The Guys Club: Guy Students Come on In! - page 16

Hi All! I'm a crazy father of 2 ex-premed who just recently turned down Northwestern to go into a RN program. I already have an Associate in Science, but I'll be getting another ADN and then... Read More

  1. by   Wanabe
    Apex,

    Checkout this info from the bureau of labor and statistics website.
    Answers to some of your questions. Hope this is okay to post....



    Registered Nurses
    Nature of the Work | Working Conditions | Employment | Training, Other Qualifications, and Advancement | Job Outlook | Earnings | Related Occupations | Sources of Additional Information

    Significant Points


    The largest health care occupation, with more than 2 million jobs.
    One of the 10 occupations projected to have the largest numbers of new jobs.
    Job opportunities are expected to be very good.
    Earnings are above average, particularly for advanced practice nurses, who have additional education or training.

    Nature of the Work [About this section] Back to Top

    Registered nurses (RNs) work to promote health, prevent disease, and help patients cope with illness. They are advocates and health educators for patients, families, and communities. When providing direct patient care, they observe, assess, and record symptoms, reactions, and progress; assist physicians during treatments and examinations; administer medications; and assist in convalescence and rehabilitation. RNs also develop and manage nursing care plans; instruct patients and their families in proper care; and help individuals and groups take steps to improve or maintain their health. While State laws govern the tasks that RNs may perform, it is usually the work setting that determines their daily job duties.

    Hospital nurses form the largest group of nurses. Most are staff nurses, who provide bedside nursing care and carry out medical regimens. They also may supervise licensed practical nurses and nursing aides. Hospital nurses usually are assigned to one area, such as surgery, maternity, pediatrics, emergency room, intensive care, or treatment of cancer patients. Some may rotate among departments.

    Office nurses care for outpatients in physicians' offices, clinics, surgicenters, and emergency medical centers. They prepare patients for and assist with examinations, administer injections and medications, dress wounds and incisions, assist with minor surgery, and maintain records. Some also perform routine laboratory and office work.

    Nursing home nurses manage nursing care for residents with conditions ranging from a fracture to Alzheimer's disease. Although they often spend much of their time on administrative and supervisory tasks, RNs also assess residents' health condition, develop treatment plans, supervise licensed practical nurses and nursing aides, and perform difficult procedures such as starting intravenous fluids. They also work in specialty-care departments, such as long-term rehabilitation units for patients with strokes and head-injuries.

    Home health nurses provide periodic services to patients at home. After assessing patients' home environments, they care for and instruct patients and their families. Home health nurses care for a broad range of patients, such as those recovering from illnesses and accidents, cancer, and childbirth. They must be able to work independently, and may supervise home health aides.

    Public health nurses work in government and private agencies and clinics, schools, retirement communities, and other community settings. They focus on populations, working with individuals, groups, and families to improve the overall health of communities. They also work as partners with communities to plan and implement programs. Public health nurses instruct individuals, families, and other groups regarding health issues, disease prevention, nutrition, and childcare. They arrange for immunizations, blood pressure testing, and other health screening. These nurses also work with community leaders, teachers, parents, and physicians in community health education.

    Occupational health or industrial nurses provide nursing care at worksites to employees, customers, and others with minor injuries and illnesses. They provide emergency care, prepare accident reports, and arrange for further care if necessary. They also offer health counseling, assist with health examinations and inoculations, and assess work environments to identify potential health or safety problems.

    Head nurses or nurse supervisors direct nursing activities. They plan work schedules and assign duties to nurses and aides, provide or arrange for training, and visit patients to observe nurses and to ensure the proper delivery of care. They also may see that records are maintained and equipment and supplies are ordered.

    At the advanced level, nurse practitioners provide basic primary healthcare. They diagnose and treat common acute illnesses and injuries. Nurse practitioners also can prescribe medications(but certification and licensing requirements vary by State. Other advanced practice nurses include clinical nurse specialists, certified registered nurse anesthetists, and certified nurse-midwives. Advanced practice nurses must meet higher educational and clinical practice requirements beyond the basic nursing education and licensing required of all RNs.

    Working Conditions [About this section] Back to Top


    Most nurses work in well-lighted, comfortable healthcare facilities. Home health and public health nurses travel to patients' homes, schools, community centers, and other sites. Nurses may spend considerable time walking and standing. They need emotional stability to cope with human suffering, emergencies, and other stresses. Patients in hospitals and nursing homes require 24-hour care; consequently, nurses in these institutions may work nights, weekends, and holidays. RNs also may be on-call(available to work on short notice. Office, occupational health, and public health nurses are more likely to work regular business hours. Almost 1 in 10 RNs held more than one job in 2000.

    Nursing has its hazards, especially in hospitals, nursing homes, and clinics where nurses may care for individuals with infectious diseases. Nurses must observe rigid guidelines to guard against disease and other dangers, such as those posed by radiation, chemicals used for sterilization of instruments, and anesthetics. In addition, they are vulnerable to back injury when moving patients, shocks from electrical equipment, and hazards posed by compressed gases.

