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  • Jun 29

    Okay, here's the second part.

    About a month or so after what happened in my previous post, I was at my friend L's house after work... it was probably around 1 am or so.
    We were just sitting in the basement of her house talking and laughing (especially making fun of her teenage sister who was talking and giggling like a gushing fool to some boy on the phone upstairs).
    I mention this, because I want to stress that we were not talking about anything scary, freaky, depressing or anything like that. We were in a very good mood.
    We were going to head upstairs and L reached over to switch off the lamp on the end table.
    No sooner than she had flicked the switch, the "blacker than black" guy was clearly visible and, I **** you not, was gliding toward us... fast.
    (I just had a lurch in my gut remembering this.)
    Again, it was blacker than anything else... and this time it seemed so black it almost seemed to have a bit of a glow (?) around it? It is so very hard to describe.
    L and I are both are blubbering jibberish (you know, your soooo scared nothing comes out of your mouth) and we are fighting over the light switch.
    We darn near toppled the lamp but L got the switch.
    When that light came on, I tell you, L looked like death.
    I'm sure I looked the same way.
    We could NOT believe it.
    And it was very upsetting to me, because I just had a very similar experience with my friend J.
    Was something following ME?
    It was scary, I tell you.
    Really, the first time it happened, I thought it was soooo weird, it could never occur again. That would be my big "ghost story" of a lifetime.
    But noooooo.
    Both times, I had a witness.
    I had never heard of such an apparition, but, let me tell you, I did find online, several descriptions of such a thing and it was freaky to learn it was not unique.
    Why a fedora? Why a trench coat?
    It was bizarre.
    If these things had not happened to ME, so much I've read right here on this thread would seem unbelievable. But I know weird things DO happen.

    You can also be sure I don't go around telling this story to just anyone. Who'd believe it?

  • Jun 29

    Well, in the spirit of keeping this entertaining thread going, I will share a story, even if it is not "nursing related".

    Waaaaaaay back in my wild and crazy days, some friends and I went out on the town and whooped it up. I was just too dang tired to drive all the way home at 4 in the morning, so I crashed at my friend, J's house.
    We sharing a bed in J's room (and before you think I was some cheap tart, I'll mention here he was very gay and very harmless to me!!!).
    Anyway, we fell asleep, but after some time (?) I was suddenly quite awake. My eyes wandered off to the corner of J's room and, God as my witness, there stood a man in what looked like a fedora and long coat.
    He was like a shadow, but he was blacker than the black of the room.
    It is hard to explain. I can only say he was "blacker than black" and he was definitely there.
    He was very tall and he was absolutely terrifying. He did not move, but he gave off an aura of fear, evil, and just bad bad feelings.
    I was so incredibly scared, I was frozen. I closed my eyes and kept telling myself it was in my head. I eventually fell back asleep, believe it or not.
    The next morning (ok, ok.... it was probably 2pm!) my friend J wakes me up by grabbing my shoulder and shaking the hell out of me.
    I will never forget the look on his face. He was FREAKED.
    He said, "Oh my God, last night I saw something!"
    WHOA!
    We were ******* our pants as we realized we had NOT been dreaming. We BOTH saw it and were unaware the other had saw it too until then.
    The only difference is that, while I saw waaay it across the room... J saw it... at the foot of the bed against the wall... AAAAAAAAARGHHHH!!!!!!!
    I told J this, "I hope you saw it BEFORE I did!"
    He asked me why.
    I said, "Because I like to think when I saw it, it was moving AWAY from us... not TOWARD us!!!"
    He hadn't thought of that and looked like he was going to puke.

    There is a second part to this I will post separately... this is rather long for one post...

  • Jun 29

    I have a story that is not really a ghost story... it's a dementia story, really, but it still scared the pee outa me at the time.
    I was putting "Edna" to bed one night. She did have dementia and was also veeeerrrry paranoid.
    Anyway, I had her wheelchair by her bed and was getting ready to put her in when she yells, "Honeeee! There's a man under the bed!"
    So I, all ready to reassure her, kneel down, swipe my hand around under the bed and say, "See, Edna, there's no one there!"
    Edna screamed and goes, "Look out! Look out! He's evil... and he's looking right back at you!"
    Of course, I'm down there on the floor with my hand under the bed and she's telling me this.
    It gave me the heebie jeebies and, like a kid afraid of monsters under the bed, I was waiting for someone to grab my ankles the whole rest of the time I was putting her to bed!

