New LPN and no jobs available. - page 2

I live in Tulsa and just received my license 2 weeks ago. The hospitals around here are not hiring LPNs but they were when I started school. I'm a nurse tech at my hospital and human resources wants... Read More

  1. by   ladybay
    Quote from rjflyn
    Ah theres a nursing shortage---------- Move !!!
    Well, obviously the "nursing shortage" doesn't need the help of LPN's. If you would have paid attention and had read my original post in its entirety, I said moving is not possible at this time. Your sarcastic and insensitive remarks are of no help, are not needed, and best to be kept to yourself.

    ladybay
  2. by   smk1
    ladybay maybe try looking in the phone book and calling all of the SNFs even if they don't have ads in the paper, also send a resume to all of the human resource departments of all the places that you would like to work and see what happens. Can't hurt!
  3. by   ladybay
    Quote from smkoepke
    ladybay maybe try looking in the phone book and calling all of the SNFs even if they don't have ads in the paper, also send a resume to all of the human resource departments of all the places that you would like to work and see what happens. Can't hurt!
    Will do, thanks.

    ladybay
  4. by   Truly_Blessed
    Quote from rjflyn
    Ah theres a nursing shortage---------- Move !!!
    Hmmm...moving isn't an option for everybody. duh.
  5. by   SharkLPN
    Geez, I've never heard of an acute care facilty not wanting an LPN on staff. If nothing else, we lift some of the pt care burden off the RNs, and cost the facilities less.

    Have you looked into any long-term acute care hospitals? There are only two I know of in my area, SemperCare and Select Medical. I'm not sure if they have any facilities in OK, but it's worth a shot. These companies usually rent out space from exisiting hospitals and basically run a hospital for pts who would be admitted longer than medicare/medicaid or insurance will cover.

    Good luck to you! I'd be at wits end after earning my license and have this happen!
  6. by   thatldo
    I know of 3 recent LPN grads with no exp who are working at St Francis & at Southcrest Hosp in med-surge in Tulsa.
  7. by   RN-PA
    Quote from SharkLPN
    Geez, I've never heard of an acute care facilty not wanting an LPN on staff. If nothing else, we lift some of the pt care burden off the RNs, and cost the facilities less.
    My hospital has stopped hiring LPN's, but there are a good number of LPN's working on our med-surg floor who are great co-workers and nurses, and some have been there for years. When they ever leave/retire, they will be replaced with RN's.The problem has been that the hospital administration limits what LPN's can do. So, in addition to the RN's assignment, we have to frequently do things the LPN isn't permitted to do. As mentioned in another thread, they can't do admissions, can't have a patient with continuous epidural or PCA, can't call doctors for orders, can't initiate Heparin drips, hang TPN or blood, or give IV push meds.

    My hospital is in the process of trying to get a program in place whereby the LPN's can become RN's by taking classes at the hospital. Not sure how they're planning to do this, though, and whether the hospital will be paying for part of the training or what.
  8. by   JHUBRAIN
    Our Hospital in OKC also stopped hiring LPNs due to fact that the LPNs can not perfrom Phyiscal Assessments on their own (must have an RN check over their assessments) It turned out to be double work for the RNs (not to mention upsetting many LPNs). We just found out about the LPNs and assessment after taking a hit about it from the board. :angryfire It seems in a hospital setting that the LPNs can only contribute to the assesment and it must be checked off by the RN (also LPNs can not do the Inital Assessment at all). These finding are in the LPN state guidlines and we missed it as our Lpns were doing the assessments on the floor, as I said we took a hit on that and so are other hospital in Oklahoma. I hope you are able to find your spot.
    God Bless all the nurses and patients - JHUBRAIN





    Quote from ladybay
    I live in Tulsa and just received my license 2 weeks ago. The hospitals around here are not hiring LPNs but they were when I started school. I'm a nurse tech at my hospital and human resources wants to move towards an all RN staff, thanks to Wellsprings coming in and revamping hospital policies. :angryfire I even make more money (with shift diff) than a new grad LPN at my hospital. I want to leave my job sooo bad. The only hospital that did have a position was for a prn wound care nurse. I find it sad to resort to changing dressings after all I've learned in school. Where is a newbie to get some hospital experience? I even contacted various places like home health, hospices, dialysis and agency, nothing. Agencies require 6-12 months med-surg experience. I'd hate to lose those hard earned nursing skills by going to a nursing home. Before I can even think of RN school, I need to start working as a nurse, get some skills and make decent money first. I want to utilize some critical nursing skills like med-surg but if no one gives me a chance, what can I do? I can't move out of state with a house and husband (who has a couple of surgeries pending). its frustrating.

