Why the Prejudice against LPNs - page 3

I am an LPN and due to health reasons I have to give up RN transition hopefully for a short time. I fail to understand why RNs and LPNs can't work together without the bickering.I know that med techs... Read More

  1. by   wildcat
    Ok the next thing I'm going to hear is that RN's and BSN's can perform procedures that MD's are responsible for. WHATEVER, the medical system we work in has been designed for a reason. If your a RN or BSN do your job. If your a LPN or CNA do your jobs. However, anyone who feels that they need to do someone elses job and you are NOT certified to do so put a lid on it. I can understand how it can be frustrating to feel you can do a job and yet not be allowed to do it because you are not certified. GOOD NEWS though, if you are as smart as you think you are, getting a RN or BSN should be no problem. The moral of the story is we all have our stations in life and until we take actions to change them we have no room to complain. It's like complaing about the government and not voting, the two just do not go together.
  2. by   MollyJ
    AMEN, Wildcat!!!!
  3. by   nrsen99
    DOUBLE AMEN!!!!!!!! ~~~~~~~~ I couldn't have said it better!

    I'd work with Wildcat any day!!!
  4. by   Mystic32
    I to am an LPN and I understand that "blue" is angry, but this is old news RN's(some not all} will always try to keep LPN's down, its just there way of keeping thier jobs. With the Insurance companies killing RN positions across the board the RN's are forced to fight for thier jobs.

    Mystic
  5. by   wildcat
    Truth be know not as many people are becoming RN's. That is one reason that LPN's have become so popular, because they can preform the more remedial procedures. This coupled with managed health care cutting back on the university educated staff is the reason LPN's have become popular. This has happened with MD's as well as BSN's RN's. As far as being worried about an LPN taking my job I'm not. Federal and state regulations insure my job. I say this because the government has seen fit to require the level of education I have to perform certain medical procedures. Government being as it is the need for RN's will not change and LPN's will continue in their current role.
  6. by   Mystic32
    Wildcat-- correct me if I am wrong but you express yourself like "Managment"?? and although I can find disagreement or fault in your logic you can't say that at least some RN's go out of there way to make it tough on LPN's.

    Mystic.
  7. by   leslie'smom
    wildcat - wish I'd said it first!!!! I work with a number of LPNs who went that route because it was "fastest". Granted a few of them are very conscientous, caring nurses. But they simply DO NOT have the supporting education we recieve in RN programs. They are not able to tell me the rationale behind some of their interventions, they are very task oriented - often don't seem to have the "BIG PICTURE". I am currently in an RN-BSN completion program. I feel a lot of the information we are absorbing would have been wasted on me 7 years ago as I began my ADN program. Seven years ago I was offended when I was told that we, as ADN students were being prepared to be bedside nurses - not researchers, not administrators - by GOD!! my liscense was just as good as anyone else's!!!! I now feel differently. I am beginning to agree with the ANA - the entry level to "professional nursing" - the RN title should be a BSN. ADN programs should produce LPNs. I have shared this with LPNs I work with, and by and large, they agree. The new ADN's I work with are offended - just as I would have been 7 years ago. The only BSN I work with is a new grad who thinks she is God's gift to nursing.....many of us have news for her....
  8. by   Kel Cardaras
    Wildcat, you're right on! I worked too hard for my ADN and my BSN to have it discounted by anyone. You can be the best LPN that you can be, but you will still not be an RN. Same goes for RNs, as much as you know and can do, you are not an MD. My mother is an LPN and she is the best she can be, I love and admire her for that (among other reasons). The LPNs I work with, who are competent in their own right, always receive respect from me and all the other RNs at our hospital. But so do the maintenence staff, housekeeping staff, doctors and admissions staff. What you do is up to you. If you are competent and have the right attitude, you will be successful and have respect!
  9. by   nrsen99
    Mystic~~~~~
    Sounds like you think you are God's gift to nursing! What makes you think that you are a better nurse then those of us that have our ADN. I have just been hired on a ICU. They hired four new grads. Two ADN educated and two BSN educated. The two with their BSNs are terrible nurses. They probably won't even make it off of probation. Me and the other ADN nurse are already on our own doing the hardest assignments. ADN nurses get way more bedside experience in school and end the end make better nurses right out of school.
  10. by   KRS
    I think most LPN's understand that there is an educational (nursing) difference in LPN's and RN's. What's our complaint - RN's (some) feel that there is an intellectual difference also.An LPN is WHAT I am, not WHO I am. There are many duties that I cannot and should not do, but to treat me as if I were somehow in a class beneath you is wrong. I have alot to learn from some of the RN's where I work, about nursing, but intellectually I will stand toe to toe with any ADN, BSN, or MD for that matter.
  11. by   Erbn Girl
    Dear KRS: I started out as an LPN also and every stage of nursing has its educational goals. This is the same in many types of professions and trades not related to nursing either. You are LPN because it was what YOU chose to do and you are proud and very well SHOULD be! I received more bedside experience in my LPN program (which was hospital-based) then I have in my ADN program and I feel it was an excellent base to build upon. Your last statement about standing toe-toe...right on!
  12. by   Joe,RN
    Yes, you can stand toe to toe, but without the education you may not get the chance!
  13. by   Tired
    Good God Ladies! (and gents)What an outpouring of feelings!!
    On my unit, a small ob/gyn, we have LPNs doing post-partum care and post-surgical care. We, the RNs, take care of the Laboring patients and do assessments on the others. Our LPNs are wonderful. They have Iv training, scrub in for c/s, and can watch a labor if our staffing sucks and we are in doing an epidural. But, these women get pulled throughout hspital and are required to work any unit! They are treated badly by the RN staff on other units. They are there to lighten the load, and yet, these RNs don't apprieciate them at all. We RNs on my unit also get pulled to other units. They seem to think that we can do anything! When I go somewhere where I have never been or don't feel qualified to be there, I rely heavily on the LPN staff to help me out. They know the ropes and the patients. The RNs are hateful to us, too!! I was told when I started that nurses eat their young. I find that to be very true. To all the new grads...Watch and learn, from everyone! Don't take the attitude that you have more education, therefore, you are the better nurse. Experience counts alot in this field. To the LPNs, I love and apprieciate you greatly. Keep up the good work!

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