  • Jun 29

    Okay, okay. I'll break down and tell one of mine. I have have more than a few weird things happen to me... the most recent only about 2 months ago at home, but I'll tell you about things that happened at the LTC I used to work at.
    I worked 3-11 and was busy putting my last pt to bed. She was really the last pt in the facility that had not been tucked in because she wanted to wait for her tv show to finish... no problem.
    She lived in room 306 bed B...the bed by the window.
    Now, I was her bathroom brushing her dentures. The bathroom door was open. I could look up in the bathroom mirror above the sink and see anyone who might enter the room and walk past the bathroom door.
    I was concentrating on her teeth when I glanced up, looked in the mirror and saw a little white haired lady in a pink or peach top zoom past into the room.
    I immediately stopped what I was doing to see who was on the prowl. Before I even made it out of the bathroom, I hear Margaret say, "She's in here again!"
    I about s*** my pants. There was no one there but Margaret! She had no room mate in the first bed at this time.
    Now, the door out of this room was before the bathroom. You walked into the room, you passed the bathroom, you past the first bed and then there was Margaret's bed. I left that bathroom immediately to investigate. There is no way anyone could have passed me to leave the room without me seeing them... or flat out running smack into them. But there was no one there!
    I was freaked! Margagret looked worried, and I don't think the look on my face helped!
    Now, this room is where the dang call light used to go off, we'd go answer it and by-golly! No one in the room had pulled their call cords. It was weird.
    Margaret would sometimes even pull the cord to tell us that a "lady" would wander in and stare at her... and even sit on her bed!
    Margaret was alert and oriented x 3. She was sharp, actually.
    We just looked at each other and I remember I actually laughed (nervously!) when Margaret just shrugged her shoulders. We couldn't figure it out.
    I called the "ghost" Peaches for the color of outfit I saw her wearing.
    Another aide had a similar experience with Peaches and neither one of us liked to answer the call in 306 alone at night.
    All our wanderers were accounted for in bed... you tell me!

  • Jun 26

    Quote from mrs.hood
    Well multiple times that day she was heard stating , "If a resident hits me, I'll hit them back because I don't play."... I didn't think much of this at first, she didn't sound serious to me.

    A few hours later I got called into the DONs office. Another nurse reported that she heard the orientee saying this and that I heard it to. When I asked, I stated yes I didn't hear her say it.
    I'm sorry, but I'm confused. Did you hear the orientee saying this or not?

    If you heard it, you needed to tell her to cool it and report her. I worked in an LTC where if somebody even so much as joked about popping a resident in the nose, they were gone.

    I would say that if this orientee was so casual in their inappropriate commentary (and in front of their new coworkers! We usually try to impress our new coworkers, don't we?) then this is a person who would likely do something abusive. They displayed no restraint. If you had reacted with any agreement to what they were saying... wow, that person would have been off like a rocket. They obviously see nothing wrong with what they were saying and, to me, that is scary.

    As for advice, like I said, you need to report stuff like this. If you heard it and said nothing, you are guilty for allowing a potentially abusive person into the lives of very vulnerable people. I would work on developing common sense and a backbone.

  • Jun 26

    Quote from mrs.hood
    Well multiple times that day she was heard stating , "If a resident hits me, I'll hit them back because I don't play."... I didn't think much of this at first, she didn't sound serious to me.

    A few hours later I got called into the DONs office. Another nurse reported that she heard the orientee saying this and that I heard it to. When I asked, I stated yes I didn't hear her say it.
    I'm sorry, but I'm confused. Did you hear the orientee saying this or not?

    If you heard it, you needed to tell her to cool it and report her. I worked in an LTC where if somebody even so much as joked about popping a resident in the nose, they were gone.

    I would say that if this orientee was so casual in their inappropriate commentary (and in front of their new coworkers! We usually try to impress our new coworkers, don't we?) then this is a person who would likely do something abusive. They displayed no restraint. If you had reacted with any agreement to what they were saying... wow, that person would have been off like a rocket. They obviously see nothing wrong with what they were saying and, to me, that is scary.

