Should I go LVN or RN route? - page 2

I was initially going for LVN but everyone is telling me to do RN. I am a unit secretary at a hospital for telemetry floor. Any advice would be appreciated. How long would it take me to finish... Read More

  1. by   BigB
    i make $5 less an hour than the RN's here. Not worth upgrading for the stress that comes with the RN title at this time.

    I would recommend going for the RN if you can. Career choices for LVN's are few and far between. But RN school is a fulltime deal. It is hard for us LVN's that have morgages, famlies, etc to take a cut in salary to get the RN license.
  2. by   msdobson
    Quote from pagandeva2000
    It still amazes me how I can hear from others from different states that LPNs make $10 less than RNs, sometimes even $5 less. I am not sure if I would want that little difference with the additional responsibilities (although RNs have more career choices made available for them). In NY, RNs make hundreds of dollars more. Starting salary for LPNs in my hospital is about $37,000; RN is $62,000.

    Which is why I am going for my RN...AFTER I get my LVN. :trout:

    Why?

    Because here where I live, the RN programs have waiting lists that will take me at about the same time I can apply for Social Security (I'm 44, not 22).

    The LVN program took me right away (no waiting list), and I figure I can at least WORK as a nurse while I do the bridge program (or online BSN).

    Whatever I choose to do, I was FORCED into my decision by the lack of nursing staff at my local colleges/university.

    And yet, I'm okay with that. Becoming an RN right away (or ever) is not an option for everyone.
  3. by   BigB
    Quote from msdobson
    Which is why I am going for my RN...AFTER I get my LVN. :trout:

    Why?

    Because here where I live, the RN programs have waiting lists that will take me at about the same time I can apply for Social Security (I'm 44, not 22).

    The LVN program took me right away (no waiting list), and I figure I can at least WORK as a nurse while I do the bridge program (or online BSN).

    Whatever I choose to do, I was FORCED into my decision by the lack of nursing staff at my local colleges/university.

    And yet, I'm okay with that. Becoming an RN right away (or ever) is not an option for everyone.
    I noticed Fair Oaks. I am from Sacramento. If you don't mind comuting to Vacaville, CA you can make $73,000 - $100,000 + (with OT) as an LVN/ MTA for the department of Mental Health.
  4. by   msdobson
    Quote from BigB
    I noticed Fair Oaks. I am from Sacramento. If you don't mind comuting to Vacaville, CA you can make $73,000 - $100,000 + (with OT) as an LVN/ MTA for the department of Mental Health.
    Sweeeeet! :kiss Uh-oh....Now EVERYBODY will be moving to NorCal!

    Michael
  5. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from msdobson
    Which is why I am going for my RN...AFTER I get my LVN. :trout:

    Why?

    Because here where I live, the RN programs have waiting lists that will take me at about the same time I can apply for Social Security (I'm 44, not 22).

    The LVN program took me right away (no waiting list), and I figure I can at least WORK as a nurse while I do the bridge program (or online BSN).

    Whatever I choose to do, I was FORCED into my decision by the lack of nursing staff at my local colleges/university.

    And yet, I'm okay with that. Becoming an RN right away (or ever) is not an option for everyone.

    You can also consider taking the on line course if it is accepted in your state to become an RN. Most people had that same problem...the shortage of professors to teach in RN programs. This is more of a problem with instructors escorting students to clinical sites because there has to be a certain ratio that is considered to be safe for an RN to supervise nursing students. You can have over 100 students sit in a lecture class, but the hands on experience requires smaller groups. It forces the colleges to take in less students, making it more competitive.
  6. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from BigB
    i make $5 less an hour than the RN's here. Not worth upgrading for the stress that comes with the RN title at this time.

    I would recommend going for the RN if you can. Career choices for LVN's are few and far between. But RN school is a fulltime deal. It is hard for us LVN's that have morgages, famlies, etc to take a cut in salary to get the RN license.
    That is the point I was basically saying...to endure even more stress for just $5 is insulting to me...I would not want to walk back into a nursing school situation (which I hated IMMENSELY) to come out with $5 more and headaches to beat the band. I guess that all of this...the availability of jobs, salary, duties, etc, certainly depends on the geograhical location. I didn't see such a shortage of opportunities for LPNs here in NY. We do have hospitals that take them, and some pay nicely, considering. I am stuck at my hospital for at least two years because they paid my way through school and I have a contract to finish out before I run for the hills to greener pastures.
  7. by   msdobson
    Quote from pagandeva2000
    You can also consider taking the on line course if it is accepted in your state to become an RN.
    My plan:

    1. Take the LVN course (18 months)
    2. Work as an LVN (see if Nursing is REALLY whay I want to do...)
    3. If all is good and the planets align, take a LVN/RN bridge course.
    4. Happiness ensues.

