Male OB Frustration - page 3

I'm currently in my OB rotation for clinicals and lecture. The first two days of clinical I was in L&D and I had an awesome experience (witnessed a couple deliveries, worked with the fetal monitor,... Read More

  1. Visit  samirish profile page
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    Quote from That Guy
    Oh give me a break. This is the kind of thinking that keeps guys from going in more and more. I had to do all those "icky" things you said on my pts and you know what, it was no big deal. It is a simple question and a simple palpation. The stigma surrounding what you are doing is hyped way too much.


    Im sorry you feel that way but you can not get around the fact that a certain percentage of the women patients in OB are NOT going to feel comfortable with a male nurse. Those are the facts and you should respect the patients preference whether or not they coincide with YOUR preference.
  2. Visit  LIG RN profile page
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    Quote from samirish
    Im sorry you feel that way but you can not get around the fact that a certain percentage of the women patients in OB are NOT going to feel comfortable with a male nurse. Those are the facts and you should respect the patients preference whether or not they coincide with YOUR preference.

    Well, a certain percentage of women patients had NO problem with a male getting them to an OB floor in the first place. OMG... You write like YOU have a golden ***** and speak for all women.

    How many babies have you had?
    How embarrassed would you be if a male asked you about your stool?
    How about your menstrual cycle?
    How about if you perform self breast exams?
    How about if you practice safe sex?
    Last edit by traumaRUs on Mar 15, '11
  3. Visit  samirish profile page
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    Quote from *LIG
    Well, a certain percentage of women patients had NO problem with a male getting them to an OB floor in the first place. OMG... You write like YOU have a golden v@#$%a and speak for all women.

    How many babies have you had?
    How embarrassed would you be if a male asked you about your stool?
    How about your menstrual cycle?
    How about if you perform self breast exams?
    How about if you practice safe sex?

    I am only speaking for myself and for the women who prefer not to have male nurses in the OB. Im sorry this is so upsetting to you but it is my preference and there are other women out there that feel the same way.
  4. Visit  LIG RN profile page
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    I am sorry that you think the earth is flat... I am upset, no. I am glad my fellow males will not have to triple glove
  5. Visit  samirish profile page
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    Quote from *LIG
    Well, a certain percentage of women patients had NO problem with a male getting them to an OB floor in the first place. OMG... You write like YOU have a golden v@#$%a and speak for all women.

    How many babies have you had?
    How embarrassed would you be if a male asked you about your stool?
    How about your menstrual cycle?
    How about if you perform self breast exams?
    How about if you practice safe sex?

    Really, there is no reason for you to lash out with personal attacks. Its a discussion pure and simple. There is really no need for juvenile name calling. I will refrain from responding further as I can see how much this is upsetting you.

    good luck and peace
  6. Visit  LIG RN profile page
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    Well, so it appears you don't like Filipino nurses, overweight people, prisioners and male nurses. And you are not even in nursing school.

    And still did not answer my questions.
    Last edit by LIG RN on Mar 12, '11 : Reason: prision
  7. Visit  workingharder profile page
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    LIG,
    Your posts are taking on an unprofessional air. If you are a nursing student than you were taught from day one that we (nurses; male and female) are there for the benefit of the patient, not the other way around. Remember-- patient advocate? If a female patient wants to have a female nurse it is entirely within her rights to have a female nurse.
    There are dozens of areas in nursing where males can excel. Your world or the world in general is not going to grind to a halt if OB is not one of them.
    I'm an old guy that has learned to choose his battles, you should do likewise.
  8. Visit  iteachob profile page
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    Hi GUYS!

    I am an OB nursing professor....I have 6 male students in my class. They are required to do everything that their female counterparts do. They attend deliveries, do postpartum exam, and even put in catheters (gasp!). It is wrong to discriminate against male students in the OB area.....just as it is illegal to discriminate in hiring practices of males in the OB area. Did you all know that? It's sexual discrimination....and is illegal. You don't hear a lot about it because, first of all, most guys never apply to OB.....they are only too glad to get out of the area......and judging from most of these posts of your experiences, I can hardly blame you.

