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1. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

   RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

   1st off, the concept of having a PA or NP working in primary care with the physician is a sound one if set up right, the physician should be seeing the same patients on a rotation basis. It is not meant and in some states by law, that the PA or NP ar...

2. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

   RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

   You are missing the point, you cannot expect someone not trained as a Physician to replace a Physician. You are arguing that Nursing is training better Primary care providers, How? What is the evidence of this? How can Nurses train such providers wit...

3. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

   RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

   I have to go for while, please keep posting, I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, in fact I expect some to, I wish I had all the info in front of me, I have to study for clinicals tomorrow (IM) some review. Maybe in time I will understand ...

4. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

   RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

   I 100% agree with this, I think when in Nursing school the nursing theory and even (Gulp) nursing care plans were needed since I was studying nursing. But some more disease oriented study would have been a good thing. I also think Nurses should be a...

5. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

   RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

   I do not think so, PA programs are more like medical school why cannot DNP be such if they expect this autonomy? I think its a fair question. Not true/pure Autonomy in most states ( like a Physician has) I want to clarify this I do not know of...

6. NP & MD equivalency

   RN to Medschool replied to Dr. Tammy, FNP/GNP-C's topic in NP

   i do not know you started a new thread to discuss virtually the same issue? i do not think that np's pa's and or dnp's do not have value, i do think that they are not equivalent to md and do's i think that np's, pa's and dnp's do and should have a l...

7. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

   RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

   AN yet a new thread pops up, for those of you who say NP's are not being equated to MD/DO's https://allnurses.com/forums/f34/np-md-equivalency-316413.html#post2957696 Please stop posting I have a chip on my shoulder for addressing this.

8. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

   RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

   I have seen the research and it was based on satisfaction surveys. Wheres the Outcomes? that is what I'm talking about. It needs to be done in rural areas not in ares where the NP is backed up by MD and DO's You earned the reputation because many MD ...

9. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

   RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

   this has been brought up in a "passive aggressive way" by people here on the site, when openly comparing md and do training to dnp and statements like md = doctorate and dnp= doctorate i have read these articles, you tell me what is the real intent...

10. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

    Not all master's prepared Nurses are NP's, this is part of the problem, if the admission critea was for NP's only then the DNP would be accepted a little better by Physicians Part of the Problem I have is this: The courses I have looked at are nursin...

11. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

    To answer an earlier Question IM residency: The IM residency that includes other specialties it is 4 years then SO CORE0 was right on this in the sense that IM itself is 3 years but an extra year for focus can be added. This is considered a 4 year ...

12. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

    I feel there are two points, sure there have been states where NP's have a lot of autonomy, but where are the studies that show Care for patients has exceeded care by a Doctor? Patients satisfaction surveys are not even close to the right kind of stu...

13. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

    OK I did get "Sassy" myself. I really did not mean to create an online fight, SO I apologize too heated debate sure pass the popcorn. As far as this debate I will come back and check but I posted what I wanted. I think this does need to be discussed...

14. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

    My Point is that the RN BSN and MSN are Nursing oriented degrees Even the DNP seems to be more Nursing then Medical so a DNP is 75% Nursing and maybe 25% Medical as what I currently understand. A NP that gets a DNP will have more Medical training tho...

15. discussion regarding education of NP (DNP) and PA compared to MD/DO

    RN to Medschool replied to RN to Medschool's topic in NP

    i think it is relevant since a Masters in Nursing is not clinically oriented all the time: Yes the MSN is just more Nursing courses really I can only look at it I do not have a MSN myself