    ladybay
  9. by   rjflyn
    I would like to appologize to Ladybay, I missed the part in your original post about not being able to move, sorry. Keep your chin up something will come along, be sure you try Dr offices and clinics most around here thats all they employ with the exception typically of one RN who runs the office.
    Rj
  10. by   FROGGYLEGS
    Quote from ladybay
    I said that particular wound care nurse position was prn. Plus I said I need to earn a living. I want to utilize my skills like assessments, injections, meds, nursing dx, IV monitors, tube feedings, blood draws and IV's, utilizing a stethoscope, becoming familiar with various medical situations, you know nurse stuff. Med-surg, ER or ICU would be ideal for me. If wound care is more than changing dressings, then educate me. I'm going from what the HR lady said after I asked her what kind of job it was. Even so, wound care is not for me!!

    ladybay

    Okay. It was only a suggestion. If the people in human resources aren't nurses, I wouldn't quite trust their expert opinion on what exactly a particular job entailed. It didn't occur to me that you didn't want the wound job because it was PRN. I still say wound care is more than just changing dressings. Research it a bit and I think you'll see that, but if it isn't what you want then it isn't what you want.

    Good luck in finding your ideal position.
  11. by   ladybay
    rjflyn, apology accepted.

    thatido,
    I have heard about new LPN's getting hired/transfered into that position because the hospital sponsored and paid for their education. Since they already work at that facility, they get first picks at jobs versus me, an outsider. I don't know what's the deal with SouthCrest. There was a big healthfair about a week ago with 12 or so companies recruiting. I inquired at 90% of the companies including all the area hospitals. The SouthCrest recruiters said no openings for LPN's as well as several other hospitals. Go figure. :uhoh21:

    Most of the posters on this thread have given good, positive ideas. I appreciate it and will follow through. After procrastinating on nursing school for 21 years, I got the guts to follow my dreams. I have such a calling and compassion in this area of medicine and if I were only given a chance, I know I can give the best care within my scope of practice. One thing I've come to learn even though I haven't begun my nursing career as of yet is, it doesn't pay to bash, insult or think of oneself superior over their co-workers or peers. Perhaps that same individual who you've just thumbed your nose at could at some point in time take care of YOUR friend or loved ones or YOU. I'm talking from experience. I was the tech, she was the RN with a superiority complex. She was hospitalized very recently in great pain and guess who helped to care for her with no malice or indignation? You got it. In speaking for myself I knew MY conscious is clear. Thanks guys and stay prayerful.

    ladybay
  12. by   SharkLPN
    Yikes! I'm in Ohio, and at my facility, I perform assessments, med pass (excluding IV), etc on 6-7 pts, always under the wing of an RN, but I'm never co-signed or rechecked, unless I've been floated to another unit and the RN is not comfortable letting a 'stranger' assess their pts (and I'm NOT offended if they do this. quite the opposite - it tells me they give a damn about that pt, and don't just take my word for it that every pt is OK). I've never heard otherwise, but I'll check the states opinion on my LPN assessment just in case. Most of my work buddies are RNs, and I'd hate for them to take a fall over me.

    Another acute care hospital in town trains LPNs on IV therapy (insertion, meds, etc), but mine won't. So far, I'm content to not have the additional headache and responsibility, but it's probably a matter of time before I'll be doing it as well.

    Its a shame that in a nursing crisis, too many bright lights in this field are dimmed over pedigree. I'm not saying I'm better than an RN, no. But my RNs always appreciate the safety net of an extra set of competent eyes watching over the pts. And until you have enough competent RNs available to safely staff a unit, what other choice is there but RN/LPN teams?

    Ladybay, stick with your search. Even if you don't initially start where you want to, the opportunity really is there. I'd actually love a wound care job (though not prn - too many bills and no guarantee of hours!), but I've stuck myself in med for the experience and would, funny enough, miss some of the weirder aspects of working a gen med floor.
  13. by   tiona
    The same thing is happening in my area. Sacramento CA hospitals aren't hiring LVN's. And, like you they were actively recruiting us in 1st semester. I'm currently working in LTC. I hope the tides change because the few hospitals which do hire us require at least 1 year acute experience and the 1100 hours of clinical that I had at school doesn't count. I'm managing LTC ok, but it is more work than is humanly possible!

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