    As for advice, like I said, you need to report stuff like this. If you heard it and said nothing, you are guilty for allowing a potentially abusive person into the lives of very vulnerable people. I would work on developing common sense and a backbone.

  • Jun 25

    Quote from Sagegrr
    When I was in my nursing program, we actually had a nurse yell at a student to move out of her chair and computer. There was at least five other computers open.
    Maybe the nurse shouldn't have yelled, but if she was already logged into that computer, I can see where she may have been frustrated. Our computers can be slower than dirt and trying to get logged back in elsewhere can be infuriating. Also, I'd say if she actually works there, she gets dibs on which computer she wants.

  • Jun 25

    Quote from Sagegrr
    When I was in my nursing program, we actually had a nurse yell at a student to move out of her chair and computer. There was at least five other computers open.
    Maybe the nurse shouldn't have yelled, but if she was already logged into that computer, I can see where she may have been frustrated. Our computers can be slower than dirt and trying to get logged back in elsewhere can be infuriating. Also, I'd say if she actually works there, she gets dibs on which computer she wants.

  • Jun 24

    Quote from Sagegrr
    When I was in my nursing program, we actually had a nurse yell at a student to move out of her chair and computer. There was at least five other computers open.
    Maybe the nurse shouldn't have yelled, but if she was already logged into that computer, I can see where she may have been frustrated. Our computers can be slower than dirt and trying to get logged back in elsewhere can be infuriating. Also, I'd say if she actually works there, she gets dibs on which computer she wants.

  • Jun 24

    Quote from Sagegrr
    When I was in my nursing program, we actually had a nurse yell at a student to move out of her chair and computer. There was at least five other computers open.
    Maybe the nurse shouldn't have yelled, but if she was already logged into that computer, I can see where she may have been frustrated. Our computers can be slower than dirt and trying to get logged back in elsewhere can be infuriating. Also, I'd say if she actually works there, she gets dibs on which computer she wants.

  • Jun 24

    Quote from mrs.hood
    Well multiple times that day she was heard stating , "If a resident hits me, I'll hit them back because I don't play."... I didn't think much of this at first, she didn't sound serious to me.

    A few hours later I got called into the DONs office. Another nurse reported that she heard the orientee saying this and that I heard it to. When I asked, I stated yes I didn't hear her say it.
    I'm sorry, but I'm confused. Did you hear the orientee saying this or not?

    If you heard it, you needed to tell her to cool it and report her. I worked in an LTC where if somebody even so much as joked about popping a resident in the nose, they were gone.

    I would say that if this orientee was so casual in their inappropriate commentary (and in front of their new coworkers! We usually try to impress our new coworkers, don't we?) then this is a person who would likely do something abusive. They displayed no restraint. If you had reacted with any agreement to what they were saying... wow, that person would have been off like a rocket. They obviously see nothing wrong with what they were saying and, to me, that is scary.

    As for advice, like I said, you need to report stuff like this. If you heard it and said nothing, you are guilty for allowing a potentially abusive person into the lives of very vulnerable people. I would work on developing common sense and a backbone.

  • Jun 24

    I hate those care plans so much. So, we're supposed to create a care plan on the patient's goal, and this gets to be ridiculous in Psych.

    "So, Bob, what's your goal?"
    "To get the hell out of here, you dumbass!"

    "Mary, I'd like to ask you what your goal is."
    "I know you're in cahoots with the KGB. I'm not giving anything up."

    Here's a special one for Geropsych:

    "Ok, Joe. What's your goal?"
    "Have you seen Mother?"
    "Ok then, Junior. Can you tell me what your goals are for Joe?"
    "To get better."
    "Yes. Of course."
    "I want him back to the way he was before all this happened."
    "I see he has dementia..."
    "Yeah, I'd like him to get his memory back."

    So, now I put these patient/family goals into the care plan and we are supposed to chart under these. Thanks to Whoever-Started-This-Mess that decided to hyper-focus on using "the patient's own words" [insert unicorns and rainbows here], we are now charting under these bizarre "goals". Yes, I'm charting about suicidal ideation on the care plan for "Risk for Suicide" under the patient's stated goal of "To get the hell out of here."