    At this stage in my life, I really have no desire to spend 8 years in school (again). I wasn't all too happy with the first go-round. So, the LVN/RN bridge appears to be a sensible direction to take for what I wish to accomplish.

    I suppose if I were 22 again, BSN to MSN would be the way to go, but I'm not, and just THINKING of that route makes me tired!

    (I think I'll take a nap now....)


    Mike
  8. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from msdobson
    My plan:

    1. Take the LVN course (18 months)
    2. Work as an LVN (see if Nursing is REALLY whay I want to do...)
    3. If all is good and the planets align, take a LVN/RN bridge course.
    4. Happiness ensues.

    At this stage in my life, I really have no desire to spend 8 years in school (again). I wasn't all too happy with the first go-round. So, the LVN/RN bridge appears to be a sensible direction to take for what I wish to accomplish.

    I suppose if I were 22 again, BSN to MSN would be the way to go, but I'm not, and just THINKING of that route makes me tired!

    (I think I'll take a nap now....)


    Mike
    How many bridge programs are in your area? They seem to be popping out of the wood-works at this time, so, that is not a bad plan. There is only one within my immediate area, and those that are accepted get to skip over med-surg I and psych nursing, going straight to peds and ob, afterwards, take med-surg 2 and out they go within about 9 months. Well, nap time is okay for the moment, but, later on, when you start school, those days are over for at least two years (including studying for the boards...but that is another story). Good luck!
  9. by   msdobson
    Quote from pagandeva2000
    How many bridge programs are in your area? They seem to be popping out of the wood-works at this time, so, that is not a bad plan. There is only one within my immediate area, and those that are accepted get to skip over med-surg I and psych nursing, going straight to peds and ob, afterwards, take med-surg 2 and out they go within about 9 months. Well, nap time is okay for the moment, but, later on, when you start school, those days are over for at least two years (including studying for the boards...but that is another story). Good luck!
    You're right, they ARE all over the place nowadays. I think within the next couple of years, they will be commonplace. The "Internet" universities are certainly making good money from it...
  10. by   Mudwoman
    I went the LVN/LPN route and although I planned to get my RN right after that, it took me 13 years to find the time and money--I just graduated. I have seen huge changes in the employment opportunities for LPNs and my advice is to get the RN. When I graduated 13 years ago, there wasn't really anything that a RN could do that I couldn't do except be charge nurse. That has changed and continues to change with the scope of practice diminishing. Pretty soon, an LPN/LVN will be limited to LTC or doctor offices and the pay will be continue to be less. 3 of the major hospitals in our state are going back to primary care from the "team" concept and will be employing only RN's with a CNA. Many hospitals are expected to follow. The LTC facilities got the state BON to approve "medication aides" and now there are hardly any LPN positions available in LTC and the salaries are dropping like rocks. Many of my LPN friends are now having to work 2 jobs to make ends meet.

    So, if there is anyway that you can get the RN, do it now. New LPN grads are starting at $9.50 hr. New RN grads are starting at $18. You do the math.
  11. by   msdobson
    Quote from Mudwoman
    I went the LVN/LPN route and although I planned to get my RN right after that, it took me 13 years to find the time and money--I just graduated. I have seen huge changes in the employment opportunities for LPNs and my advice is to get the RN. When I graduated 13 years ago, there wasn't really anything that a RN could do that I couldn't do except be charge nurse. That has changed and continues to change with the scope of practice diminishing. Pretty soon, an LPN/LVN will be limited to LTC or doctor offices and the pay will be continue to be less. 3 of the major hospitals in our state are going back to primary care from the "team" concept and will be employing only RN's with a CNA. Many hospitals are expected to follow. The LTC facilities got the state BON to approve "medication aides" and now there are hardly any LPN positions available in LTC and the salaries are dropping like rocks. Many of my LPN friends are now having to work 2 jobs to make ends meet.

    So, if there is anyway that you can get the RN, do it now. New LPN grads are starting at $9.50 hr. New RN grads are starting at $18. You do the math.
    Well, as I've stated, I'm not 21 years old anymore, so time is of the essence here, and I won't play the waiting game if I can "do it now."

    At my age, waiting around for 3 years with no absolute certainty that they won't change the acceptance criteria "again"...we'll, I've a sure thing with this LVN school, so I'll grab it now. At least that will put me into the field 18 months from now. I can worry about upgrading later. Both time and money are NOT an issue with me. I'm single, my daughter is 24 years old and LONG gone from the nest, and I have no real bills to speak of.

    My only problem is that TIME will not stand still for me to chase after one of the VERY few RN slots available to me locally.
  12. by   msdobson
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  13. by   msdobson
    Quote from mudwoman
    So, if there is anyway that you can get the RN, do it now. New LPN grads are starting at $9.50 hr. New RN grads are starting at $18. You do the math.

    Our LVN grads are making twice that starting out...

    (The flip side of that coin being that the RN's are making twice what the LVN's are making! Oh well, not a perfect world!)

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