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I was an RN with years and years of vast nursing experience, spanning the spectrum from Hospice to ICU bedside care, before I became an MSN CNL. There are Many RN's out there who come to the bedside with a new MSN/CNL who have years and years of experience.
These RN's who go back to college to get their MSN/CNL are steadily growing in number. Additionally, hospitals and other healthcare employment areas are realizing the value of having nurses who are not only adept at taking care of patients at the bedside, but are also highly educated and not stuck in a 'silo of care' focus.
How am I holding up as a CNL grad? I'm doing awesome! I haven't regretted getting my MSN CNL at all, and consider myself very fortunate to be on the receiving end of a wave that is building towards utilizing more CNL's in my area of the world (Left coast).
I enjoy the respect of having my MSN degree with a focus in Clinical Nurse Leadership, and no one has ever dared to approach me and stated that a CNL is a worthless investment. Working with students in an RN program, and alongside other RN's at the bedside, I frequently am asked to give impromptu explanations of how they can get to where I am at with my MSN/CNL.
I am able to enjoy way more job prospects as a MSN versus a BSN in a Magnet hospital, and also am able to teach at a local college because of my MSN degree.
If I desired to return to college to be, say, an FNP or ACNP if I so desired, I would NOT have to get a second MSN degree. I would just obtain a post masters certificate in the area I desired.
Life is good - from a happy 28 year old Nurse, and a 4 year old MSN/CNL.
So I plan on getting my masters to become a nurse practitioner. After that I was thinking of following it up and earning my DNP. Is it worth it? Do DNPs have the title "Dr." I.e. " Dr. name FNP DNP" ?? I would appreciate any tips anyone could give me on it. Thank you!
We all just take turns. We are a level 1 PACU, so we have a Primary and a Secondary RN per patient. We function in teams for the day, so both nurses will take turns being primary and secondary RN. As far as the CNA goes; we do not have a CNA in the PACU. No one is really deciding who is getting the next patient coming out from the OR except the nurse-teams. It’s really hard to hide the fact that you’re sitting there picking your nose while another RN team is taking patient after patient.
I did not miss a thing. My career trajectory began as an LPN. I then went to an LVN to RN(ADN) program. Then I went to an RN(ADN) to MSN program.
Speaking with my nursing brethren, I have not found a single solitary reason in all the years since to have wasted the time taking a college level history and world government course in the BSN program - I just skipped over it to the MSN. (And I’m still pretty darn glad that I did). All of the nursing classes that are in the BSN program are required to be done in the MSN program, along with the MSN portion.
I think that people develop different coping skills as well as technical skills at their own unique pace. Sans a rigorous rubric/scoring tool that evaluates a person for the daily grind of the floor, the whole definition of “fit” is dependent upon the sole observer.
My hospital requires an interview for every single position change - be it from nights to days, part time to full time, unit to unit, or floor to management. With each opportunity, the interviewee is evaluated based upon a hiring panel as to whether or not they are a certain caliber or not.
It just doesn’t seem right for one single, solitary person to decide whether or not a person is a “fit” for that particular specialty. Something like that should require more than a few people to weigh in and give merit to the observations that are being seen.
One poster made the comment that the impersonator worked in the position of a unit clerk. Could it possibly be that she was an LPN/LVN (nurse) who impersonated an RN?
I don’t know the skills mix in the hospitals of that region.
Where I live, it is highly feasible to have an LVN at the monitor, or working as a ward clerk, because the RN’s are the only ones who are assigned to patients in the hospital settings.
Epigenetics: How large a role can Nurses play in shaping healthcare outcomes.
Hi meanmaryjean - I know that you graduated from Touro University Nevada (TUN) with a DNP in Nsg Education. I am very interested in pursuing a DNP in education as well. I am, however, confused by the curriculum change that they implemented in March of 2016, as it appears that TUN does not award the DNP in Nsg Education any longer. Is that correct? I would be very bummed if that is the case.
In looking through their curriculum, I don’t see courses that specifically spell out a focus in Nsg Education. Do you have any insight into this observation?
