Please Nursing, Stop Trying So Hard! - page 3
As I come to being 3 months away from graduating my BScN, I have reflected on the evolution of my perspective of nursing over these 4 years. Initially, it started off quite negatively. I even posted... Read More
Sep 13, '12Ok. I didn't even read all the responses yet, but this is absurd.
You are not a nurse yet. You didn't graduate from school or take the nclex. So, I think your judgements based on your clinicals is a ridiculous thing to make this assertion on.
Second, I think it's ridiculous that you are stating all of this and basing it off of your school experience and talking about research. Hello! That would be a convince study and the lowest level. Clearly your lengthy post is not based in any fact at all.
Sep 13, '12HA! YES! I have! I just entered the Executive MSN program at the University of Memphis. It is based on the 14 forces of magnetism. It is designed to take nurses from a more novice level to a level of leadership excellence. I learned about the IOM in the last semester of school when I was getting my BSN. I thought I was in Heaven!
Here's a link to the Loewenberg School of Nursing (U of M) website:
Loewenberg School of Nursing :: Executive MSN Program :: University of Memphis
I, too, am glad I stayed.
Sep 13, '12Am I the only one here offended by the comparison of women gaining equal rights to a teenager getting his first credit card and going crazy with it??!! (sorry for the paraphrase; I don't wish to read the hateful analogy again.) That makes me so less inclined to empathize with you!
I will concede that the constant debate over whether nursing is a profession or not is irritating. However, my irritation stems from the belief that all careers are worthy of respect, all jobs take a certain amount of training and education, and no one position is more important than the other. I came to nursing at the age of 30; I'm 32 now and so I have a fair amount of prior work experience under my belt- lots of service industry jobs in particular. I apply the same work ethic to nursing that I applied to my jobs as a line cook/dishwasher/bookseller/housekeeper/CNA and it is immaterial to me whether my job is considered a "profession"; my work is no more or less crucial than the work of the janitorial staff, CNAs, or doctors.
Sep 13, '12To me it sounds like you'll be the perfect nurse. Your obviously self and self involved. Exactly what a nurse is right? But don't worry when you have a baby you can take time off, which is the only good thing about being a nurse.
On a serious note. You are disrespectful and arrogant to nurses as a whole. You obviously have no idea what a nurse actually does.Last edit by Esme12 on Sep 13, '12
Sep 13, '12Quote from RiverNurseOh my gosh. That's horrible. Here in a city of Nebraska, at each hospital, there's a big sign at the entrance that says it's a felony to assault a healthcare worker while on duty. So we have something going right!For the injuries and threats I sustained? If they were outside of the workplace, I could have easily pressed charges. However, because they happened at work, there were no repercussions. So, yes, change needs to happen.
Sep 13, '12Nursing is the most versatile, adaptable, evolving, sustainable, diverse and oldest professions besides prostitution. What do you want to do for a living...law...hospital...sales...homecare...hospi tal...technology...academia...get and RN and you can do it, and you will be in demand. That being said everything you wrote is true(im assuming these events took place)...however...academia has this dichotomy with many professions...theory vs practice...and I am not seeing too much more here besides academia, research, and the acute care hospital setting. In some academic institutions and hospitals I can see that this happens and some where it doesn't. As far as the research you have to look at the amount of nursing research conducted vs. other professions as well. There is more quantitative research in volume than many professions because there are more nurses and various levels of nursing going up and down which continue to grow. As far as is Florence a nurse...well..being a nurse means being a patient advocate. Was she advocating through her research for patients/populations health? I think so. Are you saying bringing attention to the issues she studied failed and she didn't provide patient care so she is not a nurse or are you saying her work was without the intention of acting as patient advocate ?
Sep 13, '12"is not my intent to be vicious or malicious towards the nursing profession"
Congratulations...you have managed to be both.
Sep 13, '12The ironic thing is that Canadian nurses are far more respected than nurses in the US. They have had a BS requirement for RN licensure for years. Their RNs actually have the ability to make meaningful decisions about patient care in inpatient settings. I wish I were a Canadian RN. That being said, (1) I do feel like a lot of nursing research is redundant if not completely pointless (e.g. an article in a nursing journal about how nurses "eat their young"). (2) Nurses don't get a lot of respect because of how they're portrayed, which is the healthcare equivalent of waiters (and CNAs are busboys), that is if they're not being demeaned as a sexual fetish. (3) Also, being a man in nursing is not easy; only 6% of nurses are male and the percentage of nursing students is not much better. Women know better than most men what it's like to work in an opposite sex-dominated environment. (4) You do have to admit that a disproportionate amount of literature promoting the image of nursing exists compared with other professions. At some point, it feels like part of the job is apologizing for the job or being obnoxiously proud of it. A typical bedside med-surg nurse assesses patients' health status, implements caring interventions, advocates for the patient's best interests, and notifies the physician or midlevel about medical needs. The whole notion of nursing diagnosis seems to me to give nurses something to diagnose, and THAT could be humiliating to some.
Sep 13, '12Bill Richards > SRN (G86952),RMH, PhD, MApSc(ICU), etc
I trained in Australia in the 70s and to my mind, Hospital training is the only way. From personal experience (as both a patient and staff) Uni trained nurses are useless.
I moved into the Royal Melbourne Hospital Nurses Home in the '70s.Last edit by Esme12 on Sep 13, '12
Sep 13, '12Quote from MECO28Nope.Am I the only one here offended by the comparison of women gaining equal rights to a teenager getting his first credit card and going crazy with it??!!
Sep 13, '12The OP's post strikes me as someone who hated their Nursing Research and Nursing Theory classes and is trying to rationalize their decision for dropping out ofby rambling on and tearing down our profession.
I'm going to employ Watson's Caring Theory here and wish you all the best in your future endeavors and hope your life is filled with inner peace and happiness.