    Employment [About this section] Back to Top


    As the largest healthcare occupation, registered nurses held about 2.2 million jobs in 2000. About 3 out of 5 jobs were in hospitals, in inpatient and outpatient departments. Others were mostly in offices and clinics of physicians and other health practitioners, home healthcare agencies, nursing homes, temporary help agencies, schools, and government agencies. The remainder worked in residential care facilities, social service agencies, religious organizations, research facilities, management and public relations firms, insurance agencies, and private households. About 1 out of 4 RNs worked part time.



    Training, Other Qualifications, and Advancement [About this section] Back to Top

    In all States and the District of Columbia, students must graduate from an approved nursing program and pass a national licensing examination to obtain a nursing license. Nurses may be licensed in more than one State, either by examination, by endorsement of a license issued by another State, or through a multi-State licensing agreement. All States require periodic license renewal, which may involve continuing education.

    There are three major educational paths to registered nursing: associate degree in nursing (A.D.N.), bachelor of science degree in nursing (B.S.N.), and diploma. A.D.N. programs, offered by community and junior colleges, take about 2 to 3 years. About half of the 1,700 RN programs in 2000 were at the A.D.N. level. B.S.N. programs, offered by colleges and universities, take 4 or 5 years. More than one-third of all programs in 2000 offered degrees at the bachelor's level. Diploma programs, administered in hospitals, last 2 to 3 years. Only a small number of programs offer diploma-level degrees. Generally, licensed graduates of any of the three program types qualify for entry-level positions as staff nurses.

    Many A.D.N. and diploma-educated nurses later enter bachelor's programs to prepare for a broader scope of nursing practice. They can often find a staff nurse position and then take advantage of tuition reimbursement programs to work toward a B.S.N.

    Individuals considering nursing should carefully weigh the pros and cons of enrolling in a B.S.N. program because, if they do so, their advancement opportunities usually are broader. In fact, some career paths are open only to nurses with bachelor's or advanced degrees. A bachelor's degree is often necessary for administrative positions, and it is a prerequisite for admission to graduate nursing programs in research, consulting, teaching, or a clinical specialization.

    Nursing education includes classroom instruction and supervised clinical experience in hospitals and other health facilities. Students take courses in anatomy, physiology, microbiology, chemistry, nutrition, psychology and other behavioral sciences, and nursing. Coursework also includes the liberal arts.

    Supervised clinical experience is provided in hospital departments such as pediatrics, psychiatry, maternity, and surgery. A growing number of programs include clinical experience in nursing homes, public health departments, home health agencies, and ambulatory clinics.

    Nurses should be caring and sympathetic. They must be able to accept responsibility, direct or supervise others, follow orders precisely, and determine when consultation is required.

    Experience and good performance can lead to promotion to more responsible positions. Nurses can advance, in management, to assistant head nurse or head nurse. From there, they can advance to assistant director, director, and vice president. Increasingly, management-level nursing positions require a graduate degree in nursing or health services administration. They also require leadership, negotiation skills, and good judgment. Graduate programs preparing executive-level nurses usually last 1 to 2 years.

    Within patient care, nurses can advance to clinical nurse specialist, nurse practitioner, certified nurse-midwife, or certified registered nurse anesthetist. These positions require 1 or 2 years of graduate education, leading to a master's degree or, in some instances, to a certificate.

    Some nurses move into the business side of healthcare. Their nursing expertise and experience on a healthcare team equip them to manage ambulatory, acute, home health, and chronic care services. Healthcare corporations employ nurses for health planning and development, marketing, and quality assurance. Other nurses work as college and university faculty or do research.

    Job Outlook [About this section] Back to Top


    Job opportunities for RNs are expected to be very good. Employment of registered nurses is expected to grow faster than the average for all occupations through 2010, and because the occupation is very large, many new jobs will result. Thousands of job openings also will result from the need to replace experienced nurses who leave the occupation, especially as the median age of the registered nurse population continues to rise.

    Some States report current and projected shortages of RNs, primarily due to an aging RN workforce and recent declines in nursing school enrollments. Imbalances between the supply of and demand for qualified workers should spur efforts to attract and retain qualified RNs. For example, employers may restructure workloads, improve compensation and working conditions, and subsidize training or continuing education.

    Faster than average growth will be driven by technological advances in patient care, which permit a greater number of medical problems to be treated, and an increasing emphasis on preventive care. In addition, the number of older people, who are much more likely than younger people to need nursing care, is projected to grow rapidly.

    Employment in hospitals, the largest sector, is expected to grow more slowly than in other healthcare sectors. While the intensity of nursing care is likely to increase, requiring more nurses per patient, the number of inpatients (those who remain in the hospital for more than 24 hours) is not likely to increase much. Patients are being discharged earlier and more procedures are being done on an outpatient basis, both in and outside hospitals. However, rapid growth is expected in hospital outpatient facilities, such as those providing same-day surgery, rehabilitation, and chemotherapy.