Five whole minutes, huh? I sure hope you can have a thumb drive with a powerpoint loaded up and ready to go.
Is there any way that you can look up the stats on this hospital and see where their weak areas are? Infection control-ish topics are
usually a good idea.
I am confused about the poor perception of WGU. I work in academia, and have observed faculty members who have nursing graduate degrees from WGU perform exceptionally well. I am not personally familiar with their program, only their graduates.
Education of nurses traditionally has faculty in close, consistent contact with students of their program. I find that many of my colleagues are non-plussed with the advent of programs that lose that contact. The perception is that the loss of contact equals a lesser-quality program.
I find that students have their own unique learning styles, and some students have a richer learning experience without the distractions of a roomful of other students that a physical classroom typically has.
Also - I have sat in on many hiring committees for faculty, and the pedigree of someone's education only has so much weight, because by the time you obtain a MSN or PHD/DNP/EdD, you generally have quite a bit of history to add to the whole picture. Honestly, by the time you're sitting in the chair answering interview questions, What and How you answer questions either confirm or deny an interview-panel members pre-conceived notion about you. Not only that, but there is generally more than one person sitting in on the interview.
My advice to you is to enter the program that is the best fit for you and your circumstances. A degree holder from Fancy-University can just as easily bomb a faculty interview as a degree holder from Online-U. I've seen it happen.
Best of hope for your continued success on your educational journey.
I went from ADN to MSN and did not have any difficulty landing a full time tenure track position as nurse faculty at a college.
Since you are a nursing instructor, this sounds like the perfect opportunity to introduce your student to EBSCO and CINAHL in order to do some proper research and critical appraisal of some articles in order to see what is current evidence based practice. Current EBP should drive practice, although, it’s nice to socialize with fellow nurses on AllNurses...
I am also very interested in hearing as much input as possible on this point. I could ask this very question as pertains to my circumstances. I already know that would much rather put evidence into action rather than dig for new data.
OP - Did you approach your Dean about paying for your doctorate, or vice versa? Also, how are they paying? Are they reimbursing, or are they using a scholarship/grant?
This may help answer some of your questions: CDC - Safe Patient Handling and Movement (SPHM) - NIOSH Workplace Safety and Health Topic
Preventing Back Injuries in Health Care Settings | NIOSH Science Blog | Blogs | CDC
To put it simply, it is usually not one single episode of heavy lifting. If you’ve ever heard the story about holding a glass of water, it is very relevant: "[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#292f34]A psychologist walked around a room while teaching stress management to an audience. As she raised a glass of water, everyone expected they'd be asked the "half empty or half full" question. Instead, with a smile on her face, she inquired: "How heavy is this glass of water?" Answers called out ranged from 8 oz. to 20 oz. She replied, "The absolute weight doesn't matter. It depends on how long I hold it. If I hold it for a minute, it's not a problem. If I hold it for an hour, I'll have an ache in my arm. If I hold it for a day, my arm will feel numb and paralyzed. In each case, the weight of the glass doesn't change, but the longer I hold it, the heavier it becomes." She continued, "The stresses and worries in life are like that glass of water. Think about them for a while and nothing happens. Think about them a bit longer and they begin to hurt. And if you think about them all day long, you will feel paralyzed – incapable of doing anything." It’s important to remember to let go of your stresses. As early in the evening as you can, put all your burdens down. Don't carry them through the evening and into the night. Remember to put the glass down!”[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#292f34]Reference : [/COLOR][/FONT]https://www.reddit.com/r/GetMotivated/comments/19bn9s/how_heavy_is_your_glass_of_water/
Usually, a candidate has a resume that shows a progression of accomplishments, and the doctoral program that was attended is but one piece of a larger picture. I’ve sat in on many hiring committee’s, and I’ve not seen any nurses that only have a doctorate and no other history.
If you’re trying to capture a plumb position, a degree from a pedigreed school might capture attention, but only for so long, as the rest of the candidates attributes will either confirm or deny any preconceived notions that a hiring committee member may have about the candidate during the interview.
To answer your question: Not in a considerable way.
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