured time was the answer. I asked a supervisor what she would do and she said that if I waited a while, it wouldn't matter, it would be the same as if I met him on the street somewhere. He gave another assistant his emial address to take him fishing. I added him to AIM list and did not see him on there for 9 months. We talked here and there, and then eventually he asked me if I wanted to come to Mariners' Harbor Yacht club for the afternoon on day 3 months later. Over the course of the next 2 years he became the second mentor in my life that I ever had. He taught me a way of life that I never knew existed. He died in 2006, and to this day I wear his favorite old "Searaptor" fishing sweater to honor him.

    I guess I had a unique situation. But anyway, there are limitations.

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    PurpleLVN likes this.

    This is my take on it.

    I've worked with many LPN's and they are just as experienced, hardworking, intelligent, and CULPABLE as RN's are. It is true that many places, especially hospitals, are phasing LPNs out. here at Reading Hospital they are doing that. Anyway, LPN's practically hold up the world of long term nursing and rehab on their shoulders. As an LPN, your best bet would be to get a job there. You will find that RN's are being paid more than you when you are doing the same work as they are, even perhaps more. You will find as an LPN that there are some RNs who will disrespect you and think of you as less than them, when you are not.

    Hiring LPN's is a way for employers to pay nurses less than they deserve, and in my opinion, that's why LPN schools are still functioning. It's not fair to LPN's AT ALL. It turned my stomach to watch my coworkers be paid 8-10 dollars an hour less then me, doing the same work that I was doing as an RN. (Exactly the same, at some places, like one place I worked.)

    Will you fall in love with being an LPN? Absolutely. But truly there is no sense in being paid less to be just as responsible as an RN (in most cases). LPN's are trained as stringently in the same area of study as RNs. I would say, if you there is no way rihgt now that you can go to RN school, go to LPN school and bridge to RN when you're ready. Only then will you be treated fairly (or, more fairly than an LPN).

    Never disrespect the LPN's or other staff who are technically under you, because in reality, they work next to you , not under you. Good luck!

    ----Valerie N. Roeder, RN, BSN

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    Dear FirestarterRN,

    I agree with you, btw. Calling the baby a "creep"...I don't get it (and then capitalizing it yet!). If she was really just "blowing off steam", I would NOT have put that on a public page!!! Her writing IS terrible and, ironically, maybe that will serve her well in her case to come. Not everybody writes well, contrary to what CCC would like to believe.

    From reading her page I was able to tell she worked at a hospital, but it was impossible to tell if she was a nurse or not. I figured she was a nursing assistant or something by the way she talked. But she's already a nurse? I suppose I could look up her license, if she had one, on the La SBON website...if I felt like I had the energy. And I wold have thought that a registered nurse would have more brains than to talk like that.

    I do NOT agree with the things she has said, mind you. I just don't believe she should have been dismissed for those remarks. Of course, even if she wasn't dismissed, they would have made it very VERY hard for her to pass. And, like someone else said on this page, she has the right to free speech, nobody sanctioned this, but as a registered nurse she is expected to hold herself to those standards. As I tell all my friends, "I'm no longer just a person, but a registered nurse." There's no written rule saying we have to be more perfect than others. It's just the way it is. Everything we do is ALWAYS under scrutiny by the powers that be, whether we are at work or in school or at an amusement park. She's going to pay a heavy price for letting her mouth/fingers run rampid.

    And since when do they let students in to videotape a birth? I was very confused by that part too.

    BTW...I love your name, Firestarter. Don't get me wrong. I like to think of myself as a bit of a closet pyromaniac myself, if I had the safe environment to be one...but I don't...so I can't play with fire.

    LandslideRN

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    But how would you like it if you were in nursing school, and one of your instructors knew that your name was FireStarter on this public website, and they dismissed you from school saying "you were a danger to public health and safety"?

    Just speaking as a devil's advocate, mind you. I think dismissing her was going too far. But I still think there's more to it than what we're being told. I think they want to get rid of her because she wasn't paying attention in class, and the instructors knew it.

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    ToxicShock likes this.

    Hello all, and welcome to my first opinionated posting:

    When I went to Cedar Crest College, as part of our final course, we were asked to write a testimonial of sorts about one patient that we had throughout our schooling that taught us something or made us learn something. We were asked to describe the situation and what we did and how it made us better nurses, etc etc. Like writing an essay. Then they took all of these and bound them together and distributed them to all of the people in attendance at our graduation. We were told, no names, no identifying info, etc. And by the way, this was a course requirement, and was very strictly graded.

    OK, so what if one of those books made it in to the hands of someone who was a patient in someone's testimonials? And even though it was a tearfully happy story or neutral-feeling story, maybe that person wouldn't want their story published for all the world to see through the eyes of a graduate nurse? Just because it's a "good" story doesn't make it any more or less of a patient confidentiality issue, no matter that no names were used or not!

    I wouldn't doubt for one minute that other colleges have similar requirements of their students.

    The college is by trying to protect its posterior against a possible defamation lawsuit. Also, if her college is like Cedar Crest was, they have no right to dismiss her based on this...Not every story is a good happy story!

    As to what she said: how would I know who she's talking about? Her comments are a little strong, that is true. I don't think I would have talked this strong in a public setting (though we don't think of myspace as public unless we want to). In fact, if I ever needed to talk like this, to "reduce stress", as she puts it, I would have set this particular entry to protected or private. Such is possible ....and wise (which she no doubt knows now in retrospect).

    Will patients not seek health care because of this? Like everything else in this world, people will get over it. Hopefully, people will understand that everybody needs to destress, and that not every story is a happy story, and that a beautiful event in one's eyes may be hideous in another's. Hopefully, people will understand that we all -ALL OF US - sometimes don't think before we speak.

    Hopefully she won't lose her job because of this.

    Would I want her as my nurse? No. Why? Because, instead of paying attention in class, she was posting on Myspace (she clearly indicates she was in class while writing that entry). At least once. Who knows what she missed during that long post, and who knows how many other classes she blogs while she should be taking notes and paying attention?

    There's probably a lot more going on than we are told. They were probably gunning for her because she was doing poorly or the administration didn't like her. We all know what THAT'S like.

    As a nurse, if I were to post on here the way she posted, would the State Board of Nursing call me up on the carpet for it? Or my employer?



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