Not a nurse? Then, why does LPN stand for Licensed Practical Nurse? - page 5

by tjmiller

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    To me, the sheer absurdity of someone saying LPNs aren't really nurses is such that I consider it a non-issue. It's like someone looking at a dog and saying it's a starfish. Since it's such a bafflingly stupid thing to say, it doesn't offend me.
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    Quote from kalevra
    Yeah I know weird right. But there are old threads about this some where in the archives on this site
    Title nurse protection in the states that have it....include LPN/LVN's. The have gone to school and have passed the state licensing exam. Now some states restrict the LPN's scope of practice more than others but the are nurses.Title "Nurse" Protection: Summary of Language by State

    Title "Nurse" Protection

    Background
    Restricting use of the title "nurse" to only those individuals who have fulfilled the requirements for licensure as outlined in each state's nurse practice act is a protection for the public against unethical, unscrupulous, and incompetent practitioners. Nurse practice acts describe entry level qualifications such as education, practice standards and code of conduct for continued privilege to practice nursing. Limiting use of the title "nurse" to only those who have satisfied the licensure requirements ensures the protection the public deserves.

    At least 37 states are known to have language in their Nurse Practice Act; either explicit in restricting use of the title "nurse" to only those who are licensed or implicit language restricting use of any words implying the individual is a licensed nurse.....
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    I am in school to become a registered practical nurse...and I have a friend who is in the BSCN program. She constantly reminds me how much harder her program is, how easy I have it, and how I'm "just" going to be an RPN and can't do all the things she can. The ignorance is laughable, because at least here in Ontario, the gap between RN and RPN is pretty narrow. All the things she says we can't do...we can, and do! And I've realized, that she really knows nothing about what we do, and neither do many other RNs and BSCN students (mainly the latter). I will be a NURSE in a years time, and a darn good one! I'm loving the quote "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" -Elenor Roosevelt....it's true!
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    Quote from NurseGuyBri
    Do *not* ever let anyone say "just a LPN " or "just a CNA". It is the worst phrase and divides us- we need way more together and a lot less apart.

    LPN= Loving, Passionate Nurse

    B
    Agreed.

    One thing I have noticed--and this in NO WAY excuses or justifies LPN/LVN bashing--but a lot of LVNs are quick to belittle themselves or put themselves down. Lord knows how many times I've heard LVNs say they're "just" a LVN or consider themselves inferior to RNs when they are not.

    Again, it doesn't justify rudeness. But if LVNs look/comment so poorly upon themselves, it doesn't exactly encourage others to speak up otherwise.

    So in addition to discouraging it among non-LVNs, discourage that attitude among other LVNs as well: be proud of what you do and don't think yourself any less of a nurse because your title is somewhat different.
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    I'm a LPN working in a Wound Healing Clinic. The *only* thing I am not allowed to do is new patient admissions, but I can do everything else, and in addition I run the Hyperbaric chambers. Not one patient since I have been there has asked me if I am a LPN or RN. They see that I am competent to perform the procedures ordered by the physician and educate them prior to leaving the clinic and that is what matters to them.

    The two RNs I work with have yet to make any derogatory statements about my title. We work as a team. While they enter new patient info. into the computer, I obtain vital signs, measure wounds, take photos of wounds and do wound care ordered by the MD. RNs and LPNs should learn to work together as a team. At the end of the day it's all about the best possible outcomes for the patient, not who is more competent than the other because of some letters behind a name.
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    Quote from tjmiller
    See how typing can change the meaning of things... Yes, venting. Yes, I have been told 2 times in one week that I am not a nurse in one way or the other. I had just let go the last time someone said it to me. That was about a month ago. I honestly think the issue seeps from me and people pick up on that.
    You said it yourself right there. The issue steeps from you. I hear so many LPNs complain about RNs making them feel inferior. It is YOUR inferiority complex. I'm proud to be an RN and I'm not going to let LPNs make me feel guilty because I continued my education. I made that mistake with my firsy job. LPNs had a stick up their butt about the RNs. They bullied me into crying my eyes out and quitting. So LPNs have the power to make RNs feel like crap too. People say ignorant things because I "only" have an associate's. I KNOW I am just as good a nurse as a BSN.
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    Quote from SaoirseRN
    We are all "Ns", as I like to say. Different Ns with different scopes of practice, but I'm an N and you're an N and that's the truth no matter what others might say. We have a supervisor who constantly says "Nurses and LPNs" and I always correct her (pleasantly of course) "You mean RNs and LPNs..?"
    Perfectly worded. We're all nurses with different scopes of practice. Just because I know EKGs and some other critical care concepts does NOT mean my nursing judgement is better or that I apply the nursing process more efficiently than LPNs. Just try to understand that your emotions about it are within your control. Just please don't do what a bunch of LPNs did to me because of their complexes and bully anyone. The nurse I admired most at my first job was an LPN but she turned on me in an instant. I wish I never let anyone make me feel as low as many of the LPNs did.
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    Quote from Meriwhen


    Agreed.

    One thing I have noticed--and this in NO WAY excuses or justifies LPN/LVN bashing--but a lot of LVNs are quick to belittle themselves or put themselves down. Lord knows how many times I've heard LVNs say they're "just" a LVN or consider themselves inferior to RNs when they are not.

    Again, it doesn't justify rudeness. But if LVNs look/comment so poorly upon themselves, it doesn't exactly encourage others to speak up otherwise.

    So in addition to discouraging it among non-LVNs, discourage that attitude among other LVNs as well: be proud of what you do and don't think yourself any less of a nurse because your title is somewhat different.
    The entire profession puts themselves down! I can't tell you how many times I have heard I'm "only" a CNA,LPN,ADN. I get sick and tired of hearing this.
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    A friend of mine, and fellow LPN, was looking into the bridge program to get her RN. Upon hearing this, a coworker of hers asked if she'd be a "real nurse" then. It's not LPNs putting ourselves down, it's so many people constantly saying that LPNs aren't as good as RNs or as worthy. So many employers only hire RNs so they can get "magnet" status--for nursing excellence. That right there says they don't think LPNs can contribute to nursing excellence. Heck, my own mom keeps telling me to get my RN so I can have better jobs. I've told her, repeatedly, that I'm not going to now because I work in doctor's offices so I can be home evenings, weekends, and holidays with my husband and kids. RNs don't have the opportunities in offices like LPNs do and I don't want to get my RN and not be able to use it. When my kids are grown then I'll go for it, but not right now. That makes her mad.
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    I do not feel inferior to RN's , I feel unappreciated. I tend to think it is the RN's and CNA's who may feel a bit obsolete while I'm( or a few other LPN's) on the floor that like to "throw" up the fact that I am just a LPN. As far as RN's not being able to work in clinics, I must be in a great area for nursing. The clinic I work at PRN is staffed with RN,LPN, and CMA. I also know a few BSN's who work the floor at the clinics as well. My mom is now a retired LPN of over 30 years, she has shared with me the same scenarios. She recalls the day a Dr called to speak to a nurse, got the RN on duty, and specifically told her he wanted to speak to my mom, who was, remember, just a LPN. The docs that were around then, still talk about my mom and how she always knew what was going on. I now work with RN'S and LPN's who my mom helped train. Some of the people she took care of still call her, write her, and their families as well. I hope I can be a great nurse like she was!
    Last edit by tjmiller on Jan 18, '13
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