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    Since when are animals' lives more important than humans' lives? Ok i like animals and all, but- seriously- the statement of being ok with dissecting a human cadaver but not an animal carcass?? Are u kidding me?? Come on- this has got to be a joke.

    The day that the life of an animal takes precedence over that of a human will be a very sad day for us all.

    If the op is animal passionate to the extent she says she is, then she should spend her $ and her time at the animal shelter, and find homes for them and bring home all of them that are set to be euthanized.

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    Quote from caringnursenj
    wherever you work, whatever field you're in, there's office politics and gossip. and you will always feel the pressure whether you're a nurse, a cop, a doctor, a cashier, a cleaning lady, etc. if you are looking for something you enjoy and have fun with, i always tell my co-workers, you're looking for a hobby---not a job! :d once, a co-worker told me, "you don't have to exactly like your job, but you definitely have to pay your bills."
    this isn't just a case of not liking my job. i guess you didn't read my op. i love my job. and this situation isn't just gossip and office politics, though there is a lot of that, too. the definition that was given of lateral violence fits my work environment to a tee. it only leaves out the incident of the charge nurse shoving another nurse into a wall with the mgr watching, who did nothing. she quit shortly after. 5 nurses have quit in the time i've been on this floor. the charge doesn't bully me so much anymore as she used to, but she's poisoned the whole environment and everyone is scared of her, even the mgr.

    p.s. i have an interview with hospice tomorrow.

    thank all of you for your positive responses and support. i really need and appreciate it.

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    vernRN likes this.

    Thanks for all the input and thank you for sharing your heartfelt stories. It helps to know I'm not alone.
    There is NOT a job shortage here. There are many, many jobs to be had at this hospital. Turnover rate is very high. I think going part time is the best, because I love my floor- we get a geriatric/medsurg/peds mix that I love. The other floors are ortho and dialysis- don't want anything to do with that.

    I do think my boss appreciates me and realizes I'm a good hard worker and a team player, but she won't do anything about the 6th graders. I know you can't really control people, but there's a lot of bs that she could stop if she wanted to.

    I think going hospice is best for my kids (I am divorced with two small kids) because the hours are so long at the hospital. 12 hour shifts are actually 14 or 15. It's after 2100 by the time I get home. The kids miss me. I miss them. But I love taking care of my patients.

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    vernRN likes this.

    Vent and request for advice:
    There is so much fighting, bickering, backstabbing, rudeness, hatefulness and just plain meanness at my hospital on my tele-medsurg floor that I just can't stand it anymore. This is my first job out of lpn school, and I am in school for my bsn. I've been there 1 year 8 months. I am thinking of going occ part time for hospital and full time for a hospice.

    I love hospital nursing, LOVE IT!! But the nurses I work with are so much like 6th grade. I don't want to leave the hospital, but I'm afraid if I don't, I'll have a nervous breakdown and not be able to finish school.

    So, have any of you left the hospital because of this? (going to another hospital is not an option, the next closest is a two hour drive away) And if so, will I really lose my skills andknowledge? Even if I still work part time there? And what about hospice? I deal with palliative pts all the time, and I really love it. I just don't want to leave the hospital because I need the experience. But I don't know how much more I can take.

    Any wise words would be greatly appreciated.
    Thank you.

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    trixie333 likes this.

    Quote from nursel56
    Both Verbalgirl and Old-newRN -- being treated as if they are of no value - even though Old-newRN we don't know exactly why the nephrologist flipped out on her. Are there any managers that will go to bat for their nurses anymore??? What I read is so distressing to me.
    Nope. Managers do not givenurses any kind of backbone and are all too willing to throw the best nurses under the bus. Have seen this too many times.

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    We just started it at my hospital, and I think it will be better once all the kinks are worked out. But my biggest question is, if the patient(s) are in pain/nausea, whose responsibility is it to medicate, the oncoming who hasn't checked the chart yet, or the offgoing who just wants to get out of there? And, any tips on getting offgoing nurses to complete stuff they should have done (such as a pt waiting hour or more for pain meds)? I am all for helping out a team effort, but if a pt has been waiting an hr or 2 for pain meds, isn't that the responsibility of the offgoing nurse? Ihave encountered some resistance in this area.
    And, should the oncoming nurse be allowed to head to toe assess during report? This is a huge waste of offgoing nurses' time.

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    Y'all have given me the confidence and maybe the ammo I need to confront her, if it comes to that.
    Thank you.

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    Thank y'all for your support. Like I said, I am a fairly new nurse (<2years), and this is the only hospital I've ever worked. I've wondered if it's this way everywhere. I know this situation is not right, but people tell me this is pervasive whereever you go.

    Thanks again for the support.

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    Because it's either stay here if I want any kind of hospital experience (and I feel I need that because I've been a nurse <2 years) or drive more than 2 hours to another hospital. With two young kids at home, and being a single parent, the drive is not an option.

    As for the assault, yeah she should have reported it, called the police, whatever. I was giving an example of what this nurse deals out on a daily basis. I know people have complained about her to hr, but I think hr is afraid of her too, afraid that she'll say it was racial (she's African American and touts the race card all the time)

    I just try to avoid her at all costs, but it's kinda hard since she's charge. She's never physically assaulted me, but she does scream at and humiliate me quite often. The floor manager covers her behavior.