    On my more ornery shifts, I almost hope for the most ludicrous response to this question. I think the best answer I ever got was "none of your business, sweetheart", which was given to me by the world's crankiest, crispiest old lady

    On some patients, yes, I can work with them and pull out a reasonable goal... most of them? Not really and I don't really try anymore.

    The only time I look at the care plan is when I have to set it up with a new admission or when I have to chart through the care plan. No, I do not update it. I do not care. It is a sham. The only people who care are the people who are paid to make things look good on paper for Joint Commission.

    This is how I really feel.

  • Jun 24

    I hate those care plans so much. So, we're supposed to create a care plan on the patient's goal, and this gets to be ridiculous in Psych.

    "So, Bob, what's your goal?"
    "To get the hell out of here, you dumbass!"

    "Mary, I'd like to ask you what your goal is."
    "I know you're in cahoots with the KGB. I'm not giving anything up."

    Here's a special one for Geropsych:

    "Ok, Joe. What's your goal?"
    "Have you seen Mother?"
    "Ok then, Junior. Can you tell me what your goals are for Joe?"
    "To get better."
    "Yes. Of course."
    "I want him back to the way he was before all this happened."
    "I see he has dementia..."
    "Yeah, I'd like him to get his memory back."

    So, now I put these patient/family goals into the care plan and we are supposed to chart under these. Thanks to Whoever-Started-This-Mess that decided to hyper-focus on using "the patient's own words" [insert unicorns and rainbows here], we are now charting under these bizarre "goals". Yes, I'm charting about suicidal ideation on the care plan for "Risk for Suicide" under the patient's stated goal of "To get the hell out of here."

    On my more ornery shifts, I almost hope for the most ludicrous response to this question. I think the best answer I ever got was "none of your business, sweetheart", which was given to me by the world's crankiest, crispiest old lady

    On some patients, yes, I can work with them and pull out a reasonable goal... most of them? Not really and I don't really try anymore.

    The only time I look at the care plan is when I have to set it up with a new admission or when I have to chart through the care plan. No, I do not update it. I do not care. It is a sham. The only people who care are the people who are paid to make things look good on paper for Joint Commission.

    This is how I really feel.

  • Jun 24

    I hate those care plans so much. So, we're supposed to create a care plan on the patient's goal, and this gets to be ridiculous in Psych.

    "So, Bob, what's your goal?"
    "To get the hell out of here, you dumbass!"

    "Mary, I'd like to ask you what your goal is."
    "I know you're in cahoots with the KGB. I'm not giving anything up."

    Here's a special one for Geropsych:

    "Ok, Joe. What's your goal?"
    "Have you seen Mother?"
    "Ok then, Junior. Can you tell me what your goals are for Joe?"
    "To get better."
    "Yes. Of course."
    "I want him back to the way he was before all this happened."
    "I see he has dementia..."
    "Yeah, I'd like him to get his memory back."

    So, now I put these patient/family goals into the care plan and we are supposed to chart under these. Thanks to Whoever-Started-This-Mess that decided to hyper-focus on using "the patient's own words" [insert unicorns and rainbows here], we are now charting under these bizarre "goals". Yes, I'm charting about suicidal ideation on the care plan for "Risk for Suicide" under the patient's stated goal of "To get the hell out of here."

    On my more ornery shifts, I almost hope for the most ludicrous response to this question. I think the best answer I ever got was "none of your business, sweetheart", which was given to me by the world's crankiest, crispiest old lady

    On some patients, yes, I can work with them and pull out a reasonable goal... most of them? Not really and I don't really try anymore.

    The only time I look at the care plan is when I have to set it up with a new admission or when I have to chart through the care plan. No, I do not update it. I do not care. It is a sham. The only people who care are the people who are paid to make things look good on paper for Joint Commission.

    This is how I really feel.

  • Jun 24

    Quote from djamies
    Actually, I am a nurse - for 18 years. I hate care plans, too, and generally believe they are as helpful as they have ever been. However, we are being told that the "pt/family long/short term goal" is going to be automatically added on every patient, and my principal trainer told us that there is not a list of goals because TJC requires it to be the patient's/family's statement. The thing is I need to train the RN's the way we should do things, not the real world way, you know what I mean?
    This is the frustrating part. Everyone knows it's bogus!


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