Medic15251

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1. Tired of EMS thinking they can walk in!

   Medic15251 replied to TraumaNurseRN's topic in Emergency

   They require you to be licensed as an RN to practice as one here as well. Same with medics. To practice as a medic you have to be licensed as one. Medics here are not practicing as RN's in the ER. They are practicing as medics in house, but as we...

2. Tired of EMS thinking they can walk in!

   Medic15251 replied to TraumaNurseRN's topic in Emergency

   I guess that is where we differ on opinions. I don't see it as an unlicensed personnel being allowed to function as an rn. I see it as a licensed medic being taught how to take what they already are licensed to do and apply it in house rather than ...

3. Tired of EMS thinking they can walk in!

   Medic15251 replied to TraumaNurseRN's topic in Emergency

   Traumanurse let me refresh your memory on what was said in the other thread. I never said that a paramedic is qualified to function as an rrt. I said: All I said is that there is some overlap in the skills and care both professions provide. I al...

4. Paramedics in the ER

   Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

   I think medic 09 pretty summed up why you are wrong on that point. I can't break this subject down to a simpler level for you to grasp. As I have said. In MO where I live, paramedics are allowed to do the same skills and have the same job descrip...

5. Paramedics in the ER

   Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

   Nope. My state values ems. As I said before, it's common here for medics to work in ER's and function essentially the same as an RN...doing the same skills, triaging, taking pt's, doing education etc. Medics here are actually allowed to do more sk...

6. Paramedics in the ER

   Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

   I agree 100% with that but also feel that with the appropriate orientation and additional training that paramedics could be utilized in an er functioning in a role very similar to a RN. Then remind me to never have an MI in your state! Wow! An A...

7. Paramedics in the ER

   Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

   Really? Well I have gone to paramedic school and speak from experience. When and where did you go to medic school? I totally disagree. This may have been true 12-15 years ago, but not now. Each week in paramedic school we were given 10 drugs....

8. Paramedics in the ER

   Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

   What a shame to waste such valuable resources. I am glad the state I work in values their medics to allow them to function with more autonomy in the ED setting. Here, medics are licensed and work off of protocols or doctor's orders. What state do ...

9. Paramedics in the ER

   Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

   The "knowledge base" you draw from in an ED as RN is hardly taught in nursing school. You learn theories in nursing school. You learn how to be an ED RN mostly on the job and during an orientation time. Doing clinicals with an RN in an ED is only...

10. Paramedics in the ER

    Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

    You bring up a good point. EMS is in it's infancy compared to nursing. Until an associates degree is required for entry into the field and EMS has a bigger voice in government, it will still be viewed as more of a vocation than a profession. I th...

11. Paramedics in the ER

    Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

    Then we have a fundamental disagreement. It has been my observation that traditional adn programs in my area put their students through a couple of shifts in an ed. They basically just observe and might attempt an iv start or pass some po meds. The...

12. Paramedics in the ER

    Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

    I'm not saying that a brand new paramedic would be 100% proficient working in an ED in a nursing role. What I am saying is that this medic would be better prepared than a brand new nurse. Of course there would be some minimal, additional training n...

13. Paramedics in the ER

    Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

    Quite the opposite. Many medics would never want to work in house. FOr myself though, I enjoyed working as a medic in an ed, but didn't think it was fair that I was doing the same job but getting paid less for it. That's why I went to nursing schoo...

14. Paramedics in the ER

    Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

    I have to disagree. Most programs today require a great deal of time in the ed. Much of a medic student's time in an ed is spent following an rn. They see and experience first hand what an rn does in an ed.

15. Paramedics in the ER

    Medic15251 replied to errneducator's topic in Emergency

    See, I think they can have more than just an assistant role. I think they should be able to take patients and function essentially the same as an rn in an ed setting.