    Just trying to make it to two years experience.

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    So how do you deal with a nurse who is best friends/drinking buddies with the floor manager and screams at you all the time and is always finding ways to humiliate you in front of the nurses' desk?
    4 good nurses have quit because of her, one of whom stated, "I didn't spend this long in school (BSN) and work this hard for my license to be screamed at like a 5 year old." One nurse quit because this nurse shoved her into a wall.

    There is no end to her reign of terror. If you are not part of her crowd, she is on you like a duck on a bug.

    BTW, I can appreciate correction or constructive criticism, but since when is it okay to scream at someone and get 2 inches from their face and put their hands on a coworker?

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    TigerGalLE likes this.

    Q: What's black, 18 inches long, and hangs in front of an a$$hole?
    A: A stethoscope on a cardiologist. "

    Or a surgeon!! especially a vascular surgeon!

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    OP, I think you and I work at the same place!! LOL....

    Politics, the buddy system (manager and charge are best friends/drinking buddies) and cliques are predominant in my hospital. My charge nurse is rude, hateful, and most of the time a witch just because she can be. She gossips to no end, announces very personal things about people at the nursing station full of people (such as a person's sexual orientation), belittles and screams at whomever she pleases. Four nurses have quit because of her in the 8 months I have been on this floor. We are very short staffed now because of her, and she constantly complains about how we have no one to work ....ummm...duh??!!

    I just try to keep my head down and take care of my patients. I try to stay out of the politics, don't listen to the gossip (stop someone that's about to tell me stuff and tell them I'm not listening to that), and just try to make sure my behind's covered.

    The only thing I can say is it sounds like you're trying to be everything all at the same time. You can't. You were made human, not God. I would suggest to pick up a call light now and then, help someone out now and then, but mainly take care of YOUR patients. All these other factors won't matter if you get called before the BON because you were preventing a fall during your patient's code.

    I feel for you. I wish you the best of luck.

    P.S. to those who were chastising the OP for taking days off, she never said she was calling in. And while no one likes excessive calling in (or at all), I never have understood why nurses throw each other under the bus when a personal day is needed. Aren't people entitled to a life outside of work? Maybe those were scheduled mental health days. I have taken them (scheduled). And any nurse who says she hasn't is either lying or supernurse. It sounds like she needs to in the environment she's in. Maybe she does need a different attitude and/or coping strategies. But that doesn't excuse the behavior of those coworkers. I guess all of yall work in perfect environments where everyone gets along and helps each other. It would be nice if everyone remembered that everyone you see is fighting a bigger battle than what you see on the surface.

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    rabbitgirrl likes this.

    Quote from madwife2002
    I am sorry to read about the stress you are under. May I respectfully suggest that you may need to look at your day and plan it out ie organise your time management. It will help you be more organised and in control because lack of control will be worrying you now and it is a vicious circle which will cause you to be panicing and worrying over night. Ask a more senior member of staff who you trust to help you organise your day and once you are in a strict routine it will make your day easier. I know we cannot predict the day emergencies happen, but if you have a very strict routine are organised it becomes easier.
    While I agree that good organization skills are a must, as I am terrible with organization but have gotten better through trial by fire, I must say that this nurse's anxiety and mental stress is more likely due to the higher acuity and shorter staffing we are all experiencing. However, I was quite jealous when she said they do team nursing with only 6 patients. At my hospital, we do team nursing with 12 patients, all with high acuity. Rarely do we get walkie-talkies, they are usually all major surgeries, cardiacs, demented or total care turners. All this with totally unsupportive management who tends to blame the nurse and never listens to both sides of the story. I believe in the 1 year and 8 months that I've been a nurse, that I've become a really good nurse, and my coworkers and patients feel the same. However, there are many days that I feel the same as her because there is just so much to deal with.

    Sure wish I'd had an idea of what it's really like before I got out of school.

    Best of luck to all the newbies, and to all the seasoned nurses who I hope will show compassion to someone who is struggling.

    'May I never judge my neighbor before I walk a mile in his shoes."

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    I walked it over there, and they said they wouldn't take it from anyone but the charge. I thought I was being careful, too, but apparently protecting yourself is insuboordination. Don't get me wrong, when I approached her and rx both, I was more than polite. Then when she snatched it from my hand, I didn't speak to her the rest of the day because she had been so rude.

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    So what's everyone's take on this situation?

    I had been a new lpn for about a year and had just moved to a peds floor. Two weeks on the floor, and we had students that day. The students brought me an ivpb abx to hang on a baby. It was a special mix from pharmacy, one that they had to mix themselves. There were no total mg on the bag, just ml/hr. Students were and I was uncomfortable hanging it because u had no way to tell if the bag held 1mg or 1000mg.
    Long story short, after trying to resolve this myself with rx and getting nowhere, brought to charge rn, who cut me off, didn't listen to what was wrong with it, yanked it out of my hand, and screamed at me, well I'll have to go do ur job for you.
    I thought I was following the right chain of command, but later in my eval, floor mgr told me I was insuboordinate, and if charge says hang it, then hang it and document circumstances. That wouldn't hold up for the bon, though, would it?

    So was I?

    I know this is not doc to nurse, but still different levels of authority.


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