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Joined Apr 5, '03. ProfRN4 is a nursing professor. She has '20+' year(s) of experience. Posts: 2,242 (22% Liked) Likes: 1,314

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  • Aug 29

    Quote from NotAllWhoWandeRN
    I've always had to roll my eyes at policies against "unnatural" hair color. Nothing looks more unnatural on some people than blonde.
    Also, what looks 'natural' on one person may not look natural on another. I have a color that looks fairly natural on my pasty-white skin. A student in my program had a similar color (a bit brighter) on her much darker skin. She actually received a complaint from the clinical facility (coupled with the style) that she looked unprofessional.

  • Aug 28

    Quote from NotAllWhoWandeRN
    I've always had to roll my eyes at policies against "unnatural" hair color. Nothing looks more unnatural on some people than blonde.
    Also, what looks 'natural' on one person may not look natural on another. I have a color that looks fairly natural on my pasty-white skin. A student in my program had a similar color (a bit brighter) on her much darker skin. She actually received a complaint from the clinical facility (coupled with the style) that she looked unprofessional.

  • Aug 27

    I don't think so. If you can manage to find another part time job (where the boss will be understanding of your goals) then you will not even need to mention what happened at this job in the future. I'm all about being truthful, so you could even state the real reason for leaving (if need be, in the future). You do not want to be in this toxic environment while in nursing school, so its probably for the best that this happened.

  • Jun 16

    Quote from Spidey's mom
    Now obviously I graduated 19 years ago, but I wonder too about where some of y'all are going to nursing school? Because there is NO way any of the things mentioned would have been tolerated.

    It sounds like the teachers are just not as firm about the rules like they used to be . . . maybe a sign of the times??

    Having kids was no excuse for not meeting your obligations as a nursing student. And you do have obligations.
    The problem is, it needs to come from ALL faculty, and the higher ups. I teach in the second level class, and I find it hard to believe that all of a sudden, students think they have a golden ticket to do whatever they want once they make it out of Fundamentals. So I asked around, and learned that many in the course me did not reinforce such things, and did not role model these behaviors themselves.

    It is incredibly draining to be on top of students who do not comply with professional behaviors. The excuses we hear, oh my goodness!! I feel like all of a sudden, everyone has medical issues!! In my course, we have failed students for excessive absences/latenesses to clinical. But in the classroom it isn't enforced nearly as much. Many of us are of the belief that you can come to class, or not... but don't come crying to us if you don't pass!

  • Jun 10

    Hello, and congrats on your acceptance to the nursing program! It sounds like life is going to change for everyone in your household. Even if your kids were already in traditional school, there would be huge adjustments for them. People are under the impression that things get easier when the kids get older (as far as parenting, schedules, etc), but the reality is, it doesn't. Many of them have activities that they are very passionate about (I can relate, as my teen has a similar passion). And unless they are old enough to drive (mine is not), it's on you, dad/partner (if applicable) or other reliable adults.

    Having said all this, would it be the end of the world if you had her sit out for the fall? Here's the selling point: you are ALL starting a new educational endeavor, and it will be very difficult to predict what everyone's schedule will be like. She may end up waiting to join something in school, the commute/workload and new structure of traditional school may take time to adjust to. Don't focus so much on you (although the does need to appreciate that your life cannot revolve around her, that this is something you want/need to do), but on her well being during this period of adjustment. I went through this when my daughter started HS (we put all activities on hold until we knew how things panned out with academic, extras in school and commuting- she takes public transportation).

    And then there's YOU: as you said, you have no idea what your schedule will be like. Even if you did have it now, you need to account for YOUR extras- study time, commute, and rest. Scheduling doesn't always go the way you want it to. If you're able to register on your own (choose your lecture and clinical sections) you may get closed out of the sites that suit you best. I am On the other end of this, (and have a soft spot for people like you, who are busting their humps to make life better for themselves and their kids) and as much as I'd love to accommodate every mom who has kids/job, or other obligations, it can't be done. Everyone has a story. Your immediate priority for them has to be school/childcare.

