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No. 10
from nrsbetrn
Old Jan 17, 2009, 12:47 PM

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Our nurses are not good at charting on skilled therapy residents. They think only therapy should deal with this part but it all ties in together on the residents recovery. I would like to have some cheat sheets for areas for nursing documentation. It is how we get paid in the end! They just don't get it! Does anyone have good cheat sheets for what needs to be covered in documentation pertaining to specific skills that you would share?
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No. 11
from Rascal1
Old Jan 17, 2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nrsbetrn View Post
Our nurses are not good at charting on skilled therapy residents. They think only therapy should deal with this part but it all ties in together on the residents recovery. I would like to have some cheat sheets for areas for nursing documentation. It is how we get paid in the end! They just don't get it! Does anyone have good cheat sheets for what needs to be covered in documentation pertaining to specific skills that you would share?
Yes, ask your MDS. person. Ooops, Don't tell her I said that !! Post cheat sheets containing Dx. specific observations and related testing done by nursing for the resident and what they did or need to do to remedy the situation. Don't forget any other pertinent observations/actions necessary specific to the patient. Maybe,the hospital d/c summary describes some other problems very often unrelated to the primary dx's.,which got them admitted to the hospital in the first place.(Diarrhea,med. reaction,rash). Surely,these events warrant further observations if they are not resolved completely upon hospital d/c.to LTC. Let's face it ,these very fragile, sick patients are shipped back from the hospital so quick,still, soooo unstable and how many end right back there within the first few of shifts and are admitted again. And the hospital gets to bill the insurance co's for another admission. If hospital d/c planners would get after the MD's to include the more specific info. re: IV's,amts., dates, (started ,d/c'd) it would help us drive up our medicare reimbursement because we can capture on the MDS. Hope this helps a little....:typing
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No. 12
Old Jan 17, 2009, 06:23 PM

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If I tacked that note on...I'd get grieved by the union
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No. 13
from Rascal1
Old Jan 17, 2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CapeCodMermaid View Post
If I tacked that note on...I'd get grieved by the union
A little humor goes along way ...:chuckle
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No. 14
Old Jan 17, 2009, 07:03 PM

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Ah, if only that were true....they don't seem to have a sense of humor.
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No. 15
Old Jan 18, 2009, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CapeCodMermaid View Post
If I tacked that note on...I'd get grieved by the union
Yeah, but whats true is true...
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No. 16
from Rascal1
Old Jan 18, 2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CapeCodMermaid View Post
Ah, if only that were true....they don't seem to have a sense of humor.
This post is surely off the topic,but....here I go...First off, the suggestion to add such a note was not made here to be taken seriously. Of course it is ridiculous and it was a bait of sorts. I see remarkable success with regards to intelligent and pertinent skilled charting when the individuals that perform in this fashion are given positive feedback and acclaim. It's also beneficial to include skilled Med.A charting in the orientation process of new hires. This will be an important aspect of their job respondsibilities and therefore will be part of their future performance review and ultimately be reflected in their merit increase. And of course, it would'nt hurt to use a proactive ongoing positive approach involving other arenas of staff relations. We should allow room for sensitivity,validation and humor in our relationships. Thanks...
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No. 17
from travel50
Old Jan 18, 2009, 05:37 PM

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We chart 2 shifts every day on our skilled residents. We also use different sheets for their charting. ¾ of the front side of the page is a check list. The bottom ¼ and the back of the page are for narrative notes. I now have RNs around the clock, so my nurses have more time to do their charting.
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No. 18
from travel50
Old Jan 18, 2009, 05:42 PM

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We chart on 2 shifts for our skilled residents, and we have different nurses' notes for them. ¾ of the front side of the paper is a check list. The bottom ¼ and the back is for narrative notes. We now have RNs around the clock, which gives my nurses more time for their charting.
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No. 19
Old Jan 19, 2009, 01:16 AM

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Yesterday at a staff meeting we broke down what has to be charted and assigned it by the day- it has worked before, if everyone is committed it will work!
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