LPN-RN partnership in nursing-a gentle reminder - page 6

A Gentle Reminder..... Hello RN, it's me LPN. (Not JLPN..JUST an LPN.) Don't look behind you, I'm not there. Don't look down, I'm not there either. Look beside you, that's where I am. We're on... Read More

  1. by   Truly_Blessed
    Oh Wow! I really like this. I am glad I ran across it. I am saving this for future reference
  2. by   NursesRmofun
    Quote from leesonlpn
    A Gentle Reminder.....


    Hello RN, it's me LPN. (Not JLPN..JUST an LPN.) Don't look behind you, I'm not there. Don't look down, I'm not there either. Look beside you, that's where I am.
    We're on the same team. I help you, you help me, and together we get it done. Vitals need to be taken.If I'm busy, and you have time,you can take them. Putting a patient on a commode is not strictly an LPN duty, nor an RN duty - it is a nursing duty. Emptying commodes is a nursing duty. Please do not leave them in the room, hallway, or service room for me to do. Stool gatherer, urine collector, sputum catcher, yes I am, as you are. If you don't know which container, ask me, and I'll show you. There will be things I'll want to ask you too. Don't roll your eyes, or become impatient with me. No one knows everything. I have things I must get done too. My nursing duties are just as important as yours. I have things to chart, assessments to do. I have my own governing body and standards of practice, to which I hold myself accountable.. Please don't ask me to do something just because you'd rather not do it yourself. That's not what LPN's are for. Besides, it's not fair. I love nursing and I hope you do too. When LPN's and RN's work together it's a wonderful nursing partnership, and a very productive team. So come and work with me, .........
    Partner.

    That was very nice! But I just noticed it is literally years old! Still nice though! LOL
    Last edit by NursesRmofun on Jun 2, '04 : Reason: adding text
  3. by   Tentorio2002
    Mito,
    Come work with us when (or if) you graduate. We'll set you straight. That is, if the SICU at Vanderbilt isn't too below you. Who knows? We might have a thing or two to teach you. The most effective way to prevent VAP (that's vent associated pneumonia)? What exactly is a BI-VAD and how does it work? How to effectively control a pt's volume while on CVVHD, bearing in mind the need for a satisfactory mean arterial pressure? Maybe we could teach you how to prime and ready a rapid volume infusor for a pt whose chest is being opened before your eyes with a pressure of 30....but then again,

    I'm just a CNT and a student, couldn't possibly have anyting to teach you...my bad.

    good luck
  4. by   smjlpn
    The intitials behind your name mean nothing if you don't have what it takes and the right attitude for the job. I have been an LPN for 4 years now and it is amazing what you learn everyday. Not just about nursing but about human nature. Yes I will continue for my RN, eventually I hope to teach. But I am very proud to be an LPN and a nurse. I have seen good and bad nurses regardless of what rank they have behind their name. Again it's all in what you do with it. My current supervisor (RN) is a very nice person who doesn't have a clue what to do. I spend my days doing my work and part of the RNs work and trying to make sure nothing gets screwed up! Talking to management does no good. They could care less they have a body in the position, and I guess thats what counts.
  5. by   mittienLPN
    I've been a nurse for 26 yrs. and it doesn't matter what you do you will always work with someone somewhere who thinks because you're a lpn that makes you brain dead or beneath them. I've worked in every field of nursing that i could possibly work in for that very reason,i've learned knowledge is everything. The thing is you are fighting a loosing battle,i've been there and done that. If you respect yourself and know who you are then it will work out. I am now working for a home health agency with doctors that i have worked with at some time or other for over 20 yrs.,they know me,to them i'm a nurse and that's all that matters. Because i respect them and they respect me in return. The way I look at it RN be damned, a nurse is a nurse is a nurse if you know what you're doing,
    just because they have RN behind their name does not mean they were given additions to the brain,it just means they make more money. I've been asked a million times why i haven't become an RN,my answer is this the money would be nice,but i never want to forget who i am and where i come from.
    mittienlpn
  6. by   NursesRmofun
    Quote from mittienLPN
    I've been a nurse for 26 yrs. and it doesn't matter what you do you will always work with someone somewhere who thinks because you're a lpn that makes you brain dead or beneath them. I've worked in every field of nursing that i could possibly work in for that very reason,i've learned knowledge is everything. The thing is you are fighting a loosing battle,i've been there and done that. If you respect yourself and know who you are then it will work out. I am now working for a home health agency with doctors that i have worked with at some time or other for over 20 yrs.,they know me,to them i'm a nurse and that's all that matters. Because i respect them and they respect me in return. The way I look at it RN be damned, a nurse is a nurse is a nurse if you know what you're doing,
    just because they have RN behind their name does not mean they were given additions to the brain,it just means they make more money. I've been asked a million times why i haven't become an RN,my answer is this the money would be nice,but i never want to forget who i am and where i come from.
    mittienlpn
    Believe me,~ no offense, but I know who I am and where I came from. Signed, previous LPN, now RN, Liza.
  7. by   mittienLPN
    Quote from NursesRmofun
    Believe me,~ no offense, but I know who I am and where I came from. Signed, previous LPN, now RN, Liza.
    But you must have gotten some of the treatment when you were JLPN,
    But I do think we can all work together and get along doing it. I work with a wonderful RN now that I've worked with off and on for over 20yrs and we do very well together because of the grown respect we have for each other.
  8. by   nurseunderwater
    just thought i would pop in and check this out.....now leaving. seems we wind up bantering about the same ol' same ol'. have fun.

