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Mar 10, 2009 11:52 AM

Questions on State Visits


As a new RN grad that recently started at a SNF, I am hearing horror stories from the other nurses related to the State coming for a visit: that they come and follow you around, ask you why certain patients are taking certain drugs, ask why I am giving my 8am meds at 10:30am (because there's too many patients and not enough time!)What exactly does the State searching for when they are looking at an RN and her job? How can I stay "out of trouble?"


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Old Mar 10, 2009, 08:44 PM

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It has nothing to do with being an RN.. it is all about the nursing staff (actually the entire LTC team) following all of the state/federal regulations. Chances are you know the "right way" to do your tasks and that is exactly what they expect to see. These regulations are developed to enhance the safety of our residents and they expect to see them followed. Although I also get upset with "them" and their approach at times, I can't imagine how LTC coorporations would ever be kept in line without them.

Just remember, you are paid to follow the rules and they get paid to make sure the rules get followed. Someone's got to do it.
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from debRN0417
Old Mar 11, 2009, 05:17 PM
Updated Mar 11, 2009 at 05:18 PM by debRN0417

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The only time you should be "followed" is if the inspector asks you if she/he can observe your med pass. If you are giving 8am meds at 10 am, that is a problem only if it impacts the resident....of course that is in my state, so don't quote me (hehe)---The inspector may "follow" you to observe you do a treatment, but they should be letting you know this ahead of time. They ask questions, and if you know your residents and about their plans of care, no question should be difficult. If you don't know the answer, say "I don't know, but I can find out"...and find out! They may ask you about your abuse policy, how you monitor and supervise staff to prevent abuse, about your fire procedure, emergency power, missing resident...etc...Know what your facility's policies and procedures are and follow them. Don't worry, everyone gets nervous when someone is watching, it's okay. You'll do just fine!
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Old Apr 10, 2009, 05:32 PM

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Was recently asked about our emergency procedures, abuse, MARs, and residents on hospice.

Other areas of interest included treatments and food delivery.
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from evilolive
Old Apr 28, 2009, 07:05 PM

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Just heard today that the State is in for our survey this week. Joy! I work nights, so I'm hoping that I can avoid them ... we shall see :P
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from BEDPAN76
Old Apr 28, 2009, 09:58 PM

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That is why I loved working night shift! They are due in my facility any day now. Can the tension get much worse???? I know they will pick apart my care plans and hope my RAP notes are OK. I'm ready for them to come on and get it over with!!!!!
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from evilolive
Old Apr 29, 2009, 01:34 PM

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Hopefully they will only be here through Friday.... I'm pretty positive that my documentation is adequate, I did get some reassurance from my ADON today that I'm doing a 'great job.' Of course she tells me this after "what happened to so and so's butt cream order? We're all going to get screwed!"

Haha, ohhhh my boss...I know her all too well.
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Old Apr 29, 2009, 01:43 PM

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FWIW, going through a state survey as a charge nurse is a picnic compared with being a resident care manager or DON! They walked in the door on my very first day of work at my current LTC job, and I just laughed..........being the veteran of a number of surveys during which everything but my dress size and my age at First Communion was examined minutely and discussed in excruciating detail, I found this one to be completely stress-free!

Just do your job the way you have been taught, answer their questions as honestly and politely as possible, and don't volunteer any information.......wait for them to ask YOU. And be glad you're not sitting in the ADON's or DON's chair
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from BEDPAN76
Old Apr 29, 2009, 04:55 PM

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Today, I heard that at one of our sister facilities, they were tagged for failure to shave a female resident's legs! What next????
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Old Apr 29, 2009, 09:33 PM

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I have worked in LTC for years and never once saw anyone shave a resident's legs. What tag could it be under? I would definitely IDR this. We are due for our survey any day now. It is what it is. We take excellent care of the residents.
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