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Mar 31, 2009, 02:16 PM
 Re: Simmons versus MGH Direct Entry Nursing Originally Posted by Nursey Face  I have to disagree with people who stated to go to Simmon's if you want to work why you go and not stress too much. I went to Simmons and most of the women who went did not work and everyone was super stressed out. It's very vigorous and it's a lot of work. It's a great school.
I think that when people are talking about working it is because the school has mentioned in info sessions that they really want everyone to have a solid RN background because you are a nurse first, an NP second. At least in the info session 2 years ago they encouraged this RN experience during the second half of the program, but said that working during the first part was highly discouraged. The fact that they have the built-in internships is a big deal breaker because you are guaranteed to be getting the real life experience while you are in school, while other programs make it more difficult for you to work and go to school at the same time. Do you disagree having gone through it in the program? I would never want to work full time while in these programs, but I love the idea of the internship. The fact that it is paid is a big help as well. Obviously the course work is going to be just as challenging as any other school in Boston, but I think their set-up is great.
How was your experience? Any advice is greatly appreciated!
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Mar 31, 2009, 03:33 PM
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Mar 31, 2009 at 06:09 PM by Silverdragon102
Re: Simmons versus MGH Direct Entry Nursing
I think the first year before taking the NCLEX is what the schools are referring to. You must be full-time. After that, you can go part time and it is encouraged for the students to work part time (16 hours) to gain RN experience. The way I look at it, is this: If you are accepted to one the schools in Boston, you're in great shape, they are all great and have a great National presence. Whether you go to MGH or Simmons, Or BC or NU, you are on the right path. The funny thing is, 3 or 4 years from now, you will meet on one of the Med-surg floors and discuss when we went to NP schools. Just keep your heads up and brace yourself for a challenging 3 years. The finance piece is what gets me so scared. I will be owing a ------ load of money when am done and hope to be making enough to pay it back. Please let's do the best to keep this line of communication going a support. We will need it! Have you guys figured out how you're gonna pay for this? LOANS! LOANS! LOANS? Living expenses? it's crazy! Please share your thoughts.
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Apr 02, 2009, 05:47 PM
Re: Simmons versus MGH Direct Entry Nursing
GOOD Day folks! Has anyone given some thoughts to the fact that in the first 1 1/2 year, you will not be awarded a BSN? I am hearing from a few NP students who passed their NCLEX that they are not able to find a job because they don't have a BSN. So, Only a Diploma is awarded, I don't even think it's an associate. So, it's only beneficial once you're all done with the whole NP degree that it would be easier to find a job. I am starting my program in the Fall 09, and a little bit concerned about it. Why don't the schools award BSN, the the MSN? what do they have to lose? I don't get it...So, what if someone is done with the first part, get the NCLEX and happen to be sick or sick child, then you're stuck with a huge loan with only a Diploma in nursing and a pain in the ---- to find a decent job. I am thinking hard about this. Can anyone please share their views and opinions on this....Maybe we should all rally and demand a BSN degree for the first portion, it only makes sense. I think Regis does,and that's about it... let me know what you think.
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Apr 02, 2009, 07:08 PM
Re: Simmons versus MGH Direct Entry Nursing
As it's been explained to me, Simmons is an all female undergraduate school. They can't/won't issue bachelors to males, and don't want to play with the legalities of issuing BSN's to one gender and not the other for the same amount of $$/work.
MGH is another school that doesn't issue a BSN on the way to a direct entry MSN. Their explanation is that they are a graduate institution only. Originally Posted by NPNICO Has anyone given some thoughts to the fact that in the first 1 1/2 year, you will not be awarded a BSN? I am hearing from a few NP students who passed their NCLEX that they are not able to find a job because they don't have a BSN. ...Why don't the schools award BSN, the the MSN? what do they have to lose? I don't get it... | | No. 24 |
Apr 02, 2009, 07:52 PM
Re: Simmons versus MGH Direct Entry Nursing
.....But MGH is not just a Graduate Institute, as they have an Accelerated BSN program. I am thinking thi whole thing is a money maker business too. It's a way to force the students to stay in for the who 3-year MSN program and pay up....LOL. As for the Oh well, I guess we'll have to see if it really makes a difference, right? I just wish they would just award a BSN which would make it much easier to land a job in one of the hospitals and get some good clinical experience as we're entering the 2nd year/NP portion.
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Apr 02, 2009, 08:28 PM
Re: Simmons versus MGH Direct Entry Nursing
Could someone please fill me in on the differences between someone who has a BSN and someone that has an RN? What about someone that has an bachelors in another field (such as biology) and then an RN in addition to that bachelors? Are there pay differences between the degrees?
Thanks for the help!
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Apr 03, 2009, 07:01 AM
Re: Simmons versus MGH Direct Entry Nursing
I didn't say it had to make sense, just that that was their explanation for not offering a BSN halfway through the Direct Entry program. There was some mumbo-jumbo about an accreditation issue. Personally, though, I favor your theory.
During the information session, they said that the accelerated and direct entry programs were pretty much identical during the earlier portion of the tracks. They said that it was possible to switch programs after you had enrolled. So, theoretically, you could enroll in the accelerated program, and then switch to the direct entry program, giving you both degrees. Originally Posted by NPNICO .....But MGH is not just a Graduate Institute, as they have an Accelerated BSN program. I am thinking thi whole thing is a money maker business too. It's a way to force the students to stay in for the who 3-year MSN program and pay up.... | | No. 27 |
Apr 03, 2009, 08:57 AM
Re: Simmons versus MGH Direct Entry Nursing
Mmmmm!!!! But then your status will change from Direct-Entry to BSN-to MSN. First of all in order to be accepted to the Direct-Entry, one must already have at least a Bachelors, some people already have 2 bachelors, others with Masters, etc. So, why can't transfer their credits towards the BSN degree? Who Knows? Right? Tozz, will you be going to the MGH?
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Apr 03, 2009, 10:29 AM
Re: Simmons versus MGH Direct Entry Nursing
Does anyone know the logic behind the amount of credits each school require for the MSN program? BC requires 70credits, while Simmons and MGH require 90-91. What's up with that? Of course, if you're paying cost/credit, BC ends up being way cheaper than MGH, am not sure what the cost/credit is for Simmons. How interesting, eh? Please share your 2 cents....
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