    Employment in home healthcare is expected to grow rapidly. This is in response to the growing number of older persons with functional disabilities, consumer preference for care in the home, and technological advances that make it possible to bring increasingly complex treatments into the home. The type of care demanded will require nurses who are able to perform complex procedures.

    Employment in nursing homes is expected to grow faster than average due to increases in the number of elderly, many of whom require long-term care. In addition, the financial pressure on hospitals to discharge patients as soon as possible should produce more nursing home admissions. Growth in units that provide specialized long-term rehabilitation for stroke and head injury patients or that treat Alzheimer's victims also will increase employment.

    An increasing proportion of sophisticated procedures, which once were performed only in hospitals, are being performed in physicians' offices and clinics, including ambulatory surgicenters and emergency medical centers. Accordingly, employment is expected to grow faster than average in these places as healthcare in general expands.

    In evolving integrated health care networks, nurses may rotate among employment settings. Because jobs in traditional hospital nursing positions are no longer the only option, RNs will need to be flexible. Opportunities should be excellent, particularly for nurses with advanced education and training.

    Earnings [About this section] Back to Top


    Median annual earnings of registered nurses were $44,840 in 2000. The middle 50 percent earned between $37,870 and $54,000. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $31,890, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $64,360. Median annual earnings in the industries employing the largest numbers of registered nurses in 2000 were as follows:



    Personnel supply services $46,860
    Hospitals 45,780
    Home health care services 43,640
    Offices and clinics of medical doctors 43,480
    Nursing and personal care facilities 41,330

    Many employers offer flexible work schedules, childcare, educational benefits, and bonuses.
  2. by   agent
    Originally posted by jayna
    Am I late in saying welcome?

    WELCOME GUYS

    Got a good Suggestion to make

    It would be great for the guys to have their own thread title. 'Mens world' or 'Male discussion' or "guys club". Ask the moderators about it. Most of them are males by the way.

    :angel2: :angel2:
    Thats what this thread is. Did you mean forum?
  3. by   FutureRN~Pookie
    Wellllllll, I LOVE this thread. Now I know where the boys are at! *waves at all the guys, and smiles at the single ones* Haha, just kidding, I think this thread was a wonderful idea for all you guys who are kinda ...."shy" around all us women. Come out come out, where ever you are!


    Kacy
  4. by   agent
    Thanks for the praise.

    I think guys are starting to see that all that MURSE stigma is bs and nursing is a valid profession for men.

    Now if only the rest of society and the media would support the notion that there is a place in nursing for men.

    At least on the show ER, they've had a male nurse Malik for quite a while
  5. by   jayna
    Originally posted by agent
    Thats what this thread is. Did you mean forum?

    oops..yeah
  6. by   Bunky1960
    Yes, I am starting a second degree program at Georgetown in January, but worked as a social worker before. Being in a woman dominated profession can be very educational. I learned a lot as a social worker working with women and look forward to learning even more from nurses - female and male.
    David
  7. by   agent
    Good for you David
  8. by   Boomer Sooner
    Just another guy checking in. Making the transition from computer programmer to nursing.

    JP
  9. by   Ned the Red
    OK, guys... I see that for many of us this is or will be a second career. I also notice that one of the problems with nursing is that hospitals (some of them) just don't get it. They've hired professionals and are willing to pay bonuses to get them but then don't treat them professionally. What other business would hire you for a full time job and then send you home if business is slow... then tell you to stay by the phone in case they need you.

    So, my question is twofold - How many of you put up with this in your previous career and are willing to put up with it as an RN? And, do you think male RNs get off easier than females?

    Oh boy, this should get things going....
    Last edit by Ned the Red on Oct 14, '03
  10. by   agent
    Yeah I was hired as a computer tech (professional) at a large software company. I swear management treats us like kids way too much.. its very frustrating.

    I will try to command some degree of respect this time around
  11. by   LVN2BeHou
    <<ORIGINALLY POSTED BY VETTECH>>

    I'm a male ADN student. I'll be starting in 2 weeks at San Jacinto College in Houston.

    Being the rare guy isn't that big of a deal. When I got my Vet Tech degree (vet equivalent of an ADN) I was the only male in a graduating class of 28. From what I saw in orientation, it looks like men will be mopre common this time around.

    -----I'm currently an LVN student @ Galveston College just south of clear lake, TX...started taking pre-reqs for the ADN program at San Jacinto College but switched down to Galveston College. I graduate in May and have already started IV piggy back drugs (we're already through injections/PO meds, etc)...noticed MATTHEWCAIN is from houston 2--good to see some peeps from the area!! It's been pretty tough so far, but I plan to transition to get my ADN within 2 years and will eventually get my MSN and be a CRNA or NP--:-) feel free to PM me if ya'll need any help!
  12. by   FunGi
    Just checkin in...another male student here...one more semester after this, hopefully I'll have my Associate's Degree. Good Luck to all Students...men or ladies etc.
  13. by   mrdoc2005
    There are 5 guys in my class and we call ourselves the test group.

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