    Im not saying it all can't be done. It will be difficult. The more organized you are, the better off all will be. Maybe there's a way to modify her gymnastic schedule (less hours) or go on weekends? Or perhaps, work some sort of carpool out with another parent? If you're anything like me, you hate to impose on other parents. But the thing is (and I tell this to my students all the time) you will not be able to do it all. You must rely on others for support, if you want to succeed. Others may argue this. But I've been teaching for over ten years, and I see students who struggle every semester, because they feel like they can't let go of certain responsibilities at home (not cannot, but refuse to, like dinner, clean house, letting other people watch their kids, etc).

  • Jun 4

    Hello, and congrats on your acceptance to the nursing program! It sounds like life is going to change for everyone in your household. Even if your kids were already in traditional school, there would be huge adjustments for them. People are under the impression that things get easier when the kids get older (as far as parenting, schedules, etc), but the reality is, it doesn't. Many of them have activities that they are very passionate about (I can relate, as my teen has a similar passion). And unless they are old enough to drive (mine is not), it's on you, dad/partner (if applicable) or other reliable adults.

    Having said all this, would it be the end of the world if you had her sit out for the fall? Here's the selling point: you are ALL starting a new educational endeavor, and it will be very difficult to predict what everyone's schedule will be like. She may end up waiting to join something in school, the commute/workload and new structure of traditional school may take time to adjust to. Don't focus so much on you (although the does need to appreciate that your life cannot revolve around her, that this is something you want/need to do), but on her well being during this period of adjustment. I went through this when my daughter started HS (we put all activities on hold until we knew how things panned out with academic, extras in school and commuting- she takes public transportation).

    And then there's YOU: as you said, you have no idea what your schedule will be like. Even if you did have it now, you need to account for YOUR extras- study time, commute, and rest. Scheduling doesn't always go the way you want it to. If you're able to register on your own (choose your lecture and clinical sections) you may get closed out of the sites that suit you best. I am On the other end of this, (and have a soft spot for people like you, who are busting their humps to make life better for themselves and their kids) and as much as I'd love to accommodate every mom who has kids/job, or other obligations, it can't be done. Everyone has a story. Your immediate priority for them has to be school/childcare.

    Im not saying it all can't be done. It will be difficult. The more organized you are, the better off all will be. Maybe there's a way to modify her gymnastic schedule (less hours) or go on weekends? Or perhaps, work some sort of carpool out with another parent? If you're anything like me, you hate to impose on other parents. But the thing is (and I tell this to my students all the time) you will not be able to do it all. You must rely on others for support, if you want to succeed. Others may argue this. But I've been teaching for over ten years, and I see students who struggle every semester, because they feel like they can't let go of certain responsibilities at home (not cannot, but refuse to, like dinner, clean house, letting other people watch their kids, etc).

  • Jun 3

    Quote from TheCommuter
    However, many people would not consider me a success story with my LVN diploma and associate of science in nursing. To some people, anything less than a baccalaureate degree is ineffectual. To others, anything less than a graduate degree is ineffectual.
    This is the mentality that irks me so much lately, the college = success mentality. Yes, commuter, you are a success. And yes, I agree, that the world is full of very necessary jobs that do not require a college degree. With the cost, competition and rigor of a college education these days, it is just not a feasible option for everyone. I am frustrated with the current wave of the "I can be anything I want to be" attitude. No, you cannot be anything you want, sorry. There I said it. Wanting it is not enough. Good grades are not enough. A bachelors degree is not even good enough. While an education is never wasted, in my opinion, it is not the end-all be-all measure of success.

    Signed, the PhD student who will never make as much money as some people I know with no college degree.

  • May 14

    Quote from x_factor

    I agree with this. Jobs are not going to care whether you earned A's or C's in nursing school, they just care that you graduated and passed the NCLEX..
    Actually, I'm finding this to be untrue, at least where I live. The top students in our graduating class are the ones getting the prime jobs. I doubt this is a coincidence.

