Med-Surg floor sucks, and nursing unions - page 4

by coco42rn 28,991 Views | 75 Comments

I went back to a Med-Surg floor after a long time, I had previously worked on a med-surg unit once years ago and dont remember it being this bad. There are no unions in this part of the country and I would like to hear from some... Read More


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    Quote from Steve_e
    Guttercat, what do you want aurora to do, pack up her belongings, family, and move to where, Cali? and rent a 1 br apartment for 1400 a month? or buy a house for 3/4 million? Like me here in upstate NY, I have a house thats mine, don't owe a dime on it. All my vehicles are paid for, so yeah I may be only making 25 dollars an hour, but I don't have any bills.. Other than gas, food, and gas&electric. I'm very comfortable. Moving to cali would put me in debt up to my eyeballs, I know many of my friends who made that move and came back with their tails behind their legs because they couldn't afford it


    I'm not speaking of California.

    I live in idyllic, mountain surroundings in the PNW, a moderate-sized community, very low utility costs, and where median home prices (for nicer ones) start in the $180-$200K range.

    Starting hourly wages for new brand new RN's with no experience are well into mid to upper $20's. Those of us with 12 or more years are in the mid $30's-$40's.

    Again, $17.00/hr anywhere in this country, are stagnant wages for RN's, dating back to 1995 even in the historically lowest paid states (Wyoming, Texas, Montana).

    Take a look at some data and nursing is not the only middle income group to utterly stagnate over the last twenty years. Middle income gains in that time have practically come to a standstill.
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    I work in the Minneapolis area, on a med-surg floor at a union hospital. I started there after 11 months at a nursing home. As a one-year nurse I started at $30.29 and hour, with a $4 shift diff (I work straight nights). As far as I know, most of the hospitals in the area pay around the same, within a few dollars. My hospital also offers money each year for continuing education, and pays a bonus for up to 2 certifications you may hold. I like that they encourage us to remain educated.

    I work on a busy 20 bed med/surg/ortho/neuro/tele floor. Days has 3-5 patients, along with one or two NAs. Eves is usually 4-5 with one or two NAs. Nights we usually have 4-6, but no aide, unless we're over 18 pts on the floor and aren't staffed up on the RN side. We usually have an NA flyer and an RN flyer on each shift that we can call for help with task-based stuff. It's very busy, because our pts are often sick, and/or complex surgical pts. I read about people working until 10 am and I'm thankful for a super crazy night meaning I might end up with an hour of OT.
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    There are houses in Cali that you can buy for 200k-300k. And there are places to rent starting at $600...and they aren't in the slums either. If you want to be able to afford living in Cali and working as a nurse...you can look for job in Northern California..where it is more affordable. And I'm talking about past the Bay area. Do you REALLY need a home that costs 750k? I mean, c'mon, really. Common sense...choose to live within your means.
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    I work in a city where if you say the word "union" the giant mega corp who owns the city (no really, they do!) will fire you and you never work in town again! I prefer nights...but at my "lovely" hospital we routinely have 7-10 fresh post surg patients and medical people who should be on the unit but aren't on nights, and on DAYs we may have 7-8! NOT SAFE! I had one night the other month where I had 12 people, by myself, at night AS A NEW GRAD! ****!

    The surg part is fine but I hate medical, hate it so much, and hate this floor. We call it the 8th level of hell for a reason.
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    The med-surg floor and the hospital I worked at...same as my colleagues had a max of 4 patients. There is a law in CA that prohibits someone from taking more than 4 patients during a shift.
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    Quote from nvsmom
    There are houses in Cali that you can buy for 200k-300k. And there are places to rent starting at $600...and they aren't in the slums either. If you want to be able to afford living in Cali and working as a nurse...you can look for job in Northern California..where it is more affordable. And I'm talking about past the Bay area. Do you REALLY need a home that costs 750k? I mean, c'mon, really. Common sense...choose to live within your means.
    I live in Northern California (Sacramento), and yes, nurses make a lot of money here, but there are NO jobs. Even experienced nurses have a hard time finding work because this area is saturated with nurses. Cost of living in Sacramento is also quite a bit higher than $600/month rent. The Bay area is ridiculously expensive cost-of-living wise, and Southern California, for all its high cost-of-living, pays a lot less than Sacramento. It doesn't make sense, but when I worked in SoCal, I started at $29 an hour, but my rent was $1300+, not to mention utilities and other bills. Good thing I didn't have student loans at that time, because I had no money left over.

    The ratios in California are state mandated: 5:1 Med-Surg, 4:1 Tele. On my BMT unit, we had three on days and four on nights. That is a great benefit of California!
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    As far as jobs, the program I was referring to which had students from the previous graduating class...about 50% of the graduating class within 1 month after graduation and taking the NCLEX had full-time job with most beginning at $46 an hour. This school has a great rep with hospitals and is a BSN program.
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    I have been working in med/surg for 9 months and I make $48.00 an hour. I am in disbelief at the low pay elsewhere!
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    What? 48$/hr, that's exactly double my pay per hr, man I need to move to your hospital
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    I really don't know what to do I don't like med surg and I work on such a crazy unit where there is no team work no nothing. I got offered a part time day position at detox pay is 31/hr. however the med surg position is 42/hr. I don't know what to do


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