    By the way, very FEW women complain. It is truly rare. When they do, I simply reassign the student (to a similar experience).
    dbowen, JacobK, Trenia, and 2 others like this.
  9. Visit  stefanyjoy profile page
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    Quote from Trenia
    I can't understand that situation, so I won't pretend like I can. But that just seems like an isolated incident that any naive nursing student could have said, male or female. I don't think it's fair to punish all male NS for one person's mistake. Reversing the roles, I imagine I would have been a little uncomfortable had a female NS said something like that to me. I don't think I'd give up on all female NS though, as if we had a choice lol. I hope not at least.
    If it makes you feel any better, a whole room full of nursing students got to watch my delivery in 2005, mostly guys! I think it was because I was a very timid patient and they figured I'd be too shy to protest. The hospital I go to is a huge teaching hospital. I wish you guys luck your OB rotations.
  10. Visit  LIG RN profile page
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    Quote from workingharder
    LIG,
    Your posts are taking on an unprofessional air. If you are a nursing student than you were taught from day one that we (nurses; male and female) are there for the benefit of the patient, not the other way around. Remember-- patient advocate? If a female patient wants to have a female nurse it is entirely within her rights to have a female nurse.
    There are dozens of areas in nursing where males can excel. Your world or the world in general is not going to grind to a halt if OB is not one of them.
    I'm an old guy that has learned to choose his battles, you should do likewise.
    First ... I am a male nursing student posting in the male nursing student thread. Followed by posting in a category entitled "Male OB Frustration"...Does this sound like it's going to be a warm and fuzzy topic?

    Second...If you wish to lecture someone on "Professionalism", I will gladly give you the name and number of my OB instructor and I am sure other males on here would do the same.

    Third...Please show me exactly where I decided to throw being a patient advocate out the window. I was simply stating the fact of "samirish" trying to stereotype women was absurd. She could have easily found and cited some research topics off of pubmed or something.

    Fourth... Since you wish to remind me what is learned in nursing school, let me reeducate you on never giving up your "Scope of Practice", whether to another medical discipline OR someone else in the Nursing profession.

    Fifth...What, cause I am a Male I should be limited to positions of ICU, ER or patient lifter.

    Sixth...Hopefully, one day when I am a older, wiser male nurse, I will still have the gusto to stick up for myself instead of coming off as a Gelding.
  11. Visit  That Guy profile page
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    Quote from iteachob
    Hi GUYS!

    I am an OB nursing professor....I have 6 male students in my class. They are required to do everything that their female counterparts do. They attend deliveries, do postpartum exam, and even put in catheters (gasp!). It is wrong to discriminate against male students in the OB area.....just as it is illegal to discriminate in hiring practices of males in the OB area. Did you all know that? It's sexual discrimination....and is illegal. You don't hear a lot about it because, first of all, most guys never apply to OB.....they are only too glad to get out of the area......and judging from most of these posts of your experiences, I can hardly blame you.

    By the way, very FEW women complain. It is truly rare. When they do, I simply reassign the student (to a similar experience).
    Thank you very much! It is good to hear this from instructors that they push everyone to be equal.
    dbowen and LIG RN like this.
  12. Visit  workingharder profile page
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    Quote from *LIG
    First ... I am a male nursing student posting in the male nursing student thread. Followed by posting in a category entitled "Male OB Frustration"...Does this sound like it's going to be a warm and fuzzy topic?

    Second...If you wish to lecture someone on "Professionalism", I will gladly give you the name and number of my OB instructor and I am sure other males on here would do the same.

    Third...Please show me exactly where I decided to throw being a patient advocate out the window. I was simply stating the fact of "samirish" trying to stereotype women was absurd. She could have easily found and cited some research topics off of pubmed or something.

    Fourth... Since you wish to remind me what is learned in nursing school, let me reeducate you on never giving up your "Scope of Practice", whether to another medical discipline OR someone else in the Nursing profession.

    Fifth...What, cause I am a Male I should be limited to positions of ICU, ER or patient lifter.

    Sixth...Hopefully, one day when I am a older, wiser male nurse, I will still have the gusto to stick up for myself instead of coming off as a Gelding.
    First- Samirish was voicing her view as a patient, not as a nurse. It is entirely possible to have a discussion about it without resorting to insults.
    Second- "Well, so it appears you don't like Filipino nurses, overweight people, prisioners and male nurses". She never said any such thing. You were the first to bring these up and it is a red herring. "I am sorry that you think the earth is flat". That is belittling and uncalled for.
    Third-You find "facts" where none exist. Samirish was not stereotyping women. The patient has the right to refuse treatment and to choose her provider.
    Fourth-How is allowing a patient to choose her provider relinquishing your duties under the Scope of Practice?
    Fifth- I never said that. If you want to be in L & D than go for it. Just realize that there will be times when the patient/ client won't want you there.
    Sixth-The inference that I have been neutered was not lost on me. The quantity of testosterone running through my veins is still quite adequate. But, there is a difference between sticking up for yourself and imposing your opinions on patients, and this is what you are advocating.
    See? We can have a civilized disagreement without resorting to innuendo or insults.
  13. Visit  LIG RN profile page
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    And who is my patient?????????


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