    Kate
  9. by   Dixiedi
    Quote from nurse-lou
    Leesonlpn,

    What you posted was very well put! I am an RN, but have worked with LPN's over the course of my 4 year career. Most were good but a few had a problem with us RN's. I am sure that you get "dumped" on a lot. I have never considered myself above empying a bedpan or a urinal. The last hospital I worked at made the RN's cover the LPN's assignment. So if I had 6 pt's of my own and had to cover 2 of the LPN's 6 pts then I actually had 8 patients that I was responsible for. I was required to assess the LPN's pt's that I was assigned to cover then I had to co-sign the LPN's charting and if there was a problem that warranted calling the Doctor I had to do that as well. In PA, LPN's are not allowed to accept phone orders from Doctors. Not complaining here just explaining. Now I don't work side by side with any LPNs. I learned a lot from some of the ones that I used to work with and what you posted was very well put!

    Kelly
    Wow! I can't believe you had to assess your LPNs pts! And Co-sign her charting! Is your hospital stuck in the dark ages?! WOW! Never heard of such a thing!
  10. by   LPN4Life
    Quote from Mito
    I think it would be dishonest of me to say I regard LPN's as the same as RN's when it is quite clear that I don't. However, I am responding to this post as this is my point of view and yes I'm sure it is very different from yours.

    I am not concerned with how an MD or a nurse with more education treats me. I will be doing my job regardless of their attitude because their assessment of abilities doesn't mean a thing to me. If, however, they have a legitimate concern over my nursing care then I will deal with that when it happens.

    Let us hope that my job performance doesn't have to reley on one of these compassionate LPN's to save the day.

    Mito
    I will never forget what my nursing instructor said one day:
    Nursing is 10% knowledge and 90% common sense....that is why some LPN's feel they are more knowledgeable than some RN's we run across.

    Believe me, you can reley on this compassionate LPN on any given day to save the day. Confidence comes from knowledge, and knowledge coupled with common sense makes for a darn good nurse, LPN or RN.
  11. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from LPN4Life
    ....Nursing is 10% knowledge and 90% common sense.....

    I certainly disagree- signed former CNA, then LPN, now RN.
  12. by   LPN4Life
    Quote from Hellllllo Nurse
    I certainly disagree- signed former CNA, then LPN, now RN.
    Well as an LPN that is an ADON to a 160 bed facility, does MDS's careplans, staffing, nursing supply, infection control, behavior management, among other numerous tasks, and have been told by nursing consultants that my grasp on the RAI process is far better than some RN's they have worked with, I'd say it applies in my personal situation.

    Signed former Wal-mart cashier, bath aide, CNA, LPN/ADON
  13. by   UCLARN
    Now granting I don't agree with what Mito said and her behavior is clearly arrogant, I don't agree with you have said either. She hasn't had any real life nursing experiences yet, so her attitude will change once those nurses get a hand at her. As for you, how shameful for a charge nurse to say such things. Your favorite thing to do to uppity RN's is to basically teach them a lesson by giving them total patient care while others don't have it as bad. I'm surprised no one has written you up or filed a complaint. Why not counsel them instead of that type of childish behavior. They are adults, just like you are, and should be treated as such!

    Quote from jaelle
    Hey Brownie,

    I try to be a tolerant and kind member of any staff I'm a part of, but as a charge nurse my favorite thing to do to uppity RN's whether they are new grads or experienced nurses was to let them take total patient care until they adjusted their attitude. If an RN can't be a be a nurse...but only an RN, only a title, then they need some time in the trenches. If it burns them out before they learn their lesson....tough. Most of the nurses I've worked with would rather work short-staffed than work with a trouble-maker. Mito will find out that there is a vast gulf between clinicals and being on the floor. Mito will also learn that smart people gather knowlege from wherever they can. Mito obviously doesn't understand that it takes more than just an RN to give excellent health care. I've noticed that people who start in the medical profession as CNA's have one of two attitudes. They either remember where they came from....and treat ALL staff with respect....or they try to get even for all the disrespect they were shown when they were CNA's by being disrespectful to others. On the average those with the second attitude make really crappy nurses.
    It also gives us a reminder as nurses. Be kind to your CNA's. They may someday embarrass you to death when they become nurses and ask exactly like you have taught them to act.

    A nurse is a... nurse is a... nurse ia a... nurse is a... nurse is a... nurse.

    I hope that your friend does well with her internship here in the States. One of the best new grads I EVER worked with came from Canada. Unfortunately we lost her to a better hospital in Arizona.


    Ann

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