  • May 1

    It was always my understanding that the trough you draw before the dose will subsequently affect whether you give the next dose (not the dose you are drawing the level right before). If the doc did not wright "draw trough level at 12pm and hold 12pm dose" why would you hold it? Unless this specific institution has a policy stating you hold the dose that you are drawing the trough before, then you are not wrong (IMO).

    This is the problem with nursing; too many variations on things that should be standard

  • Apr 30

    Quote from BadStudent01
    I am a third-semester nursing student who has been using test banks since my first semester in the program. You could say that I discovered the existence of test banks by accident, but ever since I began using them, I have scored nearly 100 on every test I have taken. But here is the catch -- my teachers don't use questions from just one test bank.
    While it seems you have put a lot of effort into studying, and exposing yourself to as many different questions as you can, you're still cheating, in a sense. You don't know which of the bank questions will appear, but the fact that you are accessing a bank that is not meant for public (student) viewing, this is where the problem lies.

  • Apr 28

    Quote from thimba
    Here's how it could end badly... The student gets a compliment (like they are a child) then decides from that compliment they are excelling at clinicals and don't need to do anything more. Then they stand around even more.

    Another compliment? "Wow! I'm really doing everything right this semester. No need to change any of my behavior." = Continues being useless on the floor.

    They are students, not children. If they don't deserve a compliment, then they shouldn't receive one as some sort of backhanded way to attempt to make them useful during their shift.
    This.

    Not every student is whiny and unmotivated. But many of them are. They want to be nurses, but want to do as little as possible in clinical to accomplish the requirements, or they only want to do the 'cool' stuff. It's not my responsibility to convince adults that they want to do the job they are in school for. It makes me question of they really want to be there.

    And the over-praising of menial, expected tasks/accomplishments has gotten out of hand. I can honestly say, with every student whom I've had that has struggled, I can and do compliment them on their strengths. I am able to see good in (almost) everyone, and don't want to complely deflate them. But sometimes overdoing the compliments when they are sandwiched in with criticisms can be confusing to them. Sometimes they can't hear the 'but you're still failing'.

  • Apr 27

    Quote from BadStudent01
    I am a third-semester nursing student who has been using test banks since my first semester in the program. You could say that I discovered the existence of test banks by accident, but ever since I began using them, I have scored nearly 100 on every test I have taken. But here is the catch -- my teachers don't use questions from just one test bank.
    While it seems you have put a lot of effort into studying, and exposing yourself to as many different questions as you can, you're still cheating, in a sense. You don't know which of the bank questions will appear, but the fact that you are accessing a bank that is not meant for public (student) viewing, this is where the problem lies.

  • Apr 27

    Quote from milesims
    Perhaps universities and instructors should find alternatives to test banks. I don't know what it could possibly be, but the only solution I can think of is writing your own exam questions. It's a difficult situation. What are your thoughts?
    This is what we do (sort of). We adapt questions we find in banks and public sites. We create brand new questions from scratch as well. The result is often confusion and anger from the students. The students feel that our questions are way too complicated and 'tricky'. It is too much work from all ends.

  • Apr 26

    Quote from BadStudent01
    I am a third-semester nursing student who has been using test banks since my first semester in the program. You could say that I discovered the existence of test banks by accident, but ever since I began using them, I have scored nearly 100 on every test I have taken. But here is the catch -- my teachers don't use questions from just one test bank.
    While it seems you have put a lot of effort into studying, and exposing yourself to as many different questions as you can, you're still cheating, in a sense. You don't know which of the bank questions will appear, but the fact that you are accessing a bank that is not meant for public (student) viewing, this is where the problem lies.

  • Apr 26

    Quote from BadStudent01
    I am a third-semester nursing student who has been using test banks since my first semester in the program. You could say that I discovered the existence of test banks by accident, but ever since I began using them, I have scored nearly 100 on every test I have taken. But here is the catch -- my teachers don't use questions from just one test bank.
    While it seems you have put a lot of effort into studying, and exposing yourself to as many different questions as you can, you're still cheating, in a sense. You don't know which of the bank questions will appear, but the fact that you are accessing a bank that is not meant for public (student) viewing, this is where the problem lies.


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