The Guys Club: Guy Students Come on In! - page 18

Hi All! I'm a crazy father of 2 ex-premed who just recently turned down Northwestern to go into a RN program. I already have an Associate in Science, but I'll be getting another ADN and then... Read More

  1. by   menetopali
    mjollnir,

    i haven't had much extra 'grunt work' thrown my way. that may or may not be because of where i work (a GI lab) doesn't get patients that require alot of physical strength to handle. on the rare occasion that a patient gets a bit more 'active' under sedation than we would expect or like, I have been called into a room to help on occasion. i hope this helps.
  2. by   ceska2
    Single 21 year old senior nursing student from Grand Rapids Michigan. Im done in August!! Plan on working in the SICU short term and then heading anesthesia school.

    Ceska2
  3. by   agent
    Guys' Club Creator Update:
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    Am I just an ass or does the constant complaining and whining about how nurses are having it so rough, not making enough money, and not being respected really starting to annoy anyone else??

    I keep posting to these threads asking them what they think a possible solution is. Hardly any of the thread originators ever post a response. I can tell you I'm pretty fed up.

    I think I'm so prepared though that if when I graduate so doc or anyone is going to dog me, give me ****** pay, or just generally disrespect me, I will annihilate them.

    Let's here it for selling yourself tall and not short, and standing up for yourself.

    1. About pay:

    There's a nursing shortage because nurses don't want to work some of these jobs, not cause there's actually a shortage right?

    This should open the door for shopping around and negotiating a much higher salary somewhere else. There's jobs out there. Stop acting like a old doormat and go show what you're worth.

    Bottom line: If you can't do it yourself then just unionize.. geezus.

    2. About respect: Two things about respect

    Respect is earned, and respect is commanded. You need to be able to command the respect that you have earned from doing a good job. If you cannot command it, people will generally not give you the courtesy even though you deserve it.

    If you're new, earn the respect. Once you've earned it, be the owner of it. Command it and drive it to fulfill your own needs.


    That's all. Sorry for the rant, but its been seriously bothering me.
  4. by   tnstudentnurse
    Well for me I am in tn and in the first semester of nursing school and it is kiling me big time. I am glad i found the guys club. at jscc there is 10 guys to about 61 girls.

    hoorah guys!
  5. by   agent
    Thanks for stopping by

    I hope for this to be a good spot for us to share our experiences
  6. by   Gragorin
    I'm not quite a student nurse but it's something that I have been thinking about. I'm currenly a network engineer who's been doing this for about 10 years now and I'm finally just sick of it. The lack of the emotional rewards and the lack of a feeling that I've actually done something to help somebody.

    I'm not sure which way I'll go though. I'm at the very least going to get a BSN. I'm even considering to go full med but I'm not sure about the time required.

    Anywho, as I posted to another thread. Wether I want to get into the field or not is somewhat irrelevant due to a toal lack of available classes in my area to complete the pre-reqs and even the core classes. It's very frustrating since I've been trying for going on two semesters now to get the Biology classes.
  7. by   Altra
    Originally posted by agent
    Guys' Club Creator Update:
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    Am I just an ass or does the constant complaining and whining about how nurses are having it so rough, not making enough money, and not being respected really starting to annoy anyone else??
    ...

    I think I'm so prepared though that if when I graduate so doc or anyone is going to dog me, give me ****** pay, or just generally disrespect me, I will annihilate them.
    ...

    Let's here it for selling yourself tall and not short, and standing up for yourself.
    That's all. Sorry for the rant, but its been seriously bothering me.
    No, I don't think you're an ass, Agent ... it's been bugging me too, and somehow there's no "Female-But-Not-A-Doormat" forum for me to post that in, so I hope nobody minds if I do it here.

    I think it comes down to 2 things for long-term nurses: 1) the total cultural change that came to health care with managed care, and 2) having to re-learn the "rules of the game" - getting along in the almost all-female world of nursing and co-existing with almost all-male docs meant one thing 20 years ago - and it means something vastly different now. This is not unique to nursing - there are plenty of people in every profession who long for the "good old days." I'm not saying things are better/worse now or then - I can't - I don't have the experience. But this is just my observation. I'm glad I'm not going into nursing with that kind of baggage.

    Just my 2 cents - I'll go back to the chicks' side of the room now - lol.

    Leigh
  8. by   Ned the Red
    The thing is that MOST professions are like this any more. It isn't just nursing that's gone through a change. The contract between companies and their employees where you work hard and expect to have a job has been broken by corporate America and the CEOs who pull down obscene paychecks. There are a couple of differences between nursing and what I do (contract management and purchasing), though. One is that if I screw up something on the job or don't get my work done no one dies or gets sick. The other difference is that if I quit my job or lose it I'll have to look for months and months to find another. Nurses on the other hand have jobs where there isn't a lot of room for error. The good thing is that a nurse can always get another job.... might not be a good one but it's a job.

    So, while I can look at the place where I work and think they're not doing things right I don't need to get personally invested in it. As a nurse I'm sure I'll take it a lot more seriously. At the same time, if I'm working somewhere and they insist on treating me like a dog I'll be sure to open the paper, look for someplace offering signing bonuses, etc. and take a fast hike.

    Everyone I know (outside nursing) would be glad to change jobs but can't. It seems nurses are more dedicated to their pts, their employers, and their institutions and although they can find another job easier they are less likely to quit.

    Does my rambling make any sense? And, as always - the disclaimer that I'm not a nurse (yet) so there's always the possibility that I'm all wet!
  9. by   EMOhio
    Just wanted to say hey as a new guy club member. I am 31 and started an accelereated BSN program this past summer with a class of 36 people. We started with 6 guys, but two of them have since dropped out.

    Because we take all of our classes together, we have gotten to know each other quite well. The guys do tend to sit at the back of the class together, but really everyone gets along well. One thing I have noticed is that our instructors seem to never put guys together in the the same clinical. Oh well.
  10. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Originally posted by agent
    Yeah i think applying a sex term to nursing is rediculous..

    They dont say "female doctor" even though doctoring has been a notoriously male dominated profession in the past.
    yes I have heard this said many times in my career....

    just like "female airman"when I was in the USAF. You can overcome this. It will be there. Don't let it get to ya.
  11. by   agent
    Thanks to Ned and MLOS for your thoughtful contributions.

    I wholeheartedly agree with both of your posts.
  12. by   Marie_LPN, RN
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    Last edit by Marie_LPN, RN on Apr 13, '05 : Reason: same reason
  13. by   agent
    But c'mon its not like most of us don't have prior work experience where we already deal with this kind of crap.

    I am speaking from experience.. ignore me if you don't agree.

    I dont think I said anything wrong

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