how many use the line when giving shots to women?

^^^ Haha, I seriously don't see the big deal about this at all... Who cares if you say such a thing, I personally see the what the fuss is about.

We have to be very careful what we say and how we say it...esp around patients & family members/visitors. And co-workers. If the pt. is under the influence of a percocet or morphine or other med, he/she could very well think you are sexually harassing her...and rob her of any confidence in you or the facility she is in.

IMHO (and I'm well known for my smarta(leck) sense of humor), a female client wouldn't need to be heavily medicated to conclude "sexual harassment" if a male provider used "the line" -- that would certainly be my first (and final) impression if it happened to me. Save that kind of humor for the bars on Saturday night ...

well, i talked to the senior nurse's husband the other day, he's a lawyer. he basically said, there isn't much legally the employer or the state can do, given the situation. females there are allowed to say it and do say it , that's where i picked it up. i guess a male could be offended by it if a female nurse said it to them, but it's never been an issue with the females there saying it to anyone.

he did say the employer is n the best position to stop it and probably should from a business prospective (keep customers/patients happy), if they wanted to, but the employer would have to stop/enforce it in a gender neutral bases. he said the state might be able to stop it if they had a gender neutral policy in place and it was enforced in a gender neutral manner, but it would be subject to constitutional constraints, which the employer isn't subject to.

as for patient's that might be offended, he couldn't think of a legal theory they could successfully win with either. sexual harassment laws generally apply to the employer-employee relationship, not the employee-customer/patient relationship.

"don't worry you're just gonna feel a xxxxx" or something similar. pretty good for breaking the ice, getting some laughs, etc. i don't say it to all women, just ones i think will be receptive, some are too receptive and it goes over the head of some. women 40+ seem to take it the best.

good for having fun and joking around at work.

i do this at a pt gig i have. the nurse (female, she basically runs the place) that trained me says it to everyone, she's been a nurse 40+ yrs. it all started by accident, i had never said it b4, b/c i figured it would be improper b/c i was a male, but after hearing her and others (female) there say it all the time it slipped a few times and i had neutral or positive feedback from patients, so i figured go with it. however, i've had some rare patients that don't like it at all, so they've gone to the old mule (stubborn) nurse that trained me and she basically tells them the only reason they have a problem with it is b/c i'm a male. she tells them that's what she and others there always say (or some varient) and will continue to say (she's given some of these folks shots b4 with no prob), so she's not going to make me stop b/c i'm a male and that she probably couldn't do so legally anyways. the issue is usually smoothed over right there. of course, some then take their complaint to one of the docs, but nothing changes.

well, i talked to the senior nurse's husband the other day, he's a lawyer. he basically said, there isn't much legally the employer or the state can do, given the situation. females there are allowed to say it and do say it , that's where i picked it up. i guess a male could be offended by it if a female nurse said it to them, but it's never been an issue with the females there saying it to anyone.

he did say the employer is n the best position to stop it and probably should from a business prospective (keep customers/patients happy), if they wanted to, but the employer would have to stop/enforce it in a gender neutral bases. he said the state might be able to stop it if they had a gender neutral policy in place and it was enforced in a gender neutral manner, but it would be subject to constitutional constraints, which the employer isn't subject to.

as for patient's that might be offended, he couldn't think of a legal theory they could successfully win with either. sexual harassment laws generally apply to the employer-employee relationship, not the employee-customer/patient relationship.