RN student nurse, taking NCLEX-PN??? - page 2
by crazin01 3,149 Views | 19 Comments
hi, i'm new to this site and I have a question, I'm hoping I can get some information about taking the NCLEX-PN. I am a RN nursing student, at a diploma program, that is 2 years long. I only have this coming summer semester... Read More
- 0Apr 28, '05 by andreQuote from New_Mom_LPN_StudentWell first let me repeat myself when I say, what I said was not meant to fuel the fire, and I can tell by your attitute that you took it that way. I have even entered school yet. Now next up I said CLINICAL EXPERIENCE, not clinical hours, big difference. My question to you have you ever seen a new grap LPN, and a new grad RN-BSN on the floor together. Well I have, actually I have seen quite a few, while I won't say every time, but most of the time I see LPNs run circles around the RNs. Why is that? Well, my personal opinion, clinical experience. How many first hand accounts have we read on this forum alone, about new RN grads, that have never given a bed bath? And last but not least, I was told by three nursing departments at three different schools, that all told me that their LPN programs give more CLINICAL EXPERIENCE than their RN programs. And the head of the nursing departments at one of the schools, told me that I would do better going for LPN first then the LPN to RN, bridge, because I would come out with more hands on, and theory as an RN. And as a matter of fact at that particular school, they won't have another RN program, until fall 2006, because they are revising the program, and of course have to get it approved by the state; if you ask me clinical experience is why. Ohh, and before I go one last example, when I was 5 months pregnant, on Sept 30th,2004, I had to go to the hospital for an ultrasound; which was in L&D. I was there for over 4 hours, waiting on the hospital to get their back log straight. When I was there I saw about 10 nursing dtudent from a BSN program about 5 minutes away from my house. And what did I see? I saw the (and mind you this was for over 4 hours), watching tv, eating popcorn, going back and forth to the snack machine, trading opinions on chocolate peanut butter cookie recipes, that one of them had brought in the day before, and that is it. Oh no, that wasn't it when I had first arrived one of the students took my file, tured around and handed to the nurse. So take what you can from that.
Wow. I actually thought my post was encouraging, too (to the OP) . I was genuinely asking a question, not giving you "attitude".
Anyway, I do disagree with you, for sure! But you're of course entitled to your opinion. We all know students, whether LPN, RN or BSN, who didn't make the most of their clinical experiences--those are the students who stood around at the desk instead of searching out learning opportunities at clinical. I realize you're making a distinction between clinical hours and clinical experiences--but I will maintain that if you've got four semesters of clinical hours vs two semesters of clinical hours, the four semester program gets more "experience". Especially if you use your clinical time wisely.
I know many, many LPNs who could run circles around me, sure. But it's not because they had more clinical experience--it's because they have more real-world experience than I've had (yet), being a new grad and all.Last edit by andre on Apr 28, '05
- 0Apr 28, '05 by GN1974And if you read what is as plain as day, on this forum alone I have read many accounts of new RN grads, that have never even given a bed bath. Qouted from New moms post.........
From your above qoute, this should be taken with a grain of salt--certainly not everything you hear or read on the posts is accurate. For various reasons info gets distorted sometimes. Like Andre said in the above post, four semesters of clinicals is more experience than two. I also agree that real world experience is what gives you the edge. We are all in control of our learning experiences and some don't seek to use their time to their full potential.
KarenLast edit by GN1974 on Apr 28, '05
- 0Apr 28, '05 by FocusRNI agree we all are resposible for what and how we learn. Bu just to comment I know there still are many 2 semester LPN programs in the US, but just not down my way. Maybe that is the reason why I got the answers I did from schools. Down here you will find programs about 4 to 5 semesters in length (including summer), with clinicals starting in the first semester right down to the last.
- 0Apr 28, '05 by GN1974Quote from New_Mom_LPN_StudentWow, I have never heard of a four or five semester LPN program. What program are you attending and where is it located?I agree we all are resposible for what and how we learn. Bu just to comment I know there still are many 2 semester LPN programs in the US, but just not down my way. Maybe that is the reason why I got the answers I did from schools. Down here you will find programs about 4 to 5 semesters in length (including summer), with clinicals starting in the first semester right down to the last.
- 0May 2, '05 by Nurseismade RNBest wishes, choosing to be an LPN for now is a great idea. Here in Mass, they make about $20-25 an hour and more when with an agency. Because of this, many LPN's feel comfortable with this and do not go on to the RN. I will be in this boat soon, as I did get into the LPN program for fall. So hopefully I will remember my own advice to you Please continue to the RN soon.
- 0May 3, '05 by RN2Bn2006[QUOTE... but considering that one of the people that gave me the wrong info as you say, what the department head of the nursing program, in that instance I'm pretty much assured that info in right on. So take it how you want.[/QUOTE]
Then I would say you are looking into the wrong nursing program. There are good ones and there are bad ones. If the graduates from RN school are without any basic skills then I would not be interested in that school in the first place.
Good luck to you.