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Sep 14, 2009 12:26 AM

Can another nurse chart on behalf of you?

by Truegem

Let's say you forgot to chart something. Can't you call the charge nurse and have her write "dressing changed at 0300." per N. Jones, RN and then she signs her name too? (My example isn't the greatest, but you know what I mean.)
I have heard that this is acceptable, but my peers are saying no.
What if you forgot to chart something very important and you can't get back to the hospital because you are going on vacation?
It seems to me this should be ok.
In fact, I'm sure I read somewhere that this is acceptable, but I don't recall where I read it.
Thanks, Patti


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No. 1
Old Sep 14, 2009, 01:01 PM

Default Re: Can another nurse chart on behalf of you?
Generally, no.

Instead, you'll need to make a late entry in the chart, which by the time you get back from vacation, will likely be somewhere deep in the bowels of the medical records department. You ask them for the chart and explain why, write your note with the current date and "late entry for date/time" and sign. The charge nurse cannot write a note for you, she did not see you do the dressing change (or whatever you forgot to chart); in fact, no nurse with any smarts is going to risk her/his license by charting something for another nurse unless s/he personally witnessed it.

The reason for this is CYA---if a malpractice case were ever to be brought to a court of law, the veracity of a nurse who charts something s/he did not see or do would be seriously questioned, which casts a bad light on the rest of that nurse's testimony to say the least. The take-home lesson here is simply, do your own charting, and if you forget something---and we all do from time to time---rectify it as soon as you possibly can.
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No. 2
from Truegem
Old Sep 15, 2009, 05:46 PM

Default Re: Can another nurse chart on behalf of you?
I'm sure I've read somewhere that it's ok. The nurse doesn't need to have witnessed that she saw you, she is just writing what you tell her. She will indicate this in her charting. Also, you can co-sign it when you get back. I'm sure I read somewhere that it's ok, I'm going to ask the BRN.
Thank you for your response.
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No. 3
Old Sep 22, 2009, 11:54 PM

Default Re: Can another nurse chart on behalf of you?
At my facility anyone can chart if you give them express permission. They type in my login name(they have no access to my password) and chart that I gave the medication, treatment, etc. and that they charted this occurence. This allows for the occurence to be charted without interruption of the patients' care.
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No. 4
from caliotter3
Old Sep 23, 2009, 12:00 AM

Default Re: Can another nurse chart on behalf of you?
My DON rewrote a nurse's entry and wrote in the entry that she was rewriting it. I thought it was irregular at the time; we other nurses talked about it, but nobody would say anything to her. In that particular instance, the DON was present when the occurrence took place, so she could have made an entry anyway. But what made it wrong, in my mind's eye, was that the original entry left the chart for parts unknown. I couldn't understand why the DON would make the statement she did and remove the other entry.
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No. 5
from noreenl
Old Sep 24, 2009, 07:42 AM

Default Re: Can another nurse chart on behalf of you?
What did the original writer have to say about her note and the DON rewrite?
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No. 6
from BabyLady
Old Sep 24, 2009, 09:03 AM

Default Re: Can another nurse chart on behalf of you?
Originally Posted by sharihamill22 View Post
At my facility anyone can chart if you give them express permission. They type in my login name(they have no access to my password) and chart that I gave the medication, treatment, etc. and that they charted this occurence. This allows for the occurence to be charted without interruption of the patients' care.
Honestly....that is false charting.

Someone else that didn't witness the event is entering information into a chart and signing your name without any indication that someone else entered the information.

Do you go back and check it?

Probably not...b/c if it ever went to court, you sure as heck can't use the "Susie Q typed it in wrong" as an excuse.

Because the attorney for the Plaintiff would say, "But it's YOUR initials!!!"
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No. 7
from Darknights
Old Sep 26, 2009, 05:17 AM

Default Re: Can another nurse chart on behalf of you?
Why can't you say 'Phone call received from RN Jones. She stated that pts dressing was changed today at 0300?'
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No. 8
from nursel56
Old Sep 26, 2009, 06:28 AM

Default Re: Can another nurse chart on behalf of you?
Rewriting an entire nurse's note, charting that you are rewriting another nurse's entry is pretty bizarre. If the DON was present for whatever transpired relating to the patient, why wouldn't the DON just write her own note? If her intention was to C her A, all it really did was add to the general impression of sketchiness.

As far as forgetting to chart a treatment or med, yes we would call, because if you don't know whether the nurse gave the med and forgot to chart it or didn't give it altogether, that's a risk for error. They would make note of the communication from the preceding nurse, not charting that they had given the med or treatment. Then the nurse can initial it when she comes in again.
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No. 9
from BunnyRN
Old Oct 02, 2009, 08:04 PM

Lightbulb Re: Can another nurse chart on behalf of you?
I wouldn't take the chance because sometimes some nurses forget to do their work. I've come across some patients that denie certain treatments/medication given/done. Therefore, I will chart my own notes. Leave to each nurse to chart his or her note. Like someone posted earlier in court, you will be on your own. Can't blame it on someone else, when your name is on it.

Better to do a "late entry" to cover yourself.
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