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| | Nine Or More Meds?
Hello all my wonderful MDS friends,
Could someone share with me, their Care Plan for a resident on 9 or more meds? Our's is almost not there, lol, a bit embaressing. LOL
Thank you for helping me
Debbie in NY
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Apr 10, 2009, 08:53 AM
Re: Nine Or More Meds?
I so totaly hear that, but it comes up on our QI's, so the DON wants us to have CP in all charts . Extra work, but what makes "DON" happy makes everyone "Happy".....LOL
Have a great weekend
Debbie
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Apr 11, 2009, 08:23 AM
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Apr 11, 2009 at 09:09 AM by nursekara78
Re: Nine Or More Meds?
I don't care plan for this either. We document in our care plan meeting notes that......Res. cont. on # meds, meds are reviewed q month by MD and cont. to be necessarry to treat mult. Dx. We also have the MD doc. q month on rounds to support us if he can't d/c any meds.
Try to suggest an alternative to your DON. Explain that it is not needed for RAP and you are still documenting in the med. record etc.
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Apr 13, 2009, 03:31 PM
Re: Nine Or More Meds?
Is the problem of concern to the resident?
The care plan is not for--staff problems, DN problems, surveyor problems, lab tests, diagnoses, etc.
Don't think I ever heard a resident say "I have an ADL functional decline" or "I'm here for treatment of QI9meds" or "I'm S/P ORIF". | | No. 6 |
Apr 14, 2009, 05:46 AM
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Apr 14, 2009 at 05:51 AM by lisalake
Re: Nine Or More Meds? So right! We should be care-planning for the resident, not the staff, the QI’s or the surveyors….but this is what’s happening everywhere, and Debbie is right….coordinators are expected to, and instructed to care plan anything and everything whether a problem or a potential problem, or not a problem! It has become a tedious, all day long, never-ending job, and in many cases, without team participation. Whenever the resident farts, the first question to the MDS coordinator….”did you put a care plan in for that???? Did the resident smoke 20 years ago? Better care plan that! Did the resident complain about a staff member?? Better care plan that they are uncooperative and non-compliant!! Were they sad and crying 15 minutes ago??? Better call psych...and don't forget the care plan! We care plan the disease, the fall, the behavior, the mood, the med, the splint, the meal…and on and on, without really identifying if it is an actual problem for the resident…all to cover our butts….and please the surveyors’. | | No. 7 |
Apr 16, 2009, 07:42 PM
Re: Nine Or More Meds?
All i do is make sure that any major meds are included in the appropriate care plan. EX: atb for infection, or diuretic for edema,or bleed risk for anticoagulant etc etc. as far as QI/QM i make sure all dx are current, match the reason for the drugs, and make sure there aren't any unnecessary dublicates. of course this involves discussion with their physician if needed. i don't see a need to do a specific care plan just for 9 or more meds.
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Apr 23, 2009, 06:13 PM
Re: Nine Or More Meds? Originally Posted by lisalake So right! We should be care-planning for the resident, not the staff, the QI’s or the surveyors….but this is what’s happening everywhere, and Debbie is right….coordinators are expected to, and instructed to care plan anything and everything whether a problem or a potential problem, or not a problem! It has become a tedious, all day long, never-ending job, and in many cases, without team participation. Whenever the resident farts, the first question to the MDS coordinator….”did you put a care plan in for that???? Did the resident smoke 20 years ago? Better care plan that! Did the resident complain about a staff member?? Better care plan that they are uncooperative and non-compliant!! Were they sad and crying 15 minutes ago??? Better call psych...and don't forget the care plan! We care plan the disease, the fall, the behavior, the mood, the med, the splint, the meal…and on and on, without really identifying if it is an actual problem for the resident…all to cover our butts….and please the surveyors’.      
I laughed out loud!! so funny and true!
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