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No. 10
Old May 20, 2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by elkpark View Post
For what it's worth, my personal experience has been that it's the LPNs who haven't returned to school who think this is a reasonable idea. All the RNs I've known who started out as LPNs and went back to school say they never realized until they went back to school how much difference there really was between LPNs and RNs.

Personally, I would never support such a proposal.
I have had college A&P, Chemistry and Microbiology. I know that LPNs get an overview of these subjects, not the in depth versions that RNs get because I have taken them. But they are now out of date and would have to be retaken. My English and Sociology and Psychology may be accepted, if the school feels the curriculum is comparitive. Ask any person who has tried to transfer college credits from one school to the other and you will see how difficult it is. For Nursing or whatever. I keep up to date and research diseases and medications on an ongoing basis. I even do that for things that are out of my scope like TPN. I want to know how things work and how they effect my patients. I don't think I am approaching this subject from an uneducated standpoint. I can see why some would be reluctant to support this idea, however.
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No. 11
from RN34TX
Old May 20, 2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by withasmilelpn View Post
I have had college A&P, Chemistry and Microbiology. I know that LPNs get an overview of these subjects, not the in depth versions that RNs get because I have taken them. But they are now out of date and would have to be retaken. My English and Sociology and Psychology may be accepted, if the school feels the curriculum is comparitive. Ask any person who has tried to transfer college credits from one school to the other and you will see how difficult it is. For Nursing or whatever.
Excelsior does not have a time limit on transferring credits for the general education component of their ADN program. This is plainly stated on p.29 of the current school of nursing college catalog. So your A&P, micro, and chemistry in addition to your other general ed classes would transfer as long as they were obtained from a regionally accredited college no matter when they were taken.

Yes I agree that some schools make it very difficult to transfer credits. I rejected an offer to get my BSN from a school that wanted me to re-take chemistry from my ADN program because they were splitting hairs over "General Chemistry 101" vs. "Principles of Chemistry I" or something along those lines. Excelsior is not one of those schools.

Make sure your state board or board of any state where you may want to someday live/work accepts Excelsior for RN licensure. If so, then check it out as an option for you. It worked for me.
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No. 12
from Jules A
Old May 20, 2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by withasmilelpn View Post
I have had college A&P, Chemistry and Microbiology. I know that LPNs get an overview of these subjects, not the in depth versions that RNs get because I have taken them. But they are now out of date and would have to be retaken. My English and Sociology and Psychology may be accepted, if the school feels the curriculum is comparitive. Ask any person who has tried to transfer college credits from one school to the other and you will see how difficult it is. For Nursing or whatever. I keep up to date and research diseases and medications on an ongoing basis. I even do that for things that are out of my scope like TPN. I want to know how things work and how they effect my patients. I don't think I am approaching this subject from an uneducated standpoint. I can see why some would be reluctant to support this idea, however.
As a LPN I didn't do an overview of the pre-reqs, they were exactly the same classes as the RN students took so they transferred easily. Please investigate this if you are interested because I was accepted into 3 bridge programs with a 20+ year old A&P1. Since I applied to several schools I did end up doing several CLEPs due to the slightly different requirements of each program but at $60 a pop, no big deal. Where there is a will, there is a way.
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No. 13
Old May 20, 2008, 03:25 PM

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I am not very supportive of the idea of LPNs challenging the RN boards. If the LPN designation was the exact smae thing as the RN, then both levels of nurses would have identical scopes of practices and earn the exact same amount of money.

I fully realize that if I wish to be paid like an RN, I must attend school to become an RN. There's no shortcuts involved in the matter.
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No. 14
from Ogopogo
Old May 21, 2008, 12:32 AM

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I will be finished my LPN course in August and I can already say there is NO WAY I would want to challenge the RN exam. I don't have the education or skills that an RN does.

One day I may go back to school to become an RN. Until then, I'll be happy being a great LPN
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No. 15
Old May 21, 2008, 04:12 AM

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I must agree with the majority of posters. I graduated from an LPN-RN bridge program last year and while I didn't learn anything really new in terms of skills, it helped to solidify theory, rationales, and appropriate delegation. My school did not accept my A&P and microbiology from some years back, but that didn't concern me. I was willing to take the courses over because I feel that after so many years, you probably do need the review. Plus, I like science anyway, esp. micro. They did, however, accept my english, sociology, and psychology though, thank goodness.

If there is not an accelerated program in your area, Excelsior may be the best route for you, if it is accepted by your BON. That is, if you do well in a self-study program. I looked into it and decided that it was best for me to be in a classroom.
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No. 16
from Woodenpug
Old May 21, 2008, 04:34 AM

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I was an LVN for longer than I have been an RN. RN is very different, however, I do not feel that I benefited from the school. (except for my formal writing and public speaking)

Learning on the job, without a safety net, is what I have found to be most beneficial.

California allows for a 30 unit option for LVN to RN. That is inclusive of pre-requirements. The schools have arranged to make this option, for all practical purposes, non-existent.

I would support the petition.
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No. 17
Old May 21, 2008, 04:49 AM

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I agree w/Blue Ridge Home RN. I know many great LPN's & great RN's but the education is different. Best of luck to the OP.
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No. 18
Old May 21, 2008, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by withasmilelpn View Post
Found from a blog in Advance for LPNs, a petition to allow LPNs with experience to sit for their RN boards. I would love to do that. What does everyone else think? Here is the link:


http://www.petitiononline.com/lps2t/petition.html
Personally I am all for it. At the school I would go to for my RN, if I were going, the LPNs and RNs all take the SAME prereqs. There is a semester long class on Nursing theory, I would be willing to take that. And perhaps a course in procedures that I have not done (removing Picc lines, accessing ports, etc.).

However, having worked in states where the scope of practice between your average LPN and your average RN is extremely similar, (LPNs being able to perform probably 90% of the duties of an average floor RN), I feel very confident that with my experience, that I could pass NCLEX-RN.

Maybe I'm overconfident, but I truthfully don't think so. I know many times I have instructed RNs on what or how or why to do X task or procedure, or why I think Y symptom points to Z disease process.
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No. 19
from Jules A
Old May 21, 2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KaroSnowQueen View Post
Personally I am all for it. At the school I would go to for my RN, if I were going, the LPNs and RNs all take the SAME prereqs. There is a semester long class on Nursing theory, I would be willing to take that. And perhaps a course in procedures that I have not done (removing Picc lines, accessing ports, etc.).

However, having worked in states where the scope of practice between your average LPN and your average RN is extremely similar, (LPNs being able to perform probably 90% of the duties of an average floor RN), I feel very confident that with my experience, that I could pass NCLEX-RN.

Maybe I'm overconfident, but I truthfully don't think so. I know many times I have instructed RNs on what or how or why to do X task or procedure, or why I think Y symptom points to Z disease process.

You make great points esepcially about LPNs doing 90% of what RNs do and fwiw I'm pretty sure that I could have passed the NCLEX RN with a good review book before I ever set foot in a nursing class however that wouldn't have made me a safe or competent nurse. With the bridge program I really have learned more about assessing, more indepth knowledge about the different disease processes and medications etc. so in that respect I do feel that some sort